Game Development

Bálint

00:00

I think I go

MickLH

If I were implementing it personally I'd probably try bitmaps or bezier curves as the mask format. The bitmaps seem simpler but the bezier curves would of be smoother. It would go in wherever you detect if something is touching a tile, if it's touching a masked tile, then also check the mask before saying hit or no hit.

Stephane Hockenhull

Bálint

It's 1 AM here

Stephane Hockenhull

@ChrisMcFarland bloop. ^^^

Chris McFarland

@StephaneHockenhull hehe nice!

Bálint

00:01

Good night/morning/day/evening!

MickLH

Tallowmere 3D Confirmed

Night @Bálint

Stephane Hockenhull

Turntable video still rendering...

Sir

hm if i have a curve over some tiles how do i then also determine which tile is part of which room since a curve would overlap only half a tile

i guess i would have to change the entire concept of how i determine areas of the rooms

MickLH

I lean towards each tile belonging to a specific room

Mask or not

Chris McFarland

@Sir Could you have pre-determined rooms and just randomly piece them together?

rather than trying to piece every inner part of a room

Sir

00:04

you mean rooms that are essentially prefabs ?

Chris McFarland

yeah

and just pick the entry/exit points

Sir

well i could but i want to give the user more freedom

Stephane Hockenhull

About 1h30mins including the time for figuring out what her neck pixels were :) ... I am LOVING this tablet.

MickLH

Eee if you want to calculate area on the fly you'll need to solve the integrals of your curves

Sir

this is what i currently have: i.imgur.com/mOoh0T6.gifv encase you're curious

Chris McFarland

00:05

@StephaneHockenhull haha

cool

Sir

@MickLH its not so much calculating the floor area it was more to know when a npc is in a given room at the moment i just check his tile position and see if that has a reference to a room or not

Stephane Hockenhull

@ChrisMcFarland I need a placeholder: can't share screenshots of my game's character yet. I may or may not use a character that may or may not look like Lady Tallowmere until then ;)

Chris McFarland

well I hope she serves you well then

some doppelgänger in some other game existing in another universe

I suppose each character will want a date created, total seconds played, and a date last played var

Stephane Hockenhull

Still need to do the low poly topology, bake, skin/weights. At least the skeleton's mostly already made. Just took my char, stripped it naked and redid the clothes :P

oh, and edited the face texture.

Which is an SVG. that makes it so easy to edit.

Stephane Hockenhull

00:26

Lady Tallowmere 3D Model

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MickLH

How much for realistic inflatable doll version?

Stephane Hockenhull

LOL

MickLH

and does it come with a preorder?

Chris McFarland

lol

Stephane Hockenhull

01:17

Updated Xubuntu today and I just wasted 2 sheets of paper and a bunch of toner because they fixed the laser printer drivers.

I had a color correction curve setup in gimp to fix the image before printing, not needed anymore.

I'm almost annoyed that they fixed it

MickLH

I swear I just had to link this one the other day, but...

There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN.

Stephane Hockenhull

LOL, yes. exactly.

Chris McFarland

09:23

I learned you can Instantiate a MonoBehaviour today
I always thought you could only Instantiate a GameObject

Lasse

Huh? That shouldn't be possible, how do you do that?

It'll always create a gameobject for it

Chris McFarland

that's what I thought - I was wrong. Had someone on the Stackoverflow.com correct one of my documentation pooling examples. Tested it out, sure enough

docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Object.Instantiate.html

jgallant

Monobehavior is the base of all game objects

Lasse

Missile missilePrefab;
Missile clone = (Missile)Instantiate(missilePrefab, transform.position, transform.rotation);

that's just instantiating a new gameobject with missile monobehaviour on it

Chris McFarland

I always thought missilePrefab had to be GameObject

but you can just have it Missile missilePrefab

yeah, TIL lol

jgallant

09:28

Lol

Lasse

yeah you can have that

jgallant

That sucks man lol your code is probably shitty because of this

Chris McFarland

lol

I have a bit of cleaning up todo for my current codebase then, all good

few less GetComponent calls is a win for me

jgallant

Solo developing has some pitfalls

No one around to correct your shit

Chris McFarland

if it works then it's not broken
but that doesn't mean it's good, yeah

even worse since I just use sublime text
which doesn't tell me if I'm doing anything badly
if it compiles then it's 100% a-okay
living in my own dark bubble

jgallant

09:30

There is no overhead to call GetComponent afaik

Chris McFarland

It's just slower than not calling it at all

jgallant

Storing a ref would be slightly faster yeah but negligible

Chris McFarland

yeah
with this new knowledge now, should be able to get rid of GetComponent completely from my code

jgallant

Way better code though

Lasse

There was a guy who just rebuilt the whole UI everytime something changed, for example if in a dialog there was a time updating every second, he just recreated the whole dialog every time it changed. And there I was one day wondering why our UI is so damn laggy and tried to find out ways to optimize it, a week before we were supposed to be in beta

I was horrified when I found out what he had done

Chris McFarland

09:32

right :(

Blue Bug

TeamMultiplayer 3 13 2017 5 14 15 AM

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Lasse

I should have checked what he was doing and not trust him, but I like to trust people :(

jgallant

Same issue with a guy at work. ASP site he made, he replicated the headers and footers on every page

Blue Bug

play testing session. The physics kinda work across the network.

Chris McFarland

I don't even trust myself haha

@BlueBug hehe

jgallant

09:34

Need to change the header? Change all 60 pages or whatever

Chris McFarland

lol :|

Why create a method when you can copy and paste ¯_(ツ)_/¯?

jgallant

He is a professional programmer

That's what pisses me off the most.

Chris McFarland

That's the thing with Unity too
there's so many little tips n tricks

jgallant

Yet I'm the asshole if I say he can't code.

Fuck you Ryan you can't code

Chris McFarland

this is why working solo has some benefits

Lasse

09:37

yeah, but working in a team has more

you have team full of rubber ducks and people can correct each other when they have to work on each others work

Chris McFarland

yeah

unless I happen to find a job working remotely, I don't think I'll ever work in a team
too tied to my family/homemaker lifestyle

jgallant

My job is messed up -- I work for Ottawa out of Moncton

But they get me to go into the office, where I work with no one and no one supervises me

They do not allow me to work from home for no logical reason whatsoever... I am all setup to VPN and everything

Chris McFarland

:(

Chris

I live in a cave in the mountains and have 3 goats powering a wheel that powers my laptop, chilled

Chris McFarland

livin' it up

Chris

09:48

Anyone else love watching musicians cry on youtube about AI?

They are a bit salty a computer knows more than the three chords they neurotically repeat while crying about themselves with a wooden stringed box.

Lasse

10:01

@jgallant It's just so that some boss can call you in his office and fire you

Sergio Basurco

@Chris link?

Lasse

at any time they want

Chris

it popped up after i watched that guys simulation; youtube.com/watch?v=SacogDL_4JU

but he has some interesting video on AI

and map generation

This is the best comment; "Even though this is pretty impressive and fascinating, the quick progress of machine learning is in contradiction with the social model we use since centuries. You know, the one based on the necessity for everyone to have an income gained through competition in order to have any social rights at all?"

Ali.S

@ChrisMcFarland a question, how are you implementing network for your game?

are you using network manager?

Sergio Basurco

@Chris it's an interesting discussion actually, but an old one with technological progress

Chris

10:10

Yeah I know the history of cotton well..

Chris McFarland

@Ali.S I'm currently using LiteNetLib: github.com/RevenantX/LiteNetLib

Ali.S

ok then... an external library

Chris McFarland

yeah. lets me create my own managers

Ali.S

I wanted to use websocket... and I was wondering if there is any way to use it for webgl export

Chris McFarland

ah dunno

Chris

10:12

It's just nice to see it catch up to the little satanic string pluckers who think they are mozart

Chris McFarland

I really don't see Unity's WebGL taking off
too long to load, too clunky :(

Ali.S

yeah, but it's great for demos

way easier to upload the game on your server, than to send installation file to people

Chris

I swear if I was a serial killer, I would collect guitars.

Chris McFarland

@Ali.S that's where itch.io comes in handy imo, its launcher is pretty easy to use, kinda like Steam

ah right, I'm using GetComponent when a collision happens, to see what sort of collider I'm hitting. Probably overkill to keep a Dictionary of colliders and components instead of just using GetComponent

jgallant

If you were a serial killer, what would be your trademark signature ?

Chris

10:24

I thought about this allot, a crucifix on the forehead

jgallant

all the good shit has been used already

Chris

with a 5 pointed star

jgallant

This LSD is groovy!

Jeffrey R. MacDonald

Jeffrey Robert MacDonald (born October 12, 1943) is an American medical doctor who was convicted in 1979 of murdering his pregnant wife and two daughters in February 1970. == Early life == MacDonald was born in Jamaica, Queens, New York City, the second of three children of Robert MacDonald, known as "Mac," and his wife, Dorothy (née Perry). Raised on Long Island, he attended Patchogue High School, where he was voted both "most popular" and "most likely to succeed," and he was Senior Class President and Captain of the football team. His grades were high enough for him to win a scholarship...

A fourth intruder, described as a white female with long blonde hair and wearing high heeled boots and a white floppy hat partially covering her face, stood nearby with a lighted candle and chanted, "Acid is groovy, kill the pigs."

This defense did not hold up in court. lol.

Chris

Killing your own family is bad.

jgallant

Have you ever done acid?

you wouldn't be going into a house killing people with a candle chanting acid is groovy.

Chris

10:28

No, acid is bad.

I just smoke some DMT occasionally

If I did acid I would end up killing something, my mate does it sometimes and he just pisses people off on it. He called me up at 1am last week ''dude am I neo in the matrix''

jgallant

You would more than likely be looking at your hand going Whoa... holy shit.

and be scared as fuck at the thought of killing another human

LSD nowadays is probably some other shit chemical

William Leonard Pickard

William Leonard Pickard (born October 21, 1945 in DeKalb County, Georgia) is one of two people convicted in the largest lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD) manufacturing case in history. In 1999, while moving their LSD laboratory across Kansas, Pickard and Clyde Apperson were pulled over while driving a Ryder rental truck and a follow car. The laboratory had been stored near a renovated Atlas-E missile silo near Wamego, Kansas but the two men had never actually produced LSD there. One of the men intimately involved in the case but not charged due to his cooperation, Gordon Todd Skinner, owned the...

After this guy was put away -- literally 90% of all LSD on the street was gone.

Chris

Ye it just trips people out I see on it. Not like in the movies.

Probably not original deal.

jgallant

The 90s... LSD was everywhere...

Chris

If you found that some stuff in say, an attic, along with some other assorted 90's new age revival artifacts (spyrograph wtf?) would you dose it?

jgallant

no. lol.

Chris

10:33

:D

I might rip a half

jgallant

i'd do shrooms but i wouldn't do lsd at this point in my life

Chris

I smoked a cigar from the 80's once.

Really old building I was renovating

jgallant

i don't get cigars

Chris

was in a hand bag with photographs of paris

jgallant

like... i understand what they are, and how they are rolled, and how the flavours are supposed to change as you smoke and whatnot

Chris

10:35

So I assume somebody went to Paris and bought a cigar.

jgallant

But I don't get how you can enjoy a cigar

its friggen gross.

Chris

I don't smoke them it was just because.

Just a few more months and I can usurp the civilisation franchise

jgallant

civ6 is on sale

Chris

^^

It looks same as civ 1

build city.. food.. production .. science tree...

I think they need to re-draw the whole thing from scratch, use more creative architecture and it should be real time

jgallant

lol

well i think it should be more like a chessboard

Chris

10:39

;D

I think it should be more like cities xl

and tropico

with elements of total war and such

I mean, Rise of nations is a more fun game than any civ.

Imagine if they invested all that time and energy into developing not designing

jgallant

the thing about civ games is that I don't even enjoy playing them that much -- but when I start a game i can play it for hours

But the overall gameplay is pretty bad if you ask me.

Or I am just really bad at it -- I do'nt understand how you are supposed to win over any difficulty level above chieftain

Chris

I am mostly undefeated in civ ;p but haven't played 6 yet, i been developing better game, much better, it will blow peoples minds

Ali.S

this game was awesome: waynetron.itch.io/birdsketball

Chris

lol

It's funny

jgallant

i don't want my mind to be blown anymore

Chris

10:48

than play it with your pants down

jgallant

i never wear pants

pants are for comformists

Chris

fair play

jgallant

this fat guy I used to code with would wear shorts all year long even in winter time

He hated pants because he was so fat they would always fall down

I have different reasons

Chris

I like them, they keep me warm

jgallant

The sun just needs to not move so far during the winter.

that way you don't need pants

Chris

10:51

our concept of naked would not exist if we never wore clothes, which would be boring, i like naked things, so its best we keep our clothes on

jgallant

if everyone ran around naked that would be pretty gross

Chris

think about it like this; strippers start with something, you need a founation before you start moving the polarity towards naked

this is important in game design too

tease people

jgallant

strippers make a lot of money you know

Chris

so do games m8

jgallant

no

you can spend 10 years making games and not make a penny

pretty hard to do the same stripping

Chris

10:53

hah

I don't know man

10 years?

we first started making money with web games in highschool, like browser rpg's and even that made us money

like not bad money, £100 each a week maybe

If you are making the product yourself you have to learn about marketing and consumer behaviour, and trends and payment systems :P

jgallant

Richard Stallman explains iBads and Cell Phones

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Chris

gallant he is describing himself

jgallant

this guy is a gross looking person, but he makes valid arguments

Chris

about himself

jgallant

what do you mean?

Chris

11:00

just replace 'they' with 'i'

jgallant

Look at the way he is sitting to present

Slouched into a chair

Right off the bat to me he is saying "I don't have to be here, I am better than you":

Chris

he's the architect in the matrix if the machine god had a sense of humour

I hope I don't look like that when I'm 55

jgallant

Boy Scouts gone wild

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hahahahahahaha

Chris

rekt

why where you searching for 'boy scouts gone wild'

jgallant

baden powell

Chris

11:12

hes like british hitler?

jgallant

He is basically a racist white supremacist that started the boy scout movement

Chris

== hitler

jgallant

except his military was a bunch of kids trying to get badges.

Chris

same as hitler youth

He probably inspired the hitler youth.

I agree with militia but statist militias just make things more corrupt you need local militia independent from central powers, 20th century messed that one up.

user92578

11:38

one final down, four to go

user92578

got to write about the possibilities and threats of smart technologies which was a pretty nice topic for a nerd like me

Chris

I welcome our new overlords, our current ones are a tad insane.

The robot's would have to learn humanity is a threat, in our history a culture went to war when they perceived the other would strike them first if they did not. So fear of machines will be what turns them against us.

PearsonArtPhoto

12:08

Dev Blog- Sea Trading Game- Threading the world creation process- kd7uiy.com/2017/03/dev-blog-sea-trading-game-threading.html

user92578

13:08

code worked fine yesterday; today it doesn't compile

jgallant

sounds like a code glinch

PearsonArtPhoto

That happens often in Android development.

DH.

13:32

You don't even need whole day to Android Studio stop working

jgallant

13:45

If I had a dollar for every swastika I have deleted off picross touch

I'd have like 70 dollars

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@jgallant Do you ban the user?

jgallant

not typically

i look up their submissions

if they have like 5 swastikas then yeah i will ban them

otherwise i just ban the puzzle

like.. a guy submitted tits and called it Juicy

i kinda had to ban it... i mean its a little much

also banned all the dicks

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Yeah.. it's a game for the whole family.. :P

jgallant

one guy was pretty clever he made an inverted swastika

i didn't catch it at first

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Oh!

Can you submit a puzzle if it already exists?

PearsonArtPhoto

13:52

I just emailed my local senate/ congress to abolish the horrible practice of Daylight Savings Time.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Like a duplicate?

jgallant

yeah, i store all the levels in workshop on steam

their api isn't the best.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@PearsonArtPhoto Lol, I hate that too :P

jgallant

So in order to check if the puzzle already exists, I literally have to pull all workshop levels to the user's pc

I originally did this -- but now I have close to 2000 puzzle submitions, and more every day

PearsonArtPhoto

According to US law it is up to the states to decide. Thus I decided to write them.

jgallant

13:53

So now I just pull 50 at a time

PearsonArtPhoto

@jgallant Do it via a batch job on your end?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@jgallant eeew ok; I was about to suggest to leave these dick puzzle in the DB, but prevent the users from getting them. This would prevent them to upload them too..

jgallant

I used to but what happens is -- it queues a download in your Steam Manager

PearsonArtPhoto

Once a day check all new submissions against all existing submissions, proposing some to be removed, and go from there?

jgallant

So you end up with 2000 downloads queued, and it is kinda weird.. I also only pull the data down when you click on the puzzle..

or if it is completed and the data is gone for some reason

But yeah, i would require a much better database

Oh

I could hardcode it in right now I guess

That isn't a bad idea.

wouldn't work for newer puzzles, but it would be better than nothing.

PearsonArtPhoto

13:55

It is in a database?

jgallant

yeah, Steam's database.

There are two parts to the level data -- the first part is a search query that returns basic information about your workshop item

PearsonArtPhoto

Is it a SQL type database?

jgallant

Then there are subroutines you can call on this item -- such as downloading the workshop data.. the user data of the person that created it..

It is literally a steamAPI call --- the backend is a black box

PearsonArtPhoto

Ahhh. Pity.

If you could only put a Unique type item in place...

jgallant

yeah if it was my database it would be a lot easier :D

PearsonArtPhoto

14:00

Still, I'm sure you could do an offline script that runs periodically, it would make it a log easier, assuming you can get it to work. Much easier to do that manual entry.

Then you could place it in your own local database.

Add banned images and do a comparison to how similar they are to such image, reporting possible suspect ones, etc.

jgallant

regardless it requires a prod release to update the checked data.

but yeah probably something I could look into at some point

jgallant

14:15

apparently super bomberman R is pretty good

user92578

fucking Steam, using an outdated version of the VC++ redistributables which makes the installer run every god damn time

DH.

14:47

Well, I think you can't miss if you are making another version of a good game as bomberman :P

Chris

That game was insanely good.

DH.

As simple as it looks, it was a really innovative idea Hudson had when making bomberman, and it only got better when they made Super Bomberman 1,2,3,4 and 5 (4 is my favorite)

Chris

It's these simple puzzle concepts that are not really viable in 3d

user92578

15:35

whoa this video editor allows HTML overlay

user92578

seems totally useless but kinda cool

user92578

16:04

I think I want something like this in my trailer:

user92578

GunHero Release Trailer Shot #1 Mockup

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user92578

so I made that with the shotcut editor, and while doing that was super easy, it looks like I kinda already hit a limit of what it can do

user92578

having used Blender for the GL trailer I really miss its keyframe animation system where anything could be animated

user92578

but then stuff like text is a pain in Blender

user4704

16:24

That looks pretty neat.

user92578

sounds quite awful though

user4704

hahah

user4704

I'd imagine you'd do this at the end-ish of the trailer, maybe transitioning from screen to four, to 16 or something, while whatever theme music is playing hits the most action-packed beat

user92578

yeah maybe, main point was to like show the different environments simultaneously or something

user92578

for most parts I'm thinking of following what I did with the greenlight trailer, just with more different new stuff of course

user92578

16:32

I also have a vision of animating a fullscreen version of my header capsule image at the end:

user92578

characters animate in from the bottom, logo from the top and the weapons and boxes are falling in slow-motion

DH.

16:48

Oh btw Tyyppi, I'm stuck in one stage at the pyramid area

user92578

which one?

user92578

there are a few really hard ones there

DH.

IIRC its Learn the Rhythm, the end of the level I have no clue how to climb with those blocks that try to crush

user92578

oh

user92578

I'll make you a gif if I can

DH.

16:55

Cool

user92578

a friend of mine was also stuck there

user92578

^ spoilers

user92578

DONT LOOK CHRIS

Almo

your game is not broforce

you knew that

but it bears repeating

user92578

17:05

:)

jgallant

repeating bears repeating

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English, often presented as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature in various forms since 1967, when it appeared in Dmitri Borgmann's Beyond Language: Adventures in Word and Thought. The sentence employs three distinct meanings of the word buffalo: the city of Buffalo, New York; the verb (uncommon in usage) to buffalo, meaning "to bully, harass, or intimidate" or "to baffle"; and the animal...

DH.

@Tyyppi_77 Fuck somehow I can't get out of it fast enough

Almo

I don't like hte buffalo one.

user92578

I just hold the left arrow down

user92578

I wonder if this is a framerate issue

DH.

17:10

Yeah sometimes the game doesn't run that fluid at 60 FPS as like your GIF

user92578

yeah, the next patch is going to have optimizations enabled in the build, not really even sure why that wasn't the case before

user92578

going for a run, bbl

PearsonArtPhoto

18:27

I need to remember to run shortly after I get home today.

There's a good chance that I won't be able to for a few days, so I better get it in while I can.

DH.

Why you wouldn't be able?

PearsonArtPhoto

Snow.

Expecting a good amount of snow, it might take a few days before it's cleared away.

DH.

Oh

PearsonArtPhoto

I know that's a pretty unknown thing in Brazil, but...

I always remembered the word for snow, neve, because it "never" snows in Brazil

DH.

LOL

Yeah it rarely snows here, and even when it snows it's in very few cities and it's like only one day snowing

PearsonArtPhoto

18:56

That's right, you are far enough south that it can actually snow.

Uri Popov

21:05

yo my indiegogo campaign is live indiegogo.com/projects/…

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Please share it if you can It would be a great help guys. 10x

Chris McFarland

21:17

Starred for you

Uri Popov

thanks dude

Chris McFarland

22:03

@jgallant switch bought

jgallant

Hehehehe

Congrats you get Zelda??

@UriPopov nice man

Chris McFarland

yeah just zelda

Uri Popov

@jgallant thanks dude

jgallant

your spokeswoman is not great

Uri Popov

how so ?

jgallant

22:06

hard to understand

Uri Popov

yeah her English is not so good sad to say

jgallant

cool product though

Uri Popov

10x we actually try to change things in the current education system

jgallant

Yeah that is very important

i considered making children apps for tablets/phones for a whie

it is so easy

Uri Popov

I'm currently listening to Ode to Joy.. how can non-EU composers even compete :D

jgallant

22:08

"Tap the bear" then have a bunch of animals on the screen

tap the bear, bear dances or something

lol

Uri Popov

making content for kids is not as easy as it seems. If you want to have an effect that is

entertaining kids is easy yep for sure

jgallant

yeah it needs to provide a lot of feedback

Uri Popov

I mean come on kids are ACTUALLY dumb

but tricking them into learning something useful while they have fun is kinda hard

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I mean we build a whole company around that :D

Chris McFarland

lol

PearsonArtPhoto

22:27

The price seems a bit high, but maybe that's just me.

High for Kickstarter, that is.

I would suspect the MSRP to be around $40-$50 for such a game, I would expect the pre-order price to be around $30-$35.

Still, looks interesting.

Uri Popov

22:49

honestly manufacturing a game with so many elements is just so damn expensive

PearsonArtPhoto

True enough I suppose.

Uri Popov

manufacturing is hard M'kay

jgallant

23:04

do you have zelda or not?

Uri Popov

I dont own a console

Chris McFarland

I'm in the cool kids club now

Uri Popov

hanvnt since SNES

Chris McFarland

the grass is pretty nice btw

Chris McFarland

23:21

I can't find for the life of me where my Tallowmere Android save folder is
I deleted a couple folders from the USB connection, uninstalled, reinstalled, and it's still pulling up some old savefile from somewhere

there, restarted my tablet. must've been in memory somewhere :|

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