@Pip how are you doing today?

dude

you don't need to ask the same question to everyone

sorry :(

you can ask (once) So how's everyone doing?

and those who want to answer will

but i enjoy talking to you especially pip

I just realized how much different it is being raised in a american culture/education system

We write all the dates backwards (month first then day and year)

And then we use a whole different unit system just to troll all the other countries

yeah we do

how do i get motivate

do work on grame

"do work on grame"?

You mean "How do I get motivated to work on a game?"?

@Volatile youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

still remembering those days

ram is a..... ? fill in the blanks

ram is a volatile memory

lol me back then

ram? whats ram? what's a computer

haha

I didnt get a computer till 2008

xD

computer is an electronic device

didnt get a computer till 2011

D:

bought a computer from hacking mig ids

sorry laptop*

then started learning yeeah ~

@TheMuffinCoder I expected more than that from you.

JUST DO IT

LOL xD

Im still doing hw today ; - ;

Never has my desire to code javascript been stronger

; -; today is also my last day of summer vacation D:

WHOO I just have chemistry to do

Yeah I am as well

D: I still have to do my APBio, English 3 honor stuff today

Just finished Spanish III this morning

Finished the English reading yesterday

Finished precalc yesterday

lol pip do you have school tomorrow too?

yeah :P

Finished History yesterday... the part that's due on the first day

lol all my hw is due tomorrow xD

time to rush through it

I have chem, some english that's due the second day, and some history that's (1) easy and (2) due next week IIRC

Muffin then dies from too much adrenaline

After chem I might just wait to do the rest until this week

Idk yet

lol cant wait till i finish, then I can finish my entry for the js13k

I can't wait until I finish so I can work on my 3d printer!

Fuck yeah!

D: if only i had a 3d printer

I'm building one

:P but im good with 2D

I love making 3d models from custom papercrafts

If you want I can print you parts for one

reprap.org

Also btw Muffin

Yes the almighty Pip?

@Jon, @Hjorthenify and I are going to be working on a game in UE at somepoint since none of us have used it before

Will you do some models for us when that happens?

Sure! but will i be able to make these models this weekend?

If you... want?

:D ill do my best but theres one thing

We won't be starting for a while because of school for me and college for Hjor

@Pip can i help

I don't know how to animate them yet D:

Oh thank godness

Not an issue

lol

I have time to learn to animate them

Lol

Unreal engine?

@Volatile have you finished a game before?

Can I help :D or atleast look at the source code too

@TheMuffinCoder yeah, but none of us have ever used it :D

lol neither have I

dont u need C++?

Or is it unrealscript

@pip no but I played around with rpg maker one time

Yeah you definitely can help if you want

okay step 1, particles everywhere!

Fonts? PARTICLE FONTS

@Volatile then no. We're learning a new engine, and it's not super useful if you have never finished anything before.

@TheMuffinCoder It's C++

lol ripperino me, I have to learn C++ too

@Pip but i already know c++

and i played with unreal too before

brb, I've had a lot of messages so I keep getting timed out. (C++ is pretty easy if you've coded before Muffin, which I know you have)

@Volatile that auto-disqualifies you. We require no Unreal experience for this project

lol i like C++, reminds me a lot of Java, just didnt get up to C++ OOP :P

@Pip only a little experience though

All i need is to learn the syntax :P

@Pip please pip i wana work with you i feel like we have a connetion that no one else has

We can use any of the models here

@Volatile We require you to have zero experience. I am done with this conversation. End of story. No.

D: pip and me are buddies too

@TheMuffinCoder trees are freaking awesome

@TheMuffinCoder tis true

:D i really like the cauldron I made in the background as well as the fence :P

pip i love you :(

It's all fully optimized and low poly, uses no textures other than face materials so these models are really fast

The cauldron is cool as well. All of it's cool :P

@Pip before I go to finish hw, what do you guys prefer dropbox/googledrive/onedrive/github?

Except for the characters, which need a bit more polish/detail then the environment, there's art for a full wander-around-and-fight-things game

I dont know if github would allow me to just hold model files tho :P

Yeah you can

oh okay :D

I like github. Have any private repos?

yea ignore my muffin

he's ugly :P

@Pip lol if only

Wait really

then we could make all the close sources programs bwhahahaha

Yo muffin

yes?

education.github.com/pack

GETS ULTRA HYPED

I have that, it includes some free private repos

ooo

All free for just being a student?

yeah

lol ill signup for it later this week

I dont have a school email so Ill have to upload my school id

Yeah I did that

took roughly a week or so for them to respond and confirm

If it takes too much longer than that, send them an email about it

eh we can still just use a public repo

:P no one will steal from us

can i help

imagine if we could do that with the UE

@TheMuffinCoder but then pull requests and stuff are a thing... I don't want that right away

lol kk :P

I'd like a private repo (or bitbucket has free ones btw) for now

we can open-source once something's there

@TheMuffinCoder we probably can

lol i did that in blender

That made in blender?

lol

took forever to render :P

my poor gtx 750 ti is going to die on me one day

Lol eventually

I'm building a PC this winter... going with a 960 probably

lol im building a PC in april

pcpartpicker.com/p/mMxLTW

Budget is going to be around 1200$

holy crap where's that money coming from

Mom :D

Mine is like 600-700 MAX

Holy crap that is awesome

You can get a Skylake i7

lol im going to get i7

and a really beefy GPU

and might cut of cost for better hardware

hyperventilates

:P

Ill prolly just use linux and invest more in hardware

That's what I'm planning to do

And reuse my current monitor and keyboard :D

Mhm

Pip u have no case D:

anyway, bbiab because of lunch

kk cya

muffin disappears for a whole century, lost to the dark lord, PHP

hides from the PHP

PHP is coming to get you, there's no escaping it

Haha reminds me of my game :P

xD ik, ever since I played your game PHP has been the evil guys in the jokes

It was before as well

It IS. Just ask @Joe

dont act like dumb

php getting tougher

from version7

perl > php

more to come brace yourself php haters

Did they fix the entire API?

duh... though PHP isn't really a scripting language like perl is

If not: 90% of the problems aren't fixed

lol i dont think PHP is as hated here as Java

@Pip it.. is?

php is a client side language then ?

lol

?

Perl? That's all I've ever used it for. IIRC I guess

> Perl 5 gained widespread popularity in the late 1990s as a CGI scripting language, in part due to its unsurpassed regular expression and string parsing abilities. In addition to CGI, Perl 5 is used for graphics programming, system administration, network programming, finance, bioinformatics, and other applications.

@TheMuffinCoder oh no, java is a hated in a different way from php. Java is hated because of it's culture of enterprisedness, PHP is hated because it is a language with completely no direction, everything works in a different way

yep

php really getting into action waiting for the final release of php 7

See also: eev.ee/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design

Also blog.codinghorror.com/the-php-singularity

lol i was trolling about perl > php

may be it would overcome asp

I never used perl, sadly I do use php tho

Pretty fun actually :D

@ujwaldhakal well yes, but nobody uses asp anymore, asp.net has completely surpassed that

Also: PHP is I think still the most popular (popular as in most used) scripting languages

many great web app are still there made through asp

i havent seen awesome app made in php only seen made in asp

i think due to its security reason

No it's because php is free to offer

No licensing costs

So every cheap host offers PHP on linux with apache and mysql

Because that's free of licensing costs

yeaah

While ASP.NET requires at least a windows server license and a IIS license

want to have final touch on my first game project

but i do hate asp.net well

Which is expensive, you can't offer a 10 bucks a year website when you have to spend more than that on the licensing as well

happy php getting faster than ever

Also, I can't find any usage statistics of asp. The only thing I can find is asp.net vs php: w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/pl-aspnet,pl-php

stackoverflow on asp?

Again, asp*.net*

ASP != ASP.NET

ASP is 15 years old =p

:o

And by 15 years old, I mean the last release is 15 years old

oh sorry i dont know exactly about it

haha havent reached that much level :D

next year 2 years will be completing secondary level

Stripe looks pretty damn cool as a payment API, in other news

I need to find something to sell, so I can use it

Also I put the current source of my JS13K game on github github.com/KevinVDVelden/JS13K

any one have used any animation libs for cards?

Define what you mean?

like shuffling a card

dealing a card

distributing a card with good animation

That's the kind of thing for which an library does not exist

That is the kind of thing you make for your game

i have to write a whole css and js oh ho

Making games generally involves making stuff =p

mrdoob.github.io/three.js/examples/webgl_trails.html

three.js is so awsome

Yes

@Pip Sell potato salad

lol

hey guys what are you doing

Hi-ho im jolly

lol i didnt like three.js much

@Volatile I'm taking a dump

All the abstraction made it harder for me to do stuff o.O

yeah it makes my toilet stand quite volatile against the load

@Volatile Too much information?

tell me more please

Okay there was a huge explosion and now I have to explain to my landlord why the toilet blew up

that's why i don't rent anymore

Ugh why would anyone call themselves Re°

Unsearchable

So I woke up super-glued to th' toilet seat. 'n th' toilet was filled wit' poop. I mean FILLED, like 10 people just decided not to flush. I started gaggin' so I flushed th' toilet... 'n then it started overflowin' wit' me still glued to th' seat. So thar I was, glued to th' toilet 'n bein' hit wit' wave after wave 'o other people's poop.

then what happened

left gta running all night .. now it says I played for 22 hours

hy @Jon

@Hjorthenify Keith Moon visited?

(He was The Who's drummer, one of the greatest drummers ever, and he liked to flush dynamite down toilets in hotels and blow them up)

Hmmm, what do you guys think about this for initial level generation, the rooms will have different things in it and the second type of floors are where the player can place floors

#2 near the end of the vid...

nice aha

now I wanna play it

@Joe You've used browserify?

:D

@MLM Have you used browserify?

@Jovito Yes, I like using webpack

I'm curious on what's the difference between the two, but first answer me something.

Do you know how to export the entire bundle as something I can import with require?

I know I can attach the whole thing to the global object but I'd like to avoid that.

What I want is to import the whole bundle as I would import jquery or lodash.

@Jovito webpack.github.io/docs/…

Those instructions show how to do it for browserify and the equivalent in webpack

The keyword you are looking for is "standalone library"

Interesting, I coulnd't find those instructions anywhere here: github.com/substack/browserify-handbook

Yes, I searched for that but the results I got were related to assigning the output to the window object.

So why do you use webpack instead of browserify?

@Jovito custom loaders, the --watch is really fast and nice

ROCKET LEAGUEEEE

Plus it seems to me that browserify has fallen to the wayside

What do you mean?

Is --watch faster than using something like watchify?

Not sure, I really like it because it caches the files and is smart about bundling so it only rebundles what changed

Super fast even with large bundles and libraries

Watchify does that too.

Cool, I am sure either would work in most situations

Finding the answer to my question in the webpack docs is kinda weird.

Anyway, thanks a bunch.

overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/…

this make me really glad about my GPU choice in the PC that I built few months ago

Will see what the future holds

talk is cheap, etc

I really hope the DX12 will favour AMD

because otherwise by the start of 2017 there will only be Nvidia

@Jovito no problem

DX12 already favours AMD

Nvidia doesn't support DX12 fully

GOD DAM HERE'S SOME NOIZE

It was revealed that they cannot support async shaders at the hardware level

Also, that article has Right Now too many times, holy shit

Right now it is unknown who will win the new DX12 GPU war, but right now it looks like AMD are set to gain the most performance from the new API.

why can't nvidia do async right now? I'm kind of disappointed right now

Hi.

@Jon oh god he's here again

I am.

Hmmmmm

That not valid?

!

it's valid, even tried !UNITY_WSA_8_0 to be more specific, no luck

oh wait, maybe wrong folder

man, I can't be bothered with this. Everyone's on Steam anyway, or there's DRM-free versions available on a couple other stores linked on my site

@Chris what are you doing

dealing with errors trying to compile for Windows Store

relating my Steam plugin files that want to throw errors for some reason, even though it's still Windows at the end of the day. nothing else complains when I build for Android/iOS or even non-Steam desktop versions. No idea, can't be bothered lol

i know a guy who works at the windows store in the mall

probably wouldn't get many sales anyway

i can ask him for you

that's okay

can't even switch between Windows 7 and Windows 10 without a bunch of chkdsk scans being run, so ridiculous