Game Development

Almo

19:00

hey still considering what game to make next

I have a few weird concepts floating around

like an MMO PvE RTS clicker game

jgallant

floating where?

oh nice.

Almo

maybe clixxor mobile

maybe the astroids game

just can't decide

I don't do that unfinished project thing, so I take a long time to determine what I will start

ok maybe I prototype the asteroids thing, get some different ships in there, and see what people think

that might be a few weeks to get up and running

so on mac osx 10.10, a connected Windows machine has that icon. Is that a blue screen of death?

it's certainly an ancient 4:3 CRT

user4704

Yes.

Almo

hahah :D

user4704

Been in there a while I think.

Almo

19:05

:)

MickLH

@Almo my macs show that icon for all windows networks, even if they don't contain an actual windows computer

Almo

oh hehehe

user4704

10.5 apparently: anildash.com/2007/10/smug-ugly.html

user4704

Triggers for any Samba share basically

user4704

(so amusingly can trigger for a Mac hosting one)

MickLH

19:13

@SevenSidedDie I just thought you should know that I'm not like you in this way, and so you may be at risk of making incorrect inferences about my sentiments if you guess at them without asking me. I tend to think deeper than is expected for a given statement.

Almo

@JoshPetrie heheh :)

SevenSidedDie

@MickLH Wait, you summoned mod attention back to this room just to say that you're not responsible for writing what you mean and meaning what you write? Man, that's too bad for you.

MickLH

Excuse me?

It's not clear what you're trying to convey by that, but I appreciate your concern?

I after all never wrote anything even remotely related to who I view as a father figure.

SevenSidedDie

@MickLH The onus for not breaking the rules via objectively observable data (messages) is on the account holder. So, get on that. Whatever your intentions are aren't relevant.

Mithrandir

2 days ago, by Mithrandir

No one doubts your intentions. But it's your actions that have ramifications.

MickLH

19:16

Where did intentions come into play? We moved on from that quite a while ago.

I was simply helping you understand that your method of inference may have been faulty. It is clear to me that nobody has involved emotions related to a father figure in this discussion.

I thought maybe you should know that.

jgallant

I think I'm a father figure to you Mick

You are like my son that I never had

Almo

Mick I know you're smart enough to know what the mods want you to do. How about just do it and not argue about it. Arguing with mods never ends well, and I'd rather you be able to stick around because you're really genuinely helpful to people with some tricky problems.

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SevenSidedDie

@MickLH We're not going to ask what your sentiments are, nor are we bothering to infer them. The rules aren't concerned with intentions, just what you write.

MickLH

@Almo The point of the fun here is that I'm not arguing :P

doppelgreener

@MickLH We all know what's going on here, and this is enough of this.

SevenSidedDie

19:19

:37145634 Considering the notes on your account, maybe take up a different hobby than jousting with mods. Maybe… gamedev or something constructive. :)

jgallant

what do you think of this?

user92578

HAHAHAHAHA

doppelgreener

@jgallant he's terrifically photogenic

(now i wish LittleBigPlanet supported drawing custom faces. We could make the handsomest sackboys. Like that one.)

user92578

cant you kinda do that with the stickers?

doppelgreener

@Tyyppi_77 ... I guess you can!!

Mithrandir

19:23

One more thing that I'd like to point out: don't get so worked up over exactly what the rules say, or what we say. You should be able to follow the spirit of it.

jgallant

and from a totally 3rd party view of all this... yall need to chill

yall of you

doppelgreener

@jgallant yallaya?

jgallant

life is too short to get worked up on nonsensical nonsense

SevenSidedDie

So long as that's not invoked to defend ignoring the rules everyone signed up for, yeah. More chill would be great.

Almo

A guy was telling me about Stephen's Sausage Roll, a really hard puzzle game. He said this: "I played 2 levels last night, not my best choice to take a break from rewriting orx's internal memory allocation system" (he made an engine called ORX)

(if you're interested, it's apparently available cheaper in a humble bundle at the moment)

doppelgreener

19:31

@Almo this is... a game about cooking sausages. amazing

Almo

haha yeah

supposed to be super fucking hard, too

Mithrandir

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Almo

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Mithrandir

°°°

doppelgreener

it looks like it would be.

(for the record I am interested in this room developing less swearing, since i genuinely believe it's in our best interests in serving the professional and hobby community. but i can appreciate the emphasis. just thought i'd acknowledge what would potentially be an elephant in the room there.)

Mithrandir

19:41

user92578

I'd weigh in that cursing was not an elephant in the room two days ago...

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Mithrandir

The above link says that, basically, avoid swearing in the main room for the site.

user92578

cool!

MickLH

I won lol

fair and square :')

doppelgreener

oh, the elephant in the room i refer to us the reminders we made around cussing. i brought it up since Almo just prior did that.

MickLH

19:52

oh well, I started to refactor some code

I started a pretty tedious refactor, combining two codebases with slightly different conventions

doppelgreener

that sounds rough.

i've had the joy before of working in one codebase with two slightly different conventions.

user92578

what kinda of conventions are we talking about? naming or like architectural/program flow differences?

MickLH

The only really shitty difference is one seems to prefer shared & weak pointers while the other one uses unique pointers and references to objects that carry possibly shared and possibly deleted data

I think I actually like the weak pointer design better

But it might just be that the data is more reasonably encapsulated, I usually try to avoid smart pointers unless I actually need them

hehehehe :D

Ah there we go, I can hack the unique pointers & references codebase, now I have a hard metric to go with

I could produce inputs that create an arbitrarily long chain of objects referencing objects to share data. Insane recursive hackish crap going on in some places because of that design style

I think I've worked hard enough on this one, my job here is done! delegate!

user4704

20:11

That's enough of that.

jgallant

20:38

So I'm getting my wisdom teeth extracted tomorrow

If I don't come back it means I died

doppelgreener

@jgallant ooer. best of luck with it not hurting & the not dying part.

i hope it doesn't hurt too long. i hear that varies a lot (mine only hurt a day)

jgallant

Thanks

My ex wife, her recovery was horrible

So I'm pretty worried about it

She took like a week before getting out of bed, get head was engorged

Her head

doppelgreener

i'll kid you not, that is the worst recovery i've heard of so far

mine was that i came home, kept an ice pack close to my jaw for the evening and part of the next day (it was sore, but not painful) and then I was OK. they were a bit sensitive ongoingly, but i just had to chew carefully and avoid stuff. from what i can tell i got pretty lucky, i might've had a pretty good anaesthetist and dental surgeon.

Almo

oh no :(

I didn't like that

Lasse

20:54

I have one wisdom tooth extracted, I went there and went back to school after that, didn't hurt at all at any point

Almo

lucky

:)

Lasse

Though my breath smelled bad for a week

jgallant

Lol

Almo

haha

I had chronic bad breath... until I had pneumonia and they hit me with a dangerous antibiotic and then it was gone.

Lasse

I was scared to hell about the operation, and I still would be even though I had such a good experience as I generally have a fear of dentist

jgallant

21:00

Anti dentite?

Lasse

I also can't stand needles around me which makes it pretty hard to relax in the chair when they put in the anesthetic

doppelgreener

@Lasse i have trouble with needles too. i have a pretty good track record of fainting if i see my own blood. :l

Lasse

yeah well the blood isn't the problem, sharp things going inside me is the thing

doppelgreener

i've had a decent track record of looking away and putting an awful lot of effort into thinking about other stuff. (that's just me though.)

Lasse

it's hard to look away in the dentist chair when the needle is in front of your face going in your mouth

doppelgreener

21:04

oh. right. yeah.

ouch.

i never got that. (i had full anaesthetic, not localised.)

jgallant

Needles I don't like but meh

doppelgreener

then again i had all four out, not just the one.

jgallant

Get er done

Lasse

yeah I still have three left, I've actually twice ignored some wisdom tooth pain and it has luckily just gone away

I know it's not the best thing to do but meh, the alternative is scary too

I know getting rid of all of them would probably be the best thing to do, but I just can't push myself in to it

doppelgreener

s'alright.

in my case all four got removed because they were trapped caught behind the teeth immediately in front of them, and that was going to cause trouble later.

Almo

21:12

I only had two

the other two never formed

jgallant

21:25

Baby almo

i was dopped with that same shit for my ankle

they are going to give me these drugs that basically make me feel great about getting my teeth pulled out

The thing is... I rememgber when they fixed my ankle

this drug is hard but I can handle it

and I remember

doppelgreener

@Almo you represent evolutionary progress, good fellow.

:D

jgallant

The doctor asked me if I remember who put my ankle back

and I remembered

i remember him putting it back

and it was fine

and the doctor was like.. wtf

doppelgreener

were you not meant to be able to remember that bit?

jgallant

based on the doctor's reaction

he didn't believe me that I knew whta happened

He put my ankle back in place, and I said immediately after "Awesome! I'll walk home now"

and they all laughed

it was hilarious... that drug is pretty nuts

so it is apparently the same shit I'm gonna get tomorrow

doppelgreener

hahaha!

that sounds impressive

jgallant

21:32

it is scary really

oh you seemed to have stabbed me in the neck, haha, good job sir.

it is a drug that just makes you not give a shti about annything

Almo

@doppelgreener :D

jgallant

One can see how it would be abused

doppelgreener

@jgallant [starts writing dystopian scifi game]

jgallant

albeit useful and interesting... it is pretty scary.

Almo

I know someone who's had Valium. said it was fucking great. nothing matters. just calmness.

doppelgreener

21:34

it is scary that it exists, yeah. O_O

jgallant

i did LSD a lot

Almo

oh really

only drug that ever interested me. not tried it though

jgallant

back in the 90s

Almo

i know someone who did it as well, their description makes it sound pretty cool

jgallant

i did lsd about 50-60 times

Almo

21:35

timelapse multicolored skies and shit

jgallant

it is a very interesting drug

Almo

Must have been freaky for the guy who accidentally discovered it

WTF IS GOING ON

jgallant

did you read it?

lol

yeah he took a massive dose

biked home

Almo

:o

jgallant

yeah after 24 hours he was back to normal

he had discovered Lysergic acid diethylamide

Lysergic acid diethylamide

Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), also known as acid, is a psychedelic drug known for its psychological effects. This may include altered awareness of the surroundings, perceptions, and feelings as well as sensations and images that seem real though they are not. It is used mainly as a recreational drug and for spiritual reasons. LSD is typically either swallowed or held under the tongue. It is often sold on blotter paper, a sugar cube, or gelatin. It can also be injected. LSD is not addictive. However, adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiety, paranoia, and delusions are possible. LSD is...

history

Albert Hofmann

Albert Hofmann (11 January 1906 – 29 April 2008) was a Swiss scientist known best for being the first person to synthesize, ingest, and learn of the psychedelic effects of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD). Hofmann was also the first person to isolate, synthesize, and name the principal psychedelic mushroom compounds psilocybin and psilocin. He authored more than 100 scientific articles and numerous books, including LSD: Mein Sorgenkind (LSD: My Problem Child). In 2007, he shared first place, alongside Tim Berners-Lee, in a list of the 100 greatest living geniuses, published by The Telegraph newspaper...

Almo

21:38

neato

jgallant

lol yeah

my late friend ben and I would do this together

this one time we got this insane batch... we went through a soccer net with a hole in it

and it was like a portal to a new world

anyways.. i can say a ton more but it was pretty wild

enlightened me in a sense

we spent hours that night analyzing songs from the doors

doppelgreener

that does sound pretty wild

jgallant

microdosing is something that is really interesting to me

you take a little bit, enough to not actually hallucinate

but enough to activate your receptors

they have been researching it recently with really great results

Personally, I think everyone should try a small dose.

(at the right time)

And learn a bit about themselves and the world around them.

It makes you think.

doppelgreener

(I wonder if there's a game about the experience.)

jgallant

absolutely not

the fear, pain, love, wonder, enjoyment -- you can put that in a game

not yet anyways.

doppelgreener

21:51

yeah that'd be challenging D':

jgallant

I'm not going to do it

jgallant

22:49

Someone left a review saying my game crashes computers

Like wtf is that allowed?

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