Game Development

Almo

00:01

@DMGregory my first solution just happened to be really low on cost

DMGregory

Neatly done. :)

DukeZhou

These combine into 8 "complex stability states": superstability, semistability, mendaxastability, demistability, contrastability, nonstability, antistability, khaotictivity, based on a matrix: TTT, TTF, TFT, TFF, FTT, FTF, FFT, FFF, where these are T/F for stability, epistability and metastability

also regions can be "strongly" or "weakly" stable

All of these terms do definitely integrate existing definitions, especially the compound world. the use of strength and weakness reflect the combinatorial game theory usages.

nwp

No TFF?

wait, you got that

DukeZhou

@nwp so I think you are correct in your assertion--even "Khaotictivity" is a mutation of an existing word/usage

nwp

but it should still be 9

DMGregory

00:05

2 options per field to the power of 3 fields would be 8, no?

DukeZhou

^^^

nwp

Hmm true. Somehow I was thinking 3*3.

DMGregory

3^2 instead of 2^3?

nwp

I should go sleep, it's way past my bed time.

DukeZhou

Easy way to break it down is stability goes TTTTFFFF, epistability goes TTFFTTFF, and metastability goes TFTFTFTF

But the hierarchy I present may not be definitive, and hopefully an NN will be able to determine which form or the hierarchy is optimum in which circumstances.

@nwp nighty night!

@DMGregory I know that the max unique connections for any set of points is n(n-1)/2

Stephane Hockenhull

00:08

I wanna play Dwarf Fortress but the version from a parallel universe where the UI is more enjoyable than underwears made of P12 grit sandpaper.

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DukeZhou

I probably need to hunt down the formula combining n elements ;)

2^3 is correct in this case, but why?

@StephaneHockenhull lol

Tetris was originally text-based, so maybe there's hope for Dwarf Fortress

Stephane Hockenhull

I don't mind the text for tiles, After 15 mins I can see what everything is. It's the darn UI navigation that kills it for me. Doesn't take long in game that you spend time going in and out through 6 menus-deep diving back-and-forth to manage production.

DMGregory

@StephaneHockenhull You get used to it surprisingly quickly. I have to actively stay away from that game as I have a habit of losing weeks at a time to it. XD

Must...optimize!

Stephane Hockenhull

I want a multi-window version so I can quick-tab between management screens.

I can play for about a day before the UI navigations kills the mood for me.

DukeZhou

00:24

@DMGregory you sound like me. I've been on a self-imposed game playing mortatorium for months now

My dream is to re-achieve gentleman of leisure status, and spend my golden years in massively multiplayer environments like Eve and GTA online.

Hopefully they'll get the direct-to-brain interface worked out by then

and some sort of vat for the home so one can suspend one's body in a bio-gel, with oxygen and nutrients supplied intravenously

Stephane Hockenhull

Related to current topic ^^ :D

Almo

hahah I like that cartoon

blasted another one out with low cost

not lowest on the histogram, but definitely on the short side of the top of the bell curve

DukeZhou

That cartoon definitely describes some people I know

Almo

ok, no. it's at the center of the curve, but it is very steep to the left

so not many have gotten it in less cost

DMGregory

01:38

Had to try Surrender Flare again. ;)

Stephane Hockenhull

Oh no. Steam is having a sale again.

SHENZHEN I/O is on sale...

DMGregory

Ooooh, I've wanted to try that one.

Stephane Hockenhull

I'm somewhat disgusted that I'm getting that game.

DMGregory

02:04

Why's that? It looks like fun. :)

Stephane Hockenhull

Coz that's my @$%#$% day job :P

What better way to unwind after a day of trying to figure out why the @#$% WiFi chip crashes after 5 mins or the LED module has corrupted pixels...

Or after spending hours figuring out how to squeeze all those graphics into an ARM Cortex-M0 flash ROM MCU...

DMGregory

Fair, but there's something to be said about the tight feedback loop and clarity of success you get from game challenges, even if they parallel real-world work. The real stuff is so often more fuzzy and unclear if you're really making progress.

Almo

Shezhen is a great game

But I prefer Opus Magnum, actually. But I am good with spatial reasoning.

Stephane Hockenhull

It looks great. I'm gonna wait until it's out of early access tho.

DMGregory

02:23

It's very polished - I'd say moreso than any Zachtronics game I've played before.

So, if you're concerned the Early Access version might be incomplete or glitchy, you'd likely be pleasantly surprised.

Stephane Hockenhull

03:01

Are we having some kind of GDSE Opus Magnum competition? :D

DMGregory

03:44

Maaaayyyyybeeee....

(btw, @Almo, check out Armor Filament. I got a bit carried away.... :D )

Stephane Hockenhull

Weeeeell ... I got the game :D

DMGregory

Oooooh. :) I hope you enjoy it!

Stephane Hockenhull

playing shenzen for now. It looks like there's still some cheating going on in the leaderboards.

TIS-100 was pretty bad for that

YAS! shaved 1 opcode :D

cut power usage too

DMGregory

04:01

Sweet! :D

Stephane Hockenhull

04:17

HAHAHA of course some of the instructions are only in Chinese

aw HCF is not a valid opcode

DMGregory

Disappointing. :(

What's the Chinese translation? Maybe that one works.

Stephane Hockenhull

04:34

I dunno. I can barely figure out what shops are :P

Bálint

08:13

Shenzen.IO is very nice

I would've added a dozen of secret instructions though

Bálint

08:31

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A: Casting a Matrix4 class to float*

No, it doesn't, but you can simply pass the array in the object.

Any ideas what I could add?

nwp