@OMGtechy this stuff is fucking madness man

I'm going back to Grub if I don't figure this out in like 10 mins

whoo I've chrooted into arch

now to figure out how the fuck I set up gummiboot

welp

I'm giving up

Reinstalling!

@OMGtechy what DE do you use?

..

...

?

>:(

FUCK YES IT ACTUALLY WORKED THIS TIME

I have to explicitly open up grub still

but it's progress

holy fucking crap configuring internet connections from tty is hard when you've never done it before

I thought I knew how to do it... but apparently I had to restart the fucking service to get my changes to take effect

fuck me

Anyway, just have to let my DE finish installing (installing KDE Plasma 5), then I'm done

okay, okay

holy crap gpg keys are a pain in the ass

the root problem turned out to be that I didn't have a home directory

so the key manager config was fucking itself up

it finally fucking worked

.

..

...

oh fuck why

now it's not entering the DE

the DM works fine up until the point at which I log in

and the it just.... does nothing

I hit enter to log in

That's sad. :(

and it just changes my cursor to an X, and does nothing

clicking does nothing

:(

Bad for you.:)

this needs to fucking work I have work tomorrow

fuck

Do you work?

It's not really work, I'm meeting with my mentor to work on a project

How old are you?

15

I'm 14.

I think I was.... 13 or so when I first joined the chat room here

Me too. I joined last week. When I was 13.

I was apparently.... a bit annoying to say the least

That was 2 years ago.

When did you started coding?

When I was.... 8 or 9?

._.

I started last year.

Is it possible that my laptop's membrane computer is holding me back? I am finally at 90 but I feel like I am starting to plateau.

*keyboard

Unboxings are kind of dumb.

@Pip xfce :) normally i go with openbox but i cba with all the configuration

@AidanMueller 90 what?

@OMGtechy WPM.

I just can't seem to get faster. It's annoying.

\o

@KevinvanderVelden I perceive your gestures towards me as deeply unfriendly, and would appreciate if you made the effort to communicate more explicitly in the future.

In my heap tree. To make it a max tree or min tree should I add a virtual function and then override that from MaxHeapTree and MinHeapTree or should I add a delegate and then make the user able to select the kind in the constructor?

I leaning towards the first approach, but I want to hear your opinions

i think you're exercising over-analysis in a vague field

amazing, that was a message from something completely else, glad my clipboard was safe

Yeah probably :P I ended up with the virtual function approach

There's something about writing BinaryMaxHeap

lol i guess it could kinda apply for your question

its not that vague but still I think the application itself would lead to a simple decision

Yeah

Currently testing 10.000.000 elements for the gigs

Takes quite a while -.-

I just blew up my computer working it to death

@Hjorthenify I can't imagine why =p

and it's almost 4am, i can't get a 1000 watt power supply anywhere around at this hour

I wonder if there's any appreciable speed difference between hardcoding it and a virtual function

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah.. Its singlethreaded and not optimized for huge arrays as it uses bubble sort :P

@KevinvanderVelden doubt it

The jitter probably optimizes the virtual call out since I never access the base class

Oh C#? Yeah doubt it then

Yeah

I wish someone would ever answer one of my questions for once

@KevinvanderVelden Surpassed the size of an int so it never stopped running for some reason :D

@Hjorthenify oh uuh yeah that'll happen

Oopsie

xD

Why would you want to do that? =p

No idea

Download windows 10 and make a boot usb?

That, I would never trust upgrading windows. Heck I don't trust it to stay stable without changing massive parts of the OS

Try to boot into windows 10 safe moe?

mode?

What windows version do you have installed?

Ah it should automatically ask you then

Or you can download windows 10 update file and ask it to update

microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Just do an in-place upgrade

:D

No

It doesn't

@OMGtechy alright, cool. I finally just got gnome to work but apparently now I'm missing every file that's supposed to be in /etc/skel.... so.... yeah

owait nvm

I am an idiot..... ls does not reveal dotfiles

...

ls -lah ftw

what does the h do?

what does that even do?

I use ls -la all the time, but I've never used the h flag

Human readable

oh cool

i.e. it shows the size in kilo/mega/gigabytes instead of in bytes

I'll have to try that

What's a standard login manager thing?

Define login manager thing? As in keepass or the like?

as in a DM

nevermind, I have GDM installed. I'll use that

eyy it worked

yes

I mean, it's GNOME.... so that means I want something different

but at least I have a working system after..... 10 hours or so

@KevinvanderVelden you running linux atm?

In a vm at home

Not at work

Thanks, nevermind then

@Hjorthenify are you?

(And on a raspi I suppose)

@Pip On my PI

huh... okay then

I'm looking for a pic of a desktop configuration

@AidanMueller or @OMGtechy ?

I can help you with win10, but not so much Linux as I haven't used anything besides ubuntu and raspberian

Fair enough

@OMGtechy btw, I got Gummiboot to work. It's pretty nice

Is there any std function in c++ which measures if value is in the interval?

Like if(std::is_value_between(x, 0.1f, 0.2f)) { ... }

Yes

if(0.1f < x && x < 0.2f)

@Tyyppi_77 too ugly

there will be a lot of such checks in my code

that's what there is

^

Yeah

^

@JesusChrist stackoverflow.com/questions/9255887/…

Neato

I'm glad its not a part of the standard though :P

:)

How is this coordinate system called where point coordinate determined by angles and radius vector?

Polar coords, yep. googled)

Btw, is there any faster way to calculate hypotenuse besides calculating square root of two cathetus each powered by two?

@Pip wha?

not sure what you mean by that

It works 0.1% of the time

can't read that shit

@Jon hahahahaha

hahah

good morning gdse

@Almo Abathur is interesting, he either makes a good team great, or a bad team horrible

he exacerbates the situation lol

QA Engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 999999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a sfdeljknesv.

hahaha yeah, abathur is tricky

@Tyyppi_77 How good do they write about me?

Do they cover both negative and positive sides of my personality?

Abathur is pretty cool

OOO Movement on Awesomium Release 1.7.5 awesomium.com/blog/awesomium-1-7-5 confirm "upcoming" 64bit support, mentions of .Net support hinting at Unity Compatability

Please Please please make this happen Awesomium ^

Sweet!

hmm the post is old but popped up on my stream because of comment activity

looks awesome^

that happens to me a lot also, fear something is more difficult than it actually is, prevents me from trying it

or at least stalls me out

I have the opposite problem. :/

"This sounds like a nice, easy idea .... three weeks later Aaaarrrrrrgh...."

haha yea i get that too

rarely is it "lets try this" 5 minutes later "done"

i started using trello a lot more

and implemented a "backlog", and i try and keep myself from blazing a trail thats not on trello

if i like an idea I try to write it down compare it to the others and if it really fits in try and work it out then

Like, the time when I wanted to procedurally generate a medieval village. Half a year later, I still have no idea how to deal with remaining issues, most of them under the heading "Why is the population distribution after 50 years of simulation not the same as at the start, given the same amount of people living there?"

but if i dont have an immediate "target goal / definition of done" i dont get things done

@Tyyppi_77 yea you need to have a "MAYBE" and a "DO IT NOWH!"

true

if your getting stuff done, dont change it

i wasnt so i moved to increase my organization

@Joe trello is such a good tool

lol

@Tyyppi_77 bfxr.net

@MartinSojka you could use a PID control to control environment "advantages", to maintain a given population distribution

Any of you ninjas know how to reset video refresh rate via file access :)

?

I do not

@MickLH I'd prefer it to be different: To have an "initial generation" produce roughly the same result as a quick simulation of things like family unit creation, reproductive cycle and random death due to old age, accidents and diseases. Even roughly in the same ballpark, really; this way the following simulation will be guaranteed to follow the attractor instead of creating values totally off the charts.

@helena4 install gentoo

Right now, it looks like I'll just have to live with needing to simulate at least three to four generations and throw out any results where the last generation doesn't resemble the last one (because that's a sign of me being too far from the attractor).

I find it hilarious that people are downgrading to Vista to avoid the telemetry in windows 7, 8 and 10

Honeybunch i find it hilarious people hold on to notions of privacy in a mass closed source code culture

A) Old software = your data leaks via exploits

@Honeybunch haha really

I just permanently moved over to Arch

B) new software, your data is more and more streamlined to leak on demand

Windows is still installed... I literally have booted it once to check that it worked

And I also find it hilarious when people insist linux can be a user environment

reallly linux is that hard on you?

I just installed Dota 2 last night on Arch and I only plan to go back to windows for the DX work I need to do for school

it runs just fine

so does CS:GO

@MickLH its simply not convenient, setting up dev environment is a happy place,

tweaking user shit is a pain in the ass

Or just install Cinnamon and never change anything

I've noticed with computer illiterate people, setting them up with something like Ubuntu gets them happy and quiet much much faster than anything else

I use Atom with a clang linter and compile in the terminal and it's a blast. I don't miss VS very much

Helping them get mac or windows installed has always led to them needing my help again in the long run

@MickLH may be true... I just think shoving a command line on GUI breast fed population is a no go.

@Honeybunch good to know, I haven't tried Dota on Linux yet

@Pip You may need to purge the old GL libs that steam bundles but that's a well documented command on the arch wiki

@MickLH ofc windows is set to self destruct as usual. And they can do less damage to linux based on their windows behavior

I think having the command line way over there, hidden off in the distance, was never a problem for windows.

@helena4 That's why most modern distros have a graphical package manager as well as robust file browsers and text editors

So I consider it asinine to claim that simply having a CLI available somehow impairs GUI access

the terminal is also hella comfy

I'm talking grandmas here, I've had to switch grandmas from Mac to Ubuntu, purely and only because the Mac was too difficult to use

@MickLH unless you account for the average user level being more or less asinine any way ...

In the last few years, I don't even configure it for them

@MickLH look at it this way, an intelligent user can probably get comfortable on a linux in a month. Hardly 5% of all users would want to spend 10 minutes adjusting to something they don't have to.

Years ago I used to configure graphics and wifi for them, to make it 100% easy, zero minute transition

thats pretty much how a marketer would pitch it

But now that those work out of the box, it's automatically an instant install

Insert CD, done, you're trying it

Click to make permanent if you're comfy

are you having linux issues today ;)

no, i havent visited in quite some time

but i can appreciate how fast people setup apache and php :)

two command lines - boom - go ...

win .... find on web, find version you want, find version compatible with the other thing. Find it compiled with the same library...

prgfgajsfah

oh oh

uuuh go configure a bunch of crap in various config files across both softwares

and then may be go :)

unless some of the manuals forgot to mention a step :P

@MartinSojka maybe your attractor is just strange?

but from what i heard, win 10 and forward are going to approach it from the appstore concept

where you could access repositories that just damn work on your machine

yeah as long as I don't have to deal with that I'm happy

@MickLH Then I need to modify my simulation so it isn't so. Typical medieval human communities were relatively stable for dozens of generations.

@Honeybunch yep! I've installed Steam on Linux before, just not on Arch. It should be much the same process

@Almo have you got any experience with Building / Exporting Unity to Flash for web? ive looked at a few plugins that try to do this... Idk if its still legit

I'll totally cut off windows support on everything I run if microsoft puts a single silly rule on the app store lol

perhaps its a 50/50 kind of thing, it may be handled well. like the increased driver support we saw after XP.

or they could burn it to the ground like IE, cuz they are too busy playing important to notice the world changing around them.

@MartinSojka I am suspicious because the more I think about it, the more I get the idea that maybe it really is, and just moves so slowly that it appears to follow stable trends for long periods of time

@MickLH hows linux gaming these days? Most games don't run?

... in which case a one-generation difference should produce only little change, thus leading me to accepting the result.

I would intuitively think that the fitness of any one agent is determined by the interaction with the rest of the population

@MartinSojka so sin(x) = x for small values of x lol?

@MickLH df(x)/dx < epsilon, rather.

I had wanted to imply that my intuition feels you're trying to pull something roughly monotonic out of something roughly periodic :P

it's an interesting problem, wish more questions would be stuff like that

Basically, one generation should almost never produce significant changes in important values like age distribution, wealth distribution, profession distribution, percentage of people in marriage, percentage of children born out of wedlock, gender distribution and so on.

The trick is to find a value for "almost never" where I don't accidentally deem unusual, but possible and interesting results as "wrong" and reject them.

I'd say it comes down to opinion here: Is rejection sampling or control action more desirable

I'm glad your rejection sampling approach is working, I just brought up control action because you commented about having troubles with it

Sorry for offering a time-proven technique when you brought up an interesting problem

The thing is, I don't want to control the simulation; I want it to be stable under "undisturbed" circumstances (basically, a secluded village somewhere at the end of the world, with only the occasional genetic exchange with neighbours), then see if it breaks down in "interesting" ways when adding disturbance.

@Lokkij nah... mine is cooler, by far!

just what is your parser parsing?

parseExpression :: [Token] -> Expression
parseExpression (lhs : BinOpTok op : rhs) = BinOpExpr (parseOperator op) (parseExpression [lhs]) (parseExpression rhs)
parseExpression [IdentTok x] = IdentExpr x
parseExpression [IntTok x] = IntExpr x
parseExpression x = error ("Invalid input: " ++ show x)

^ That's mine. :P

@Lokkij what language is that?

Haskell

and what can it parse?

Very simply expressions: 4 - 6 * 8 is about the most it can handle

I don't see how rejection sampling is any less prone to data "cherry picking", whereas with environmental factor control I can explain it as accounting for the intelligence of humans combined with the overall trend of the environment, and thus defend the validity of the simulation with the notion that it just needed the environment's response to supply and demand normalized

but I rather get off this topic, I'm sick of people getting defensive about their code because it already half-works and they are so happy with that, or for whatever reason can't discuss any other idea without contrasting it defensively to their existing implementation

@Lokkij with respect to operator precedence?

Yep!

Well.. that's fixed afterwards

fixPrecedence :: Expression -> Expression
fixPrecedence (BinOpExpr op lhs (BinOpExpr op2 lhs2 rhs2))
  | op > op2  = BinOpExpr op2 (fixPrecedence rhs2) (fixPrecedence (BinOpExpr op lhs lhs2))
  | otherwise = BinOpExpr op  (fixPrecedence lhs)  (fixPrecedence (BinOpExpr op2 lhs2 rhs2))
fixPrecedence x = x

I mean does it really make a difference if I input "2 + 3 * 4" or "4 * 3 + 2"

If you define the final parsing function as fixPrecendence . parseExpression it takes precedence into account