Will VS be smart enough to use cmake modules when it generates solutions?

Aka FindSDL.cmake or whatever

cmake generates the solution files, not VS

Oh cool

cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Useful_Variables

Alright, time to go try to make this work

on linux I just wrote a small script to create a build directory, cd to it, run cmake, run make, and run the program. 5 lines, real simple.

iirc if you do make | ./program it'll only run the program if it compiles without errors

That's good to know, thanks

make || ./program

| would pipe make's output to ./program

no wait

make && ./program

Is there a reason not to use --std=c++11 in VS?

@Dave don't sweat language or engines choice too much. For the most part the skills you learn will be transferable.

huh ?

i been working on a project on unity all year

My mistake. I thought you were looking to start learning Unity or something similar.

imgur.com/a/5MIK9

@tkausl ahh you're right. I didn't think that through. make || ./program would only run program if there was an error while compiling.

Well I ended up changing my program from Computer Science to something else. I feel like a traitor.

What did you flip to?

Engineering with a focus on electronics.

Sounds more like what I'll be going to college for

I'll probably major in Computer Engineering with a minor in CS (or something else idk)

But I probably won't major in CS

@Sie nothing wrong with that

I was in an english lit class taught by a film prof who said "Star Wars [ep 4] was a Viet Nam movie"

we all said WTF

when he finished explaining, a friend who was Co Sci switched to English Lit.

said prof died about 10 years later of fucking Lou Gherig's. :(

he was supposed to be at our wedding, but called to say he couldn't make it because he was stopping in on the way to HIS wedding, but she cancelled on him.

guy didn't deserve that

I really love working on games and programming the features and all of that. However when it comes to writing normal old applications it bores me to tears and really I've kind of been wanting to diverge a bit.

i hate writing menus :(

That's a shame about your professor. Some people just get the short end of the stick in life and it sucks. My cousin who was my biggest inspiration past at 31 of cancer (something of the stomach) in 2014.

it's why I won't use an engine that doesn't have a menu editor

@Sie :(

@Almo I don't know. Everyone (at least more seasoned developers) seem to dislike engines like Unity (there is a word for the way it is handled) but for me I love them. Perhaps it's what I started out with.

Evenk Autonomous Okrug (Russian: Эвенки́йский автоно́мный о́круг, Evenkiysky avtonomny okrug; Evenki: Эведы Автомоды Округ, Evedy avtomody okrug), or Evenkia, was a federal subject of Russia (an autonomous okrug of Krasnoyarsk Krai). It had been created in 1930. Its administrative center was the urban-type settlement of Tura. As of 2006, at 767,600 km², it was Russia's seventh largest federal subject, and the country's least populous: 17,697 (2002 Census).[1]

that's some sparse shit there

@Sie Entity Component System

I don't really like it either.

everything feels like it's cobbled together.

Like where every game object is kind of it's own thing? Something about it just clicks with me.

no, that a gameobject has a this component a that component and the this component has to get the that component to access stuff in it

Oh components. I don't really mind it but I do find it a little annoying having to access components at times. When I was first working on my inventory system it was a tiny nightmare.

hmm i've gone in circles with my game design choice for pathfinding just can't get it quite right

so many edge cases to check for its borderline painful

Sweet. Layers of Fear came out of early access finally. Gotta finish that game up.

store.steampowered.com/app/391720

haha i thought that said "lawyers of fear"

Anyone here ever played Penumbra?

It's an excellent horror game with an amazing atmosphere and no bull shit jump scares. The guys who made (Frictional Games) are the makers of Amensia and more recently Soma.

sniff its to hard to code when ur sick

I wanted to get into xamarin today to make a android 2D math game

@Muffin I found you a better profile picture. It's technically still a muffin...

@TheMuffinCoder What would the game play be like?

@TheMuffinCoder I definitely agree with you there

I was sick a few weeks ago for about 8 days

It sucked

@Josh Is my literal shit post (well it's a muffin actually) against any rules?

@Pip Ya being sick is never fun.

I think our @TheMuffin may be dead.

Possibly

Not big surprise.

@IcyDefiance is it typical for CMake to generate three projects instead of one for VS?

I have projectname, ALL_BUILD, and ZERO_CHECK

ZERO_CHECK will rerun cmake. You can/should execute this after changing
something on your CMake files.
ALL_BUILD is simply a target which builds all and everything project in
the active solution, I guess one can compare it to "make all".

Ah that's cool. Thanks

So I have a bunch of .lib library files for SDL

And VS is complaining that it can't find them, because of course it wants .obj library files instead

Ideas?

VS wants obj library files?

Apparently

Oh wait

Or maybe I'm being dumb

Where does the linker use as it's run directory?

My CMakeLists file has a relative path in it

that could be causing it

don't know

and this shouldnt matter

cmake will set the paths up so they work

Yeah it should

So I'm probably doing something dumb

If it doesn't work then the paths are already wrong in cmake

> target_link_libraries(Runaway ${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/lib/x64/SDL2 ${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/lib/x64/SDL2main)

It should be SDL2 and SDL2main

Explain?

link_directories(${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/lib/x64 ${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/lib/x64)

Ah I see

Since it's the same path, do I need the duplicates?

and then only target_link_libraries(Runaway SDL2 SDL2main)

Oh, no

only once

didn't notice they were the same

Alright, now I'm down to a

Severity	Code	Description	Project	File	Line	Suppression State
Error	LNK1104	cannot open file 'SDL2.lib'	Runaway	C:\Users\user\Desktop\workspace\Runaway\build\Runaway\LINK	1

Which is progress, I guess

if(MSVC AND WIN32)
    include_directories(${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/include)
	add_executable(Runaway WIN32 ${INC_COMMON} ${SRC_COMMON} ${INC_WIN32} ${SRC_WIN32})
	link_directories(${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}/lib/win32/SDL2/lib/x64)
	target_link_libraries(Runaway SDL2 SDL2main)
endif()

correct?

(Because it's still not working)

actually you can drop the ${Runaway_SOURCE_DIR}

no

What's the issue?

link_directories needs to come before add_executable

Got it

Eyyy, it kind of works

Severity	Code	Description	Project	File	Line	Suppression State
Error	LNK1120	1 unresolved externals	Runaway	C:\Users\user\Desktop\workspace\Runaway\build\Runaway\Debug\Runaway.exe	1
Error	LNK2019	unresolved external symbol SDL_main referenced in function main_utf8	Runaway	C:\Users\user\Desktop\workspace\Runaway\build\Runaway\SDL2main.lib(SDL_windows_main.obj)	1

I have no idea what that means, time for more googling :P

Thanks

uh

you have no int main()

i guess

"int main()" that's so fucking archaic :)

Got it

I had int main() instead of int main(int argc, char **argv), which is what SDL wanted

SDL does some magic that does library initialization then calls your main method

I hate when libs do that

@Sie I'm back! :D

well, int main() isn't really legal C anyway

Okay, now I just have to figure out why VS can't run the executable

was doing studying... I have a quiz on the reproductive system tomorrow shudders

Is it required by the standard to have parameters?

Guys guys check this out imgur.com/a/5MIK9

a compiler accepting that was just being nice and it shouldn't have been

I thought so

Yeah I think so

@TheMuffinCoder late to the party Muffin :P

:( poo

Anyway... VS says that it's a permission error but I'm not so sure

lol i should had seen it earlier but I was playing Overwatch

I should really start working on another puzzle level. Someone say some inspiring shit.

Any ideas on.... this one? :D

@Sie turnstyles

disable your antivir

It's off (not that I'm... running any :P)

wow

windows sucks

This is pretty inspirational

Yep

ah

wait

hm?

lol was it ur antivirus the whole time?

you need to set your project as startup-project

I remember that happened to me, I couldnt understand why my C programs wouldn't run

Hmm

Is there a way to do that in cmake?

Thats a VS thing

Got it

Is there a way to automatically copy SDL2.dll?

there probably is... but i usually do it manually

since you only need to do it once

I'm sure there is, probably something to do with ${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}

That's true

add_custom_command(TARGET MyTest POST_BUILD        # Adds a post-build event to MyTest
    COMMAND ${CMAKE_COMMAND} -E copy_if_different  # which executes "cmake - E copy_if_different..."
        "${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/libs/test.dll"      # <--this is in-file
        $<TARGET_FILE_DIR:MyTest>)                 # <--this is out-file path

Huh

Hm maybe it's not that easy

Can you set the VS output dirs in the cmake file?

yeah

guess this should work for vs..

OMG ROROTWIST!!

I'll put that on the todo list

Thanks, those same things turned up for me

I can't tell if it's crashing or just not doing anything :/

Nope, got it

Legit, thanks tkausl

Now I have to hope that this cmake file also works correctly on Linux (which it won't, but I'll iron that out tomorrow morning

Thanks for all of the help!

urrrg multi platform cmakes files

The pain of the first time doing it with Glew/GLUT

Sweet: randalolson.com/2016/05/25/why-is-reddit-replacing-imgur

wow and will they be able to still profit even running that?

Pretty sure they are still doing ok on ad. revenue and monthly donations.

Alright, night all!

@IcyDefiance hey rune pages 2 for 1 sale under bundles

is this on-topic?

Oh its on hold now

that answers my question

@Jon Most of my weapons and creatures have a handful of AudioSources

otherwise for one-off sounds, I just store whatever AudioClips are needed, and then have a custom audio manager play one-off sounds wherever as required, pooled AudioSources and whatnot

used to use that AudioSource.PlayOneShot method but couldn't use it properly on one of my console ports

Hello

In-laws are up atm lol

Last night though, Rami Ismail from Vlambeer was in the country at an indie dev dinner, small group of us ended up chatting with him in the street til 1am lol, lots of cool stories told

Yeah was awesome to meet him

Ah yep

han, didnt' know

how exactly can I link comments

?

wow

thanks :)

lol

sunshine lollipops and rainbows

are apparently wonderful

early morning drugs?

at this point I have no idea what is dream and what is reality

Just going with the flow

@Tyyppi_77 that "I hate you" guy... LOL

tyyppi replied very kindly. I think that's hard to resist the temptation to answer something like "lik ma baals, fagit"

ahahah

well he does have a point though... I'm never was easy with being so strict about the rules

but anyway, his question was way off topic, not even gray area

at most the gay one

Licka mah balllllzzzzz

fagit

Licka Licka Licka Licka lick

@scott I'm against it, because if we'd add this as SE site, we have to add other sites for specific plants as well. I think it suits well on some gardening.se or medical.se/biology.se

@Tyyppi_77 great response tyyppi

- GameDev SE Chat

Trying to snag this broken macpro

Screen broken he wants 300

How old is it? That actually doesn't sound like a terrible deal depending on the specifics.

2012

4gb

2.5ghz

kongregate.com/games/bontegames/…

good shit there

Try to haggle him down to like $200 @Jon if you can.

same guy who made "factory balls" which I really liked.

I offered 150 but now I'm like fuck should have just fine over there first

Gone over

Factory balls is awesome

yeah, that guy makes good stuff

I'm still trying to refine my vertex manipulation script. Like it feels good to play but it just feels too slow. What are some ways to make it more stream lined? I'm thinking maybe have the vertex snap to surfaces.

You are the vertex manipulation guy here

Own it

lol

I know. I just want to make it feel buttery smooth and not slow.

Do you need play games in order to have better concept of game development?

even if you do not enjoy to play that game?

wtf?

Geesh

You need to have an understanding of what makes a game fun

Must... resist... urge... to... crawl back into bed...

If you don't personally enjoy a type of game doesn't mean you can't understand why others think it is fun

This looks really cool: gfycat.com/FlashyPlayfulGerenuk

reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/4l38t2/…

@Almo I'm stuck on 17 atm. I refuse to take hints. :P

Looks like a keypad, but inputting the numbers doesn't solve it.

The space is throwing me off too.

I want to play but I'm on phone blah

It's made for phone though.

There's an extended version that uses touch and gyro and stuff

Cool

Weird. For some reason despite the mesh being constantly updated it still doesn't prevent some small collisions. Probably need to adjust the collision detection settings.

Yay, I solved all the puzzles. I'm awesome.

Now you know

The force is too strong. I'm going back to sleep. Just need like 5 more hours of sleep.

HA! I got the idea on how to solve the std::solve case with my custom, much faster std::vector. Sadly, I have to change a lot of code for it, but it'll behave the same as before, even though it needs a bit more memory now

@WilliamMariager 17 was actually pretty easy... I was stuck on few ones before that

@Ali.S Yeah, I had the numpad upside down :P I was using my keyboard for reference :P

lol

I have no idea how I solved 20

Well call me Shirley and punch me in the face

@Jon Ok.

Hi Shirley

Took me 10 mins to submit a leave request with my work's software

someone punch him / her im an ocean away

@Jon Shirley facepunch

This app is so fucken bad

@Jon I recall taking 2 hours to do that last time at my old job

Your company has an app? Count yourself lucky. I had an ancient and non-mobile friendly site I had to use.

each time you did it you had to get a password reset because it used some credentials that expired every month and most people did it yearly

The way you have to submit for a partial day was designed by mentally handicapped people

those credentials were specific to that app only and not tied to anything else

I'm gonna screenshot this fucken shit you need to see

after waiting the mandatory 1 hour 1st line support wait time they would send you a "special link" to reset your password

from there you had to tell a web form your lifes story to get a new password

after that you could login and go through the 20 links to the page in question

then you had to issue via a convoluted series of steps a request to your line manager who would then have to do the saem thing you just did to get their password

after that you had to confirm the approval to say you were happy for that to come out of your "allowance of holiday days for the year"

only then could it be "manually copied" to the team calendar

2 hours was a "fast turnover" for such a case

@Jon Oasis?

Lets say you want to request 3 hours off how would you do that?

Oracle product

This is how. Enter 3 in start day hours after selecting partial day in drop down. Then press calculate end date. Then press forecast balance.

Anything else throws error that doesn't explain why

If you do it in that order you can then submit it properly

@Jon you can't half day, day or not at all

I know how now. The point is that this is extremely not intuitive. Shit design.

@Ali.S That's how I felt about the second color one ... it was weird.

You literally need to have someone tell you how to do it

@WilliamMariager YEAH NO HINTS

@Jon wow that's shitty

No man sky pushed back

not terribly surprising

Hello internet!

Not going to post on the Pandemic designer's Facebook share about Catan about how horrible a game it is. (how horrible catan is, not pandemic, which is excellent)

Are we talking about Settlers of Catan?

yeah

Never played it

its random element can fuck over the game too much.

it's not that a random element can determine the winner, as in many games I do like, such as Power Grid. A bad power plant card draw can cost you the game if it's tight.

Never played either, but I read it was better than Monopoly :P

but you still get to play

in Catan, if the random element fucks you over, you don't get to play.

same for Citadels

I really like the game but nobody wants to play it with me

I played catan 3 times. twice, the random element fucked me. I put my stuff on 6 and 8 as much as possible (most common numbers rolled on two dice), and what happens: we roll 10, 11, 12 most of the time. I get no resources and lose horribly. The other game... I won easily.

I like its core mechanics and how it has good trading and stuff. But the random element is poorly implemented, in my opinion.

I'll play it with the card pack that normalizes the die rolls to some extent.

Almo hates luck

I don't mind luck that's implemented in a way that doesn't prevent me from playing (as I said just above) :)

I had one game of Citadels where I was dead 80% of the rounds (I counted because I had nothing else to do). So I literally did not get to play.

If you get drunk enough you can enjoy anything

hahah