Game Development

Hjorthenify

16:43

@Almo Did u sort that GUI problem?

Almo

it looks like it, for vertical layouts anyway

it fucks up horizontal layouts

because I have to pick canvas scale to width or height

it's possible that I can get away with using just vertical layouts. There aren't many horizontal layouts, and they're for sprites

so I may be able to size those myself

Hjorthenify

Does it look somewhat like this?

Almo

yeah

Cognizer

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my problem is that the horizontal rows in this demo are getting squished on iPhone 5.

since they're just square sprites, the math to set them up manually in a script isn't hard

so I'm going to try querying the aspectfitter to get the current size, then lay out my boxes using that

Hjorthenify

Did you set any spacing in the vertical layout group?

Almo

the youtube vid tehre is from a different engine

Hjorthenify

16:54

Ah cool

Almo

in unity I just stuck one row in, and it failed to scale properly horizontally

the vid was done with SpriteBuilder

But that's iOS only, and my business model requires a web build

so I'm using unity :(

Hjorthenify

Is the scale of the childs set to 1? Any spacing between tiles in Unity?

Oh well

Almo

no spacing set

Hjorthenify

Do you know how to set up Unity Remote for android? Because I connected the stuff and it doesn't work :/

Almo

it looks fine on iphone 4, which has target res

iphone 5 landscape looks fine, because it's wide enough

Hjorthenify

16:55

Strange

Almo

iphone 5 tall however, is too narrow, and the squares get pushed together

I have not used unity remote

Hjorthenify

How do u test for android / Iphone then?

Almo

I don't test android, because I don't have one

I build the full iOS build, and drop it on the phone

Hjorthenify

Ah

Oh looks like I need the android SDK

@Chris Any inputs?

Pip

I have so many projects that I want to work on, all of the time

A ton of the current list are electronics... and electronics are expensive

I also have to write some emails about internships for next summer.... :/

Almo

17:15

P4Connect plugin for unity is really crappy :(

Texture2D tex = Resources.Load<Texture2D>("ButtonCircle");

this is returning null for my image

ButtonCircle.png is in Resources/Images/GameObjects

Resources.Load is supposed to be pretty automatic

Hjorthenify

Needs absolute path from Resources

Almo

I must be doing something silly :(

docs.unity3d.com/ScriptReference/Resources.Load.html

not what the docs say

Hjorthenify

From my experience

Almo

are they wrong again?

Hjorthenify

Probably

Kevin van der Velden

17:23

What... the... hell, with this code: console.log( colorI, (colorI+8)/8, ( (colorI+8)/8 )|0 );

I am getting the following:

Almo

oh wait

My asset isn't in Resources

it's deeper

now unity's crashing :(

Kevin van der Velden

GODDAMNIT JAVASCRIPT

THAT IS A ARRAY INDEX NOT A STRING

I added "colorI+8" to the logging

08, 18, 28, 38, 48, 58...

Almo

colorI is a string?

Kevin van der Velden

It's from for ( var colorI in colors )

Apparently it's a string

Lokkij

Eula Surfers: Big Pharma, Party Hard, Flywrench

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More video game stuff from Quinns!

Almo

17:27

Texture2D tex = Resources.Load<Texture2D>("Images/GameObjects/ButtonCircle");

still null

@Hjorthenify ok I was being a dork. fixed.

Hjorthenify

@Almo Wait no path is required? :o

Almo

path, but not from Assets

Texture2D tex = Resources.Load<Texture2D>("Images/GameObjects/GridButtons/ButtonCircle");

forgot there was another layer in there

Hjorthenify

Ahh

I hate how a button needs a child text objects instead of just a text component -.-

Almo

heheh yeah

Hjorthenify

Seems like such a silly design decision

@Almo How would I handle different menues? Different scenes or?

Almo

17:38

dpeends

I want my scrolling background behind all menus

So I'm parenting each menu to a game object, and will make only the one currently active visible

but scene per menu can work well, too

I think that's less work, ultimately, since you don't really have to manage what's visible or not; just load the next scene

Hjorthenify

Yeah

And then just have one gameobject which stores the settings

Or.. I could just write to a file

All I need is a list of names

Almo

Plaster - Intersection

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really good. chilled, but sharp.

:(

can't get the sprite sizes locations right

Hjorthenify

17:56

:(

Kevin van der Velden

Aaaaaaaaaaaah. I had a brilliant idea! Use smileys to convey the moods of guards and what not

It's not working that well =[

Hjorthenify

Auto generated?

Kevin van der Velden

The smileys are just unicode smileys

But yeah, everything on that sheet is generated on load

(Because the sheet itself is already 10 times the maximum size)

Hjorthenify

Is that allowed? :P

Kevin van der Velden

Are you allowed to use text? I hope so =p

Are you allowed to procedurally generate images: You're encouraged to

Hmm I could just use "◕︵◕"

Hjorthenify

18:09

Do the table flip thing too!

Kevin van der Velden

That won't be visible probably, too small

But I've got X_X for stunned and zzzZZ for sleeping

Hjorthenify

Nice :P

Kevin van der Velden

The 2 squares were emoticons for really happy, but I don't need those

Almo

unity crashing whenever i try to debug

I'm guessing it's the P4 plugin

MickLH

i've been working on my custom power supply a lot... it should be able to do small welds without the computer rebooting

i have a crazy idea to sell it to overclockers as a way over engineered supply that can handle serious abuse

i was thinking of maybe jump starting a car while gaming, or dropping a crowbar across the +12v to show that it survives and doesn't kill the pc

but I need to get it smaller, it doesn't fit into an ATX psu box, it's more like 3x that size

Pip

18:45

smaller is usually better

only in terms of electronics

Kevin van der Velden

I have a main menu! And it is functional :D

Pip

nice!

I should be doing homework... but I'm not

I have until.. Tuesday

to do a ton

meh

Kevin van der Velden

Let's see, the new thought bubbles and the new menu system is a total of 300 new kb

Uuh correction, 700kb apparently =[

(Forgot to add in the new html files)

Hmm or it hadn't updated properly

Oooor I messed up again, yeah that those extra bytes are the new html files

Almo

unity: I create an empty gameobject in the editor, it has a RectTransform. I create one in code, it doesn't.

what's goin on with that

Kevin van der Velden

The editor has a bunch of "You're probably going to need this" while the code doesn't make such assumptions?

Almo

18:57

probably

all I'm trying to do is put an object anchored to the corner, then attach 5 square sprites to it so they are right next to each other, and take up the full width of the screen

changing resolutions from iP4 to iP5 fucks it up

been about 3 hours on doing this part now

Joe

19:32

@Eray you got that sorted out?

sorry it was just getting a bit off topic / conversational for a typical Q&A

more than happy to chat here, but id rather not on the post

i guess he does

Eray

Hey :)

Sorry for delay

I fixed it with your last edit

Not it's repeating until filling the quad

Now I have to calculate tiling values because I just type 10 to test it :)

Joe

exactly, also if you start moving the camera around you could modify the offset

and give it the appearance of motion right?

i dont know if your game is going to do that, but its a possibility

Eray

No it will be static

Joe

and much more performant than having 700 thousand game objects :D

Eray

Think like sims

Joe

19:39

got it

Eray

there will be 50x50 tiles and quad scale is 100x50

opps no no nevermind the last message :D

calculation mistake

Joe i'm confused :D can you help?

quad will be 100x50

(in unity units)

Kevin van der Velden

I've uploaded a new version of the WIP game: 83.87.185.61

Eray

tile size is 32x32

Kevin van der Velden

Still todo: Actual gameplay

Eray

pixels

Joe

19:44

@Eray somewhere i need to find where the image import lets you set pixels per unit

and i dont have unity on this machine right now

Eray

@Joe , texture type not allowing to changing pixels per unit. But if I set it as sprite, i can change that setting

Joe

that might be it, set that to 32

Pip

@KevinvanderVelden what byte count you at?

Joe

and now you can scale your quad, and scale your tiling appropriately

Kevin van der Velden

@Pip 9614 with full tutorial, about 8k without

Pip

19:46

nice

Eray

@Joe I'll just play with tiling values until it looks nice :)

Kevin van der Velden

(Seriously, 4176 bytes uncompressed for the tutorial text, there's also a bunch for updating the images)

Pip

that's pretty crazy

Eray

One last question @Joe , as we said, we can change pixels per unit value for sprites. But not possible to change in texture type. So it's equals to 32 as default?

Joe

im not sure on that one actually man let me look into it

my bad so that shouldnt have an effect here if i get this

Kevin van der Velden

19:53

@Pip btw, what do you think of the background of the menu?

Joe

if you get the math right on the tiling and the quad size... its going to automatically scale to 1:1

Kevin van der Velden

Not bad for a 64x64 sprite right? :D

Pip

:D

yeah it looks pretty good

subtle though

Joe

@KevinvanderVelden I was going to say... all that text... could be FEATURES!

Eray

@Joe thank you for you all assist :)

Kevin van der Velden

19:54

It's actually the same as the walls, except for the blue stripe

Joe

@Eray no problem good luck man!

Kevin van der Velden

@Joe they just might be. I can always replace it with a link to the full documentation

Joe

identify every word used more than once... set a js variable for the long ones var z = "sassifrass";

then assemble a string in memory :D var text = Z + Z + Z;

Kevin van der Velden

pastebin.com/nmcVALvb

A quick list of the words, sorted by occurrence

I doubt your proposal will save any bytes, especially considering I'm already zipping the thing =p

Almo

I could be the drummer for the White Stripes.

His ex-wife just isn't a very good drummer.

first thing I notice when I hear Jack White's solo stuff: "Woa... good drummer"

Kevin van der Velden

20:01

@Joe what might potentially work is, since there are only 73 unique characters used, I could stuff 2 characters in a byte

Almo

if you like optimizing so much you should play TIS-100

Joe

maybe "word" should be replaced with "sequence"

lol nah im just talking BS haha

Almo

I'm really stumped on how to make some of them faster or with fewer instructions

Joe

i want to buy that though

Kevin van der Velden

@Almo Someone has set me a challenge, to make a game in under 13k bytes. I will exploit every byte I can

Joe

20:02

but since HOTS i have 1 too many games already

Almo

@KevinvanderVelden yeah do it man :)

but TIS is a good filler. work on it 10 15 min at a time

Joe

GIT on WINDOWS WTF!? windows has a maximum file name length

which stops me from pulling a repository with git

that has directories nested too deep

Kevin van der Velden

Aah fun times

Joe

this is insane

OMGtechy

So I have my CppCon topic, the dangers of C-style casts

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Kevin van der Velden

20:07

Not a bad topic I'd say

Pip

@OMGtechy you presenting?

OMGtechy

the peeps running cppcon seem to like it so that's good enough for me aha

@Pip yeah

Pip

@Joe yes. this is a true pain in the ass

@OMGtechy nice!

OMGtechy

ikr :D

Hjorthenify

@OMGtechy Go Techy!

OMGtechy

20:09

Presenting at the largest C++ conference in the world alongside some of the best programmers in the world, no pressure right?

Hjorthenify

yeah you'll be fine. They can't be worse than us :P

OMGtechy

It'll all be dwarfed by one of the other talks we (my team at work) have, watch this space ;D

Joe

thats what i call learning experience, i guarantee if you care the appropriate amount about this... you are going to know the crap out of what you are speaking about

best way to learn something... is to be forced to teach it haha

OMGtechy

which is exactly why I have my blog aha

Pip

heh

Hjorthenify

20:12

@OMGtechy Got a blog?

Pip

I still need to make one of those.... I was promised a domain name by someone (my father) but that never happened... I want to set up a DO droplet to host a web server among other things

OMGtechy

@Hjorthenify joshuagerrard.info

Pip

Basically a blog, my reprap thing so I can start printing from anywhere

Kevin van der Velden

I'm working on a blog as well :o

Hjorthenify

Bookmarked :)

Pip

20:12

a ruby on rails api server thing

some other stuff

OMGtechy

@Hjorthenify :D

you can sub too, although I admit it's non-obvious how ot

Hjorthenify

RSS?

Pip

What happened to your streak, Techy?

OMGtechy

ooo the subscriber plugin is broken, oops

Pip

Every month until.... july

then nothing

Come on, I expect more

OMGtechy

20:14

@Pip working on some top secret stuff at work :P

which is going to be presented at CppCon and will blow your mind

Pip

Doesn't mean you shouldn't come up with posts!

OMGtechy

aha well I have a backlog of topics to write about, maybe I should do one today :P

Pip

:D

OMGtechy

in fact, I could do what I'm going to talk about at CppCon as a warm up

Pip

Sounds good

Meanwhile, I need to either do homework (that's what I SHOULD be doing.....) or work on this RasPi project (which..... is not important until I get my 3d printer....) or..... yeah

SO MANY PROJECTS

OMGtechy

20:16

you'll get used to it :P

it only gets worse

Joe

homework it up bruh

Pip

Alright, music and homework it is

Joe

id trade work work for home work any day of the week :D

Pip

:D

I've had so many project ideas this week..... nothing that I could do without some hardware though :/

Hjorthenify

@Omgtechy will your presentation be available anywhere?

OMGtechy

20:20

@Hjorthenify youtube on the CppCon channel

Hjorthenify

Cool

OMGtechy

now I've got to tell them how long it'll be, the choices are 5 minutes or 15 minutes

(they have these things called lightning talks)

I've gotta work out how long I need, because short might make it "short and sweet" packed full of content, whilst 15 minutes would give me room to breathe

Pip

God damnit I'm buying so much stuff from Adafruit

they have such good documentation it's hard not to pay a few extra bucks for it

Joe

@OMGtechy if i learned anything from speaking... build 5 minutes more than you think your going to need... option extra cool stuff

and "test" your talk with a live audience if you can

OMGtechy

Yeah I've done longer talks before, I actually find shorter ones harder

Joe

20:23

realtime full scale if you have any gaps they may become obvious

OMGtechy

I have a c developer meeting that I can test it at which is nice

Joe

perfect

Pip

Now why the fuck did I need to build a RasPi access point?

Can you think of any uses for that? :/

OMGtechy

just cus

and ... as an access point? :P

Pip

Well duh... I have one 5 feet from me though :/

Why did I think this was an idea worth spending time on?

OMGtechy

20:25

because!

Kevin van der Velden

@Pip so you can have a guest network dedicated to cats! <- link

Pip

haha nice

oh god that one uses iptables

not touching

Kevin van der Velden

every such thing uses iptables because that's the bloody firewall =p

Pip

hostapd is a nice daemon that will do a similar thing for me instead

probably does iptables things behind-the-scenes

but I'm not touching it personally

I've fucked it up bad before

Kevin van der Velden

It uses iptables to redirect traffic on port 80 to the squid server

That's what allows you to redirect images to cats

Pip

20:31

yep

Kevin van der Velden

Also, iptables doesn't persist on boot

Pip

oh really.

I spent like an hour and a half reimaging my pi after that

Kevin van der Velden

So what you do before changing the rules is say open a second shell with sudo screen and go "sleep 5m; restart"

@Pip oh, oops =p

Pip

yeah :/

OMGtechy

screen <3

Kevin van der Velden

20:34

What you usually do is make an init script that sets the commands when you're done testing them

Pip

Ooh this is so cool

learn.adafruit.com/raspberry-pi-as-an-ad-blocking-access-point

Kevin van der Velden

Yeah that's cool

Anyway I am off to bed

\o

Pip

Night

Hjorthenify

NameTagLabelEditor.transform.FindChild("Text").GetComponent<UnityEngine.UI.Text>‌().text = transform.FindChild("Text").GetComponent<UnityEngine.UI.Text>().text;

OMGtechy

I really want to get this talk into 5 minutes, I jsut need to reassure myself that I can do that

Hjorthenify

20:47

Its so silly that you cant access the text of the button from its gameobject..

OMGtechy

@Hjorthenify well, you don't that it's a button if it's a gameobject

Pip

Agreed

However

that's horrible code

this.FindChildOfType<UnityEngine.UI.Text>().text = .....

IIRC

Hjorthenify

@Pip I'm prototyping, leave me alone! :P

@OMGtechy True. But then again they could just inherit from button or w/e when adding a script to a button

@Pip Also that would break some of the code because input fields has two childs with a text component

TheMuffinCoder

@Chris thx Chris! :D lol i was doing that before with Unity but got side tracked with js13k :P

@AidanMueller Lol it was pigart that inspired me to do low poly, I loved how he made all those worlds with low poly yet complex models :D

OMGtechy

Just wrote an example that causes stack corruption using c style casts that you can't get with C++ casts unless you're a moron

I shall use this in my talk!

Hjorthenify

20:58

Code or it didn't happen!

Pip

@Hjorthenify GetChildrenOfType<typename>()?

@Hjorthenify also... nooo.... it would return the first one it finds

Hjorthenify

Yeah since two children have the text component that wont work

First one is the placeholder, which isn't the one I want

Code doesn't work though -.- the inputfield is blank when added to the scene. I can modify the placeholder without problems though.

OMGtechy

YOLO, gunna tell them I only need 5 minutes for my talk

I've managed to fit in 3 examples of where c style casts RuinEverything™ so I think that's enough to hammer the point home

Hjorthenify

Ooooh... Its not a text component, but an input field and yet it gives me a text component! Ugghh...

Pip

lol

OMGtechy

21:04

@Hjorthenify almost as bad as a c style cast!

Hjorthenify

Finally something which I can actually access the text from by doing .text D:

@OMGtechy void * str = (void*)arr;

OMGtechy

die.

Hjorthenify

>:D

Ali.S

@MickLH I'm pretty sure you still don't get what I was talking about... but it seriously doesn't matter.

TheMuffinCoder

22:29

echo "The last message was posted 1 hour ago." echo... echo.... echo......

Pip

22:41

lol

Chris

@Hjorthenify What's up? what's happening?

Almo

late in TIS-100: read values from In.A and In.B. divide A by B. write quotient to Out.Q and remainder to out.R

There's a sort, too

never wrote a sort in ASM before...

MickLH

23:17

@Ali.S I'll cut straight to the ad hominem, you live where you live and have the skill level you do

Almo

Don't we all!?!?

TheMuffinCoder

23:37

moondoge.co.in/?ref=b804f2466dda

I love this dogecoin faucet

All i have to do is leave it as a tab open and I get dogecoins :D

MickLH

23:57

@Ali.S I'm sorry I can't just let you be wrong and happy, but this is barely even the first step to solving the problem.

However confident you are about this topic, use that value to adjust yourself...

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