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Jon
Jon
01:05
so basically a shittier minecraft
01:26
@Jon Not really.
Guessing you didn't do any additional reading on it
@GnomeSlice looks interesting
Jon
Jon
heh, yeah -- isn't it annoying how people compare every single game to minecraft or terraria now?
Its like minecraft, next.
Comparisons are fine.
Jon
Jon
I got phantom pain for free
and i bought gta5
thankfully fallout 4 and doom isn't out yet
or i'd be damn broke
and more then likely wasting a shitton of time
01:46
:P
Jon
Jon
i'm down to 1 monitor -- my new video card only has 1 dvi
i need to buy HDMI cables
Looks tidy
my case has 3 SSD drives hanging out the side with the side panel off lol
Jon
Jon
my old one looks like a frankenstein inside
the modular power supply helps a lot
damn, that rack pointing to the side is actually genius
yeah theyre good
Jon
Jon
and it is so quiet
the fan control is amazing
02:00
Jon
Jon
that PS not give you any issues?
It's been excellent
Jon
Jon
cool, the other model.. CX650 has major issues with their fan
sucky
Jon
Jon
why don't you mount your SSD lol
02:02
laziness
plus this makes it easier to detach
Jon
Jon
heh , just get an external one
i am on the lookout for sales
it's external enough :p
Jon
Jon
i want another ssd
my 1 TB old HDD just has SteamOS on it atm for testing, kind of a waste but it's slow so w/e
cbf with moving parts
my old drives would always break
Jon
Jon
ever have a SSD drive fail ?
02:05
nope... I think my oldest SSD is 2-years now
longer than some of my normal HDDs :|
fricking 13 months and they break, fuck that
Jon
Jon
heh
i always researched hard drives
got high rated ones with low failure rates
only had 1 fail on me
Backblaze has a report that basically says that failure rates are on the rise iirc
warranties are less
Jon
Jon
yeah, i imagine manufacturers are cutting corners
yeah..
Jon
Jon
gotta make those Q3 numbers
02:08
customer data? mehhhhh who cares
Joe
Joe
i know a guy who insists on buyng from different manufacture lots
Jon
Jon
Corsair products are awesome up to now
Joe
Joe
so if hes going to buy WD reds.. he will order 1 from amazon, 1 from newegg 1 from best buy
Jon
Jon
i never bought from corsair and regretted. Same thing for Asus and Intel.
for the different batches?
I hate Asus, nothing but trouble in my experience
Joe
Joe
02:09
yea just so he never gets 3 disks that was assembled at the same time
Jon
Jon
Man... Asus has been amazing for me.
yeah. which is dumb eh
Jon
Jon
Especially this new board, wow.
that you have to go to lengths to do that
Asus GPU - broke
Asus mobo - broke
Asus moitor - washed out colours no matter what factory settings I choose
Jon
Jon
only time I had an issue, was with Gigabyte
02:10
Gigabyte on the otherhand, rock solid for me
Jon
Jon
broken ram slots
haha. reverse odds
Jon
Jon
broken bios
Joe
Joe
lol
Jon
Jon
wouldn't reckognize keyboard
i had to use a PS2 keyboard
to get into bios
Joe
Joe
02:10
seagate for me... nothing but bad disks
yeah Seagate is horribad
Jon
Jon
seagate disks are shit
Western Digital are hit or miss
Joe
Joe
i only use samsung now but thinking about intel might be worth a shot
Jon
Jon
intel are amazing
but you pay for it
my SSDs are Crucial and they're fine. decent price for what my local pc shop stocks
Joe
Joe
02:11
i had some off brand SSDs cuz i was buying like first gen shit
Jon
Jon
Corsair also has amazing customer service
Joe
Joe
and they all failed miserably
:(
Jon
Jon
they replaced my ram once, no questions asked
That's good
Jon
Jon
02:12
let me keep the old stick too
Antec Edge -- I would recommend this power supply if you are looking to get one.
most quiet power supply i have ever owned
 
6 hours later…
user92578
08:00
Morning
Hallo
08:11
So... I've finally sent my game to the local android market.
now it's waiting for approval
nice
user92578
nice!
user92578
user92578
Structures have backgrounds and floors!
user92578
Still have to add roofs and support beams
user92578
08:45
Roofs are in!
user92578
user92578
09:02
user92578
Supports
user92578
Wow 7 people here
user92578
Do people have lives?
user92578
user92578
Horizontal support bars!
user92578
09:15
That concludes the structure brushes!
Lives? I think I'm breathing at least :p
user92578
:D
@Tyyppi_77 people as in the 7 that are still here?
user92578
people as in everyone who are not here
I hope they're breathing too
user92578
09:19
Me too
I'm only here because of my phone
haha
I hope, they are kicking too
just breathing, isn't really a healthy state :P
user92578
I think I'll do some refactoring next
I got life in a cup here while watching expendables
user92578
09:20
haha
user92578
So what's everyone up to?
Coffee and Netflix
gf is making me lunch as well so that's great :)
user92578
nice :D
@Ali.S I dunno, just breathing while having violent spasms also isn't that great
yeah... that's something to consider too...
can we assume coding is a healthy state, for a programmer at least?
09:23
I vote yes!
Otherwise I may need to visit a doctor some more
user92578
I vote mister potato head!
Also no guinea pig, if that bottle doesn't give you water use the other one -,-
Dumb thing
but is it the most basic healthy state?
Mister potato head? No I don't think having bits of face falling off is that healthy actually
user92578
True, but easy replacement of faulty body parts is a big plus
09:58
As long as the developer is healthy as long as he's working on a healthy codebase. Anything else leads to stress and assassination thoughts.
Only to thoughts?
I won't comment on that :P
I can neither confirm nor deny that the burning pile of paper was a bunch of detailed plans
10:15
How js13k going Kevin?
10:34
@KevinvanderVelden
Good I think
I may have to cut out the tutorial text because that's really big
What's your progress?
Well I was working on entities, but then games happeened
Ahh haha what's the gameplay then?
Jon
Jon
I played gta5 till 2am last night
Damn game wouldn't let me save kept getting interrupted
11:13
xD
Jon
Jon
Playing it maxed out. Just saying
:(
My laptop is so outdated i can't even find it on the Internet :D
it's an antique!
must be worth heaps
11:30
amazon.com/HP-14-2070NR-14-5-Inch-Notebook-Processor/dp/… This is it i think, but without the SSD
"Envy"
Jealous? :D
you know it
Jon
Jon
well, considering I wasn't able to play it on the lowest settings just this week
You should be happy for me, haha
@Jon well spent!
Jon
Jon
11:34
3 PCs that I built, in a 7-8 year span between each
build it with quality parts, you don't have to buy new every 4 years
yup. my last cpu+mobo lasted 7 years before I decided to upgrade
upgraded cuz DayZ ran too slowly
Jon
Jon
hehe
i'm super amazed that this proc can overclock no problem by 1Ghz
That is just nuts
Back in the day, we were happy to squeeze an extra 200
speaking of DayZ... might see Dean Hall speak next week at the NZ gamedev conference here
that is a lot heh
Jon
Jon
4.5Ghz :D
damn
that is some crazy
just watch those temps heh
Jon
Jon
11:37
14nm skylakes are good on power
yeah, at load it goes close to 50celcius
idle is 24
seems pretty good to me
although my heatsink is bigger than my subwoofer
in GTA5, if you jump out of a car, and hit a pole, you die instantly
11:49
Gamedev time! :D
Nice floor tiles!
duuuuude
@KevinvanderVelden How many languages do you know?
Jon
Jon
como esta
12:01
@Hjorthenify english and dutch :D
Jon
Jon
I know Franch
@Jon Bien
But the question you probably meant is uuh, javascript, python, c++, c#, php, java
And a bunch I don't know as well
Ooh, also lua
@KevinvanderVelden Cool!
Lua is good to know. Was my first language :D
I learned it for minecraft computercraft
No wait
Jon
Jon
12:03
learning is fun
I learned it to use it in games
Ahh those are fun too! I just hate how the script gets ruined when chunks are unloaded :(
Yeaah that's a nuisance
Yeah
UnityException: You are not allowed to call this function when declaring a variable.
Move it to the line after without a variable declaration.
Wtf is that supposed to mean?
public DeleteParent()
{
    GameObject parent = transform.parent.gameObject;
    if(parent)
       Destroy(parent);
}
user92578
You probably can't do var x = Function();
user92578
12:08
What???
@Hjorthenify properties are function calls
Just with some syntactic sugar
I know, but that should be allowed right?
Should be
Try GameObject parent; parent = transform.parent.gameObject;
See if that fixes it
Also drat, the minified version doesn't show the dude =[
nope now i'm getting it 3x though
12:09
Gonna restart Unity -.-
Ooooooh
Im stupid
Class is called DeleteParent so its a constructor I've created :D
12:34
Has anyone implemented state machines in Unity?
like, something super complex?
Like I have a gameobject which makes stuff spin(needs a timer) and then I have another variable for a timer where some gui stuff fades out
Don't want to use coroutines, but this would be trivial if I didn't need access to transform and other Monobehavoir stuff :P
well then, either create small purpose-built components that handle each of those tasks, or just lump them into one class and just do a bool check to see if they need to be run or not
the latter being inefficient if you think checking a bool is gonna be resource-intensive by however many entities are going to be performing that check
Its only one entity and right now I'm using the latter method :P
Good enough then :)
12:45
I guess, but it just doesn't seem like a nice piece of code :(
iterating through states/enums and checking timers is easy enough
Yeah
>.< I need to download android SDK
honestly, that's all game programming is imo, if statements everywhere in one form or another. if statements and lists lol
:P
Almost done with my cake list generator(yes that is a thing now)
excellent
I want a piece
12:48
Haha it was a challenge from one of my classmates :P
How do I hook the back button on android?
I'm gonna try out this alpha demo: indiedb.com/games/polyrace PolyRace
no idea
Like.. How do I know when its pressed?
I would love to hook into Android's controller input somehow: developer.android.com/training/game-controllers/… since Unity is so picky
Beats me
user92578
Am I the only one that finds that the IDE color theme affects a lot what code looks like, in terms of code style and cleaness?
12:55
Nope
@Hjorthenify heh
@Tyyppi_77 I find it can make things either easier or harder to read, but probably wouldn't affect how I'd still type things
public class DeleteMeIfAndroid : MonoBehaviour {

    // Use this for initialization
#if UNITY_ANDROID
      void Start () {
        Destroy(gameObject);
    }
#endif


}
:D
user92578
lol
user92578
Renaming virtual methods in VS is not the fastest thing in the world
fastest thing is doing nothing
user92578
1.5 mins into a progress bar right now
@OMGtechy How.. Did that ever come on steam?
dunno man but great reviews aha
user92578
13:26
This is...
user92578
"something else"
HTML5 builds on Unity takes forever D:
Pip
Pip
13:43
morning
got it
layout working
now maybe I can get going making the menus
@Jon Ever had luck win Unity's HTML5 builds?
Can't even run a scene consisting of 1 image and 3 panels -.-
14:05
Okay I'm giving up on HTML5 builds
:(
I kind of need those
half the reason I'm using Unity in the first place
hope they fix that shit
You guys realize it's an early release of the functionallity?
I did not
ok
:)
=p
It's a "Here, we're working on this, try it out!" thing last I heard =p
I wonder how long till it's better
it occurs to me I don't understand why my square sizing algo works
14:17
I miiiight have found the issue with HTML5 :D
We'll see
		float itemSize = CanvasRect.width / 5.0f;
		float itemRatio = CanvasRect.width / 640.0f;
		float startY = 0;

		row.transform.SetParent(RootBackgroundObject.transform);
		row.transform.localPosition = new Vector3(0, startY, -1);
		row.transform.localScale = new Vector3(1, 1, 1);

		for(int i = 0; i < 5; i++)
		{
			GameObject item = new GameObject("Item " + i);
			item.transform.SetParent(row.transform);
			item.transform.localPosition = new Vector3(itemSize * i, 0, 0);
			SpriteRenderer renderer = item.AddComponent<SpriteRenderer>();
it looks to me like this would work if the item sprites were sized so that at 640 width, they fit 5 across
but they don't, so I don't see why the itemRatio thing works
:(
I hate when something works and I don't know why
I know I have JDK installed, but I can't remember where.. Any suggestions?
Check your environment variables?
I think there's something there
Do I need 32 bit JDK for Android?
It seems so..
I have no idea
14:54
@Chris Can't get Unity remote to work.. I installed Android SDK and plugged my phone in after a reboot. It asked me if I wanted to allow remote debugging(my phone) but nothing happens when I press play
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Q: How do I exclude all .DS_Store files from Perforce?

AlmoI use the graphic interface in Perforce to set up an exclusion for .DS_Store files: It makes this in the workspace: -//depot/*.DS_Store //almo_SilentMac/*.DS_Store But when I do Reconcile Offline Work, it still comes up with .DS_Store files. What am I doing wrong?

Sooo middle alignment doesn't work on Android for me it seems..
nothing fucking works on android
Jon
Jon
15:18
@Hjorthenify never tried html builds
Alright
@Chris Got it working. Had to start the app before opening Unity
Jon
Jon
The CEO of Dunkin' Donuts, Nigel Travis, notably slammed the movement toward a $15 minimum wage, calling it “outrageous.
This year, he earned about $10.2 million—or about $5,800 per hour—which is twice what he made in 2014.
outrageous.
:(
@Jon How much of an increase would 15$ be?
Jon
Jon
I am in Canada so here it would NE 5$
Thing is middle class wages have not gone up in a long time.
Rich are richer than ever. Off of all of us. This guy makes 6000 an hour. What the fuck.
15:30
What do you do with 6k/min ..
hour *
Jon
Jon
Try to find ways to make more because it's never enough
Gotta fuck everyone over for fast profits
Jon
Jon
15:43
YEAH!!! GET DEPREESSED!!
its hard to get depressed when reading things in all caps
Jon
Jon
NOOOO DO IT! GET DEPRESSED!!!
Can someone here help with apache?
Jon
Jon
yes
Im trying to transfer files using pscp, but it says access denied. I did this: stackoverflow.com/questions/4503492/…
But I'm still getting access denied..
What username do I need to use?
user92578
15:59
Now I need to make the decision on the level file format
Jon
Jon
whaetver user that has access
Woooh fixed it
Had to run a flush command of sorts
user92578
So the decision is going to be between TMX (XML) or a custom XML format... I can already load TMX files, but it doesn't make that much sense to use a Tiled-based file format now that I don't use Tiled anymore... opinions?
user92578
And I suppose it doesn't have to be a custom XML format, but that would probably be the easiest to implement without having to do some annoying custom parsing
@Jon Okay so I uploaded the html and Unity3D file to the server and I can access the html one, but it doesn't load :/
Jon
Jon
16:01
what does it do?
Just stop on the loading screen
Jon
Jon
Unity loading screen?
Yes
Ahh
Might have found the erro
user92578
I think I'll just go the lazy way and do TMX
I think I've found the problem
Yup
Pip
Pip
16:09
@Tyyppi_77 tmx is decent
user92578
Yeah
user92578
It's the easy way out, because I can load that already
Pip
Pip
@Hjorthenify roughly double IIRC
In the US
Jon
Jon
@Pip :D
user92578
Nice
Pip
Pip
16:17
Awesome!
How's it bench?
Jon
Jon
400lbs!
lol, OC to 4.5Ghz no problem
I got it up to 4.8 and it kept shutting down on me
4.5 is super stable.. pretty awesome chip
user92578
I'm starting to have second thoughts
user92578
There's so much stuff that isn't required for me
16:32
@Tyyppi_77 my advice to you is to do stop doing anything that doesn't directly move your game closer to being finished. you can always go back and refactor ugly stuff later when you are done ;)
user92578
Okay, noted, thanks
user92578
16:45
Okay tile writing works
17:14
Dat alt-text
17:54
82.211.212.3/Wb.html weekend project :D
what are you doing
Working on a pathfinder
18:08
Because I need a pathfinder
Because I need that for my AI :P
why do you need ai
Because enemies are much more fun to fight if they actually do stuff and move around
what type of game is it
is it like pokemon
18:13
More like factorio
whats factorio
Look it up
18:29
techies
omgtechy
what are you doing
@OMGtechy what are you doing
Cleaning
cleaning what
Pip
Pip
18:46
cleaning his things that need to be cleaned
hi pip
what are you doing
@Pip nailed it
hello
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