Game Development

Alexandre Vaillancourt

00:00

@Sie don't forget to mark your answer as the accepted one ;)

Sie

00:13

Gotta wait. After all I need those sweet imaginary internet points.

What do you do when you know you should probably do some work on your game but have no motivation?

TheMuffinCoder

wait rep is imaginary? /me enters existential crisis

@Sie Look at other games, it motivates me to want to be as awesome as them

Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare - Reveal Trailer | PS4

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Looking at the newest COD trailer (came out yesterday) really motivated me to start getting work done on my futuristic open-racing game

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Sie Think what you'd think about yourself in 5 years from now.

Sie

@AlexandreVaillancourt Craving a cheeseburger?

Like I am now.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Gotta start to rule the world somehow. But not on an empty stomach, right :P

Sie

lol ya

But seriously I do see what you guys are saying. I look at /r/Unity3D a lot and see some really cool stuff. It inspires me but it makes me think damn the bar is already set so high in some aspects. Some titles I see look like triple-a titles.

TheMuffinCoder

00:23

hey Sie, how advanced are you into Unity :p

Almo

@Sie if rep on SO is imaginary, then everything is imaginary.

Let's square it all so it becomes real negative

Sie

@TheMuffinCoder I'm farily good with it. C# is something I need to get better with though.

Almo

C-HASH!!!

:)

Sie

@Almo how can we see if our eyes aren't real

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real

Tweeted by officialjaden on May 2, 2013 at 1:23 AM

Almo

easy. direct input to your sensory cortex, which is also imaginary

TheMuffinCoder

00:28

lol everything in our brain is imaginary

Sie

TheMuffinCoder

Makes me wonder why all the cells in my body bother working together :P

Sie

@TheMuffinCoder Magic obviously.

TheMuffinCoder

I spent too much time trying to think of a clever respond, i give up :P

Almo

Mitochondria reproduce on their own, and have their own DNA. Are we just colonies of mitochondria?

(those are the things that generate energy for us... so in exchange for the energy, we keep them fed)

TheMuffinCoder

00:31

dont worry Almo, AP bio made sure to drill that in ;)

Almo

:D

It's one of the weirder facts about our bodies.

TheMuffinCoder

If Mitochondria are feeding on us, they must be parasites!!! QUICK TELL THE WORLD WE NEED TO REMOVE ALL THE MITOCHONDRIAS

Sie

@Almo I'm free from the shackles of course work. Game? I'll play Sona and you ADC?

Almo

I'm still at work

:(

Sie

So?

Almo

00:32

OT mode for a while

hahah

TheMuffinCoder

Sie do you have dj sona? :P

Almo

nice try ;)

Sie

@TheMuffinCoder Arcade. I got that before DJ was released. I'm going to buy it though.

Do you play LoL Muffin?

TheMuffinCoder

Used to :D

I literally did nothing but play league morning till night all summer

Sie

I just came out of retirement a week ago. Never a better time :P.

TheMuffinCoder

00:34

Then school started and I completely stopped League as if it were a addiction

Sie

I know man.

I forgot about how addicted I was to it. It's like crack but nowadays I have better self control at least so that is good.

TheMuffinCoder

lol I had better control over league than my minecraft addiction prior to that :P

Sie

Well if you feel like playing me and @Almo usually play at least 1-2 games a night give or take.

TheMuffinCoder

Nah I rather play Halo 5 now :P much more relaxation

Wait anything is much more relaxing than league :D

Sie

Eww. That thing is still alive?

I thought they killed it off at 4.

TheMuffinCoder

00:37

lol Sie I'm a console peasant

Sie

I have no real beef with consoles... well except that the PS4 can't even handle Ratchet and Clank at 30FPS without consistent frame drops.

TheMuffinCoder

/me console peasant who has both xbone and ps4 :P

Sie

Hell. I'd buy a Wii U if Nintendo would stop fucking over their fanbase.

Not holding my breath though. It's like asking them to make an innovative Pokemon game.

Almo

@TheMuffinCoder not dota 2

TheMuffinCoder

Or CSGO :P

Almo

00:50

yeah fuck CS

that community makes LoL players look like a bunch of Care Bears.

Leandro Pezzente

01:07

Team Fortress 2 it's probably a far better community

At least, until the new doom comes out.

Sie

01:26

> New game that has class based game play comes out.

> OMG TF2 IZ DEAD!!! D;

Almo

01:52

I don't really care about anything they say TF2 has over Overwatch, except FOV adjustments.

If OW's FOV is > 90, I can't play it.

(though I still can't play it due to OS restriction)

Leandro Pezzente

well, funny that meme didn't mentios TOS Online

Almo

Mods don't interest me in general

Sie

02:49

@Almo You done at work yet?

Almo

yeah but I'm going to go sleep now

it's almost 11 here

Sie

@Almo IIRC it's limit is 101

ight

Almo

101 is not so bad

but I gotta have 90

Sie

ya

Almo

I get so sick when it's higher

I played Q3 against guy who used 120 I think

crazy

Sie

02:50

They originally wanted to keep it at 80 and people bitched and moaned so they changed it.

Anything above 110 doesn't make me sick but it feels weird to me.

Chris McFarland

07:36

@Almo Too lazy, that's why I made it a comment lol

Kevin van der Velden

09:26

@Almo then turn it down?

It's configurable

user92578

10:08

Last class, then a 4 day weekend!

user92578

10:27

my antivirus just stopped working so now's the time to hack me

user92578

asus smart gesture also doesn't launch

user92578

weird things, weird things

Jon

no worries, that is just me stealing your codebase

Dominic Hughes

10:47

anyone know how that call works? -> struct A { static int s = ::ComputeSomething(); }

DH.

Wait for Josh appear, he's GD version of Jon Skeet and will know the answer

Dominic Hughes

well jon skeet ant anyone too look up too if he is a christian lol

Jon

ouch

Dominic Hughes

I'm sorry just my opinion you don't have to be offended or hurt by it , but it's the truth religion must be minimized as much as possible in places where clearly we can see that the world is made out of energy not a neurological disorder 2000 years ago.

I believe it is radiant energy that constructed the photon .

Jon

I meant ouch, for a smart guy he sure is stupid

Dominic Hughes

10:55

I have to agree sorry : DH

DH.

Welp, it was only a joke since the guy got the most stupid amount of badges and rep on SO

Dominic Hughes

he does that stuff for a living lol

Jon

he is not just religious.. he is very religious wow

Dominic Hughes

Hahaha what a acorn.

DH.

LOL Doom barely got released and already there's a 25% discount going on

Looks like Hype train got to the last station already

Jon

10:59

doom was released?

Dominic Hughes

I think the new DOOM is well ant legendary or revolutionary but it's defiantly okay looking .

apparently so lol

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 5 day weekend hype!

DH.

Derp, it's pre-release

Jon

Doom lost all of its traction after the Beta

fuck the die hard fans -- give the new generation a halo rip off.

DH.

IDK what you guys feel, but to me AAA lost the touch for good games

Dominic Hughes

11:02

It's just flipped.. final fantasy has gone to crap , all the major franchises are dieing a slow death.

DH.

Looks like they waste 90% of the money and time on graphics and supporting all GPU

Jon

the main issue is that they don't take risks

Dominic Hughes

++1 too Jon

DH.

Yeah, they are always making the same shit over and over again

Annual of Duty will have a new game as expected

Dominic Hughes

lol call of pilionare

annual of duty oh lol that was good

Chris McFarland

11:08

Activision cycles through development teams to keep up with their yearly release schedule. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty#Main_series

I'm currently doing a factory reset on my Android tablet >_>
kept freezing and rebooting itself -_-

DH.

I hope that I don't damage my smartphone during the tests of my app

Dominic Hughes

I'm trying to get more accurate at correct c++ programming so reading bjarne stroustrup 2013 version of C++ programming language.

trying to figure out how struct int blah = ::functionofsomething(); works..

static int blah ** sorry

Jon

get a hammock

Dominic Hughes

<3

Jon

seriously, if you wanna be a noob don't get one

Chris McFarland

11:15

#foreverhammockless

Jon

WTF is this guy doing?

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Chris McFarland

lol

DH.

I still wonder how Jon find those videos

Jon

that goat learned the hard way no doubt

notice there is some strange monkey type animal laying flat on the ground next to him

Chris McFarland

clearly an animal whisperer

Jon

11:19

he whispers to them with a large stick

Chris McFarland

lol

Pichi Wuana

Hello

Dominic Hughes

if anyone wants to see me djing lol :
https://youtu.be/UmJuQhuxuUw

Jon

how old are you

Dominic Hughes

: < 22

Jon

11:26

that is like 1 hour long

DH.

Let's celebrate our 7 starred dot with a good video

dotto.mp4

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user92578

@DominicHughes Pretty sure it's just a static call

user92578

@KevinvanderVelden 5?!?!?

Dominic Hughes

@Jon Well it's a sorta showcase of me djing .

@Tyyppi_77 Interesting hmm

Jon

at first i thought it was Djing the name of the software you used

Chris McFarland

11:27

@PichiWuana Hellooooooo

Jon

seems very repetitive

Dominic Hughes

Ha sorry @Jon I'm quite talented .

Pichi Wuana

what's upp

user92578

self boost at it's finest there

user92578

damn religion class is boring and sucks big time

Jon

11:28

I'm a self proclaimed genius

sup pichi

Dominic Hughes

@Jon then you should be reducing suffering.

Jon

lol

Chris McFarland

Android sucks so much
Settings > About Tablet > System Updates > Check for updates, click the "check for updates" button a couple times
"your system is up to date"
go back to the home screen
"New system update available"
just doubleyou tee eff

user92578

haha :D

Jon

You just missed it

Chris McFarland

11:30

lmao

I tell it to not restore my apps

so what does it do?

queues all 53 apps to download

Jon

hmmm

Pichi Wuana

Is this site for general questions about developing games, I mean, i.e. it's not for code bugs?

Jon

i think it overrides the app permissions in the new update @ChrisMcFarland

Since it changed the way it does app permissions now

user92578

Technical questions are allowed but we obviously don't debug other's code for them simply

Chris McFarland

@PichiWuana Chat is for whatever you fancy. The actual gamedev.stackexchange.com site is more for game-specific questions... StackOverflow might be better suited for general code help

Jon

11:32

Debugging code is going to be shunned hard.

As a question post that is

Chris McFarland

yeah, unless it's a simple answer

Pichi Wuana

I understand

Jon

if you can't debug your code yourself, then you need to clearly identify the reason why

and not just drop 1000 lines of code

Chris McFarland

@Jon yeah I do like the new asking me for permissions thing

Jon

yeah, you can say "Nope"

and the app still runs

which is how it should have been to begin with... no reason you need to access my contact information for me to play angry birds

Pichi Wuana

11:34

Of course

Chris McFarland

before I did my factory reset, I tried launching Crossy Road
"Do you want to allow Crossy Road to manage and make phone calls?"
Nope

Jon

i don't install shit apps/games like that anymore

I don't support it

I know it doesn't matter

Chris McFarland

It's a dumb Unity thing tbh half the time

Jon

But to me, its a matter of principle regardless.

Chris McFarland

some silly setting in the manifest it must put in

Jon

11:35

yeah

they use it for their analytics

you can build yourself after you dump the java code from unity

and include your own manifest, and compile the java code manually

Chris McFarland

:/
I tick to disable Unity's analytics when compiling builds, can't be bothered wasting my customers' bandwidth/cpu

yeah

Jon

but shit man... that adds a ton of crap to your workflow

Chris McFarland

I've tried finding the manifest before

didn't get very far

Jon

there is no way to modify it between compilation

Kevin van der Velden

@Tyyppi_77 yup :D. I work 4 days a week with wednesday off by default, thursday is a national holiday and I took friday off

Jon

11:36

you can go and alter it -- but it gets ignored

i don't even think it uses it at all

bypasses it and generates one on the fly more than likely

Chris McFarland

aye

Jon

dick move

Almo

12:50

We're running into Android's "dex" problem: only 65536 functions allowed in one app (unless you do multi-dex, which is apparently unstable until version 5 of the OS, and is still a hassle)

user92578

wow

Almo

the more i work with android the more I hate it

not that iOS doesn't have weird shit in it here and there, but seriously we're having to dig into GooglePlayServices.jar and delete stuff just so we can compile on android.

we've removed Helpshift and SuperSonic, which are things we need, and we're looking for a way to get them back in

PearsonArtPhoto

Wow, I've never had that problem with Android...

Of course, I did spend about 4 hours just updating a few libraries a few weeks ago...

Almo

You need to add a bunch of libraries for it to happen, but when it does... ouch.

ok gotta hed to werk. talk later :)

PearsonArtPhoto

It's probably weird java conflicts...

Almo

13:01

It's how the OS indexes functions to be called

PearsonArtPhoto

Wait, that's right, Android has a weird "feature" that there's a limit on the number of lines of code that can be included...

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A: Is there a limit on the number of lines of code you can put in an Eclipse java doument

I ran into that problem some time ago and found out that its no problem to have 50k lines and more of code in one class as long as the method limit is not exceeded. Depending on what's in one single method that actually causes the bytecode size I experienced limitations between 2-3k lines of co...

50K lines of code max appears to be the limit...

I hope they've improved that. 50K LOC isn't that much really...

user92578

Reallyreally WIP, but I'm working on doors

Jon

Chris McFarland

@Tyyppi_77 cool textures

PearsonArtPhoto

13:11

He always does...

user92578

Thanks!

Jon

someone hacked my reddit account

lol... oh no, not my reddit account, shit

user92578

@Jon damn I did not get this at first

user92578

im an idiot

Jon

what did you think it was?

user92578

13:14

just some random junk that I did not even read

Jon

lol

i'm gonna make a velveeta grilled cheese

ween myself off this winter weight

Dominic Hughes

@Tyyppi_77 Pretty impressive.

user92578

Thanks!

Dominic Hughes

I made this 3 years ago :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYkrwFUxYgs

Jon

hate long winded intros

your jumping looks like it is teleporting :P

and that pink man... dude you are gonna lose your vision

Dominic Hughes

13:22

@Jon their is a better version hold on lol

Jon

haha just messing with you

i really do hate long winded intros though, haha

user92578

lol

Dominic Hughes

Bounding Box Collision [C++/SDL]

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Jon

VIDEO ROOM 1000 COMPLETE MIX -- All 1000 videos seen in sequential order!

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This is interesting

Chris McFarland

Too much pink lol

Jon

13:24

man that colour palette is so wrong

Dominic Hughes

hahaha

my gayer way <3

Jon

haha, my main issue is that it would hurt my eyes just testing it

I can't use bold reds like that

really messes with my vision

other people seem to be immune to it

I imagine it is because of the LSD i have done

Dominic Hughes

I knew going in that might be a problem for people the point I suppose was for it too be silly. : )

Jon

does this similar write in effect into my field of vision

Dominic Hughes

Okay Jon what about this : P ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q37GFJL0cK0

Jon

13:29

That isn't your song

Dominic Hughes

I know it was the programming -_-

user92578

What did that take? renderSprite(); playMusic();

Dominic Hughes

lol java <3

Jon

its cool but doesn't impress me :)

because I know how to do it

I'm a self-proclaimed genius remember.

Dominic Hughes

awesome :D

Jon

13:31

so have you ever completed a game ?

Dominic Hughes

@Jon Good question and the answer is no , but my ideas are insane . : )
However I can complete a video easily nowdays .

I'm about too attempt it officially today for that matter since I wanna learn c++ more closely whilst making a game in the process : ) .

2D with some hand written transformations and perspective projections if possible using math.h and geometry functions.

Jon

what is your most completed game?

My ideas are also insane

I typically tone them down so people don't think i'm a nutjob

Dominic Hughes

The greatest idea is realized efficient similarity their done finished.

user92578

My game scope is huge for my first real serious project

user92578

Almo

13:36

d

Jon

yah

been there @Tyyppi_77

abandoned that.

user92578

I won't (I hope)

user92578

@Almo e

Jon

you can't

its almost done

user92578

weird place to start the alphabet song

Jon

13:37

buckle up and get er done

user92578

yeah I guess so :D

Almo

@PearsonArtPhoto Yeah, that's in addition to the limit on total number of functions :D

@KevinvanderVelden Yes, I know. On some games, however, it's not configurable, and that's what we were talking about. :)

user92578

So I want to do some kind of switch thingy for unlocking these

user92578

TL;DR: RTFM gamedev.stackexchange.com/a/120978/35344

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