Game Development

Mutch95

00:32

@AidanMueller could be go's cloths

Blue Bug

00:45

Ellen Pao sings "Why Don't You Go Over to Voat?" (Music by Keane)

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Reddit revolt grows.

Icy Defiance

nah that one was made after the FPH ban

Blue Bug

TBH I don't know much about all this reddit dramas, but I just thought the video was hilarious.

TheMuffinCoder

@BlueBug Lmao the comments on that, "Her face looks like a potato. I like potatoes. Now potatoes are ruined for me forever. WHY? WHY ELLEN PAO? WHY DID YOU RUIN POTATOES FOR ME?"

I love this tutorial! raywenderlich.com/70610/… too bad its written in Objective-C ; - ;

Mutch95

01:00

Fuck yeah!

Blue Bug

height map?

Mutch95

diamond square algorithm

midpoint displacement

taken me 2 days to implement

TheMuffinCoder

ooo pretty

Mutch95

Almo

03:07

@SpartanDonut could use an upvote

boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/…

Jovito

03:25

@IcyDefiance What kind of data structure your scene manage manipulates? Is it just a stack? Or do you have extra functions to remove scenes at arbitrary indexes?

Icy Defiance

don't remember...I think it was just a stack

Jovito

@IcyDefiance So the head scene couldn't remove or pop a lower one?

Icy Defiance

it could if it said pop enough times before the update function ended

though the ping you sent me before, about the object not existing anymore, that one is interesting...

I'm not sure if the event that fired the update function would keep a reference to it after being popped

if not, there could be a race condition between the garbage collector and the end of the update function

but if it does keep a reference, it would keep it until the update function ends, which is more what I expected

Jovito

03:41

But that would imply that the scene would have to pop itself before it could pop lower ones, since its higher on the stack, right?

I don't see how this is possible with a strict stack.

@MLM Want to jump in? What kind of data strucutre would allow a node to pop any another node from the list, or to insert a node anywhere in the list and also mantain references to both the lower (previous) and upper (next) nodes in each node?

Almo

"pop any other node from the list" implies it's not a "pop" but something else.

"pop" means "take off the top one"

Jovito

You're right, I meant 'remove'.

Almo

ok just makin sure :)

Jovito

@Almo Any guesses?

Icy Defiance

04:08

see, in C# there are two references to the object that is attempting to pop itself

one is the stack itself, and the other is the "event" that is calling the Update function in that object

when it pops itself, it's removed from the stack and from the event...but the event is kind of a black box and I have no idea what happens if the event loses an object while it's in the middle of calling a function...

Jovito

what's this event?

Icy Defiance

a C# event is basically just a list of functions that you can call and it loops through all those functions. but it's a language feature and not really that simple. shit gets weird there.

now, if the event doesn't retain a reference to the object, even though the object's Update function is still running, then the object becomes "eligible for garbage collection", not deleted right away. garbage collector is unpredictable, who knows when it'll actually delete the object.

so the update function would keep running until the garbage collector deleted it

which is known as a race condition and it's really bad. if I actually did that then fuck me, lol.

Jovito

Right, just keeping a refence in the pop method of the manager held the scene long enough to enable it to push another scene.

Icy Defiance

on the other hand, if the event does keep a reference until the update function ends, then there's nothing to worry about. the object won't be eligible for garbage collection until it's done doing its thing.

Jovito

@Icy But the manager would need to drop the reference at some point, right? Would that be calling a clear() on the next push() or add() ?

Icy Defiance

04:17

no clear would delete everything from the stack

the reference would be held by the event, not the manager, in my case

you...probably shouldn't do that, lol

Jovito

the event thing?

By clear() I just meant a function that would clear all temporary references to popped scenes.

Icy Defiance

what you could do is have two stacks, and when something is popped from the main stack, you push it into another "to delete" stack. then at the beginning of each frame you clear the "to delete" stack.

or a stack and a "to delete" list. shouldn't really matter.

Jovito

Yeah, that's what I thought. Let me clarify what my problem(s) is(are).

1) Say I have Scene A, B and C. Scene A pushes Scene B into the stack, and Scene B pushes Scene C into the stack. Now, if Scene C needs to remove Scene A from the stack it could only do that by popping B as well, and I don't want that (in this case). So how would you remove Scene A from Scene C without popping Scene B in the process?

Icy Defiance

with a stack, you don't :D

you could use a list instead and do whatever you want. make up a new "DestroyScene" function or something.

Jovito

Right, that's why I was asking about what data structure would be best suited to this.

2) Had to do with Scene B needing to make a decision based on which scene was Scene A, but I think I could just pass whatever scene to Scene B and work with that.

Vincent Williams

04:41

wow bounties use a ton of rep

i wish you could do like 10 rep bounties

Blue Bug

05:03

What's the point of 10 rep bounties? If you are gona have a bounty, it should be of meaningful amount for putting the bounty for other people.

Add 200, 300, 500 bounties. I will do the research and study for you to provide the best answer possible I can for the bounty.

10 rep bounties? Pewshhhh. Whatever.

user92578

06:00

Morning

Chris

06:33

Ahoy

user92578

07:04

Hmm, I've been thinking about making the grass shorter in GunHero

user92578

It really covers up too much of the player

user92578

What do you think? I kinda like it:

user92578

I really like it, you can now actually see the derpyish walk animation

Mutch95

some points are acting weird

but its mostly working

user92578

07:12

Looks interesting. What are you working on?

Mutch95

procedurally generated terrain

I've been playing a lot of rust lately and by a lot i mean like 100hours a week haha..

so i thought heck i might try a procedural survival myself

points like this

and they always appear in the same spot

user92578

07:28

I just found out that a[5] is equal to 5[a] in C

user92578

Really interesting

Lasse

08:02

yeah and if you use it it will confuse the hell out of anyone who reads your code

user92578

Yeah!

Lasse

yourself included if you read it after a couple of months

user92578

I've got my brother's confirmation ceremony within an hour

user92578

Can't wait to spend time in a super hot church!

user92578

Also feeling a little under-dressed because I don't own a suit

Lasse

08:10

hey it's your brother, you don't need a suit. brofist will do

user92578

haha

Mutch95

hahaha

user92578

hahahaha

user92578

I gotta leave now

Jon

12:26

sup people

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Q: What is a game mechanic?

I am trying to understand exactly what defines a game mechanic, and whether it is the same as a gameplay mechanic. There are many different sources online that try to define this but they appear to be quite inconsistent. Two that go into quite a bit of depth are below: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

When I see shit like this... and a 20K+ user answers with this lenghty spew of bullshit

Do you even code bro?

Pip

12:52

Morning GDSE

TheMuffinCoder

13:31

Buenos dias muchachas!

@Jon i actually found it be to helpful :P

TheMuffinCoder

13:59

Good morning @Dev2rights ! :D

Dev2rights

Afternoon

TheMuffinCoder

lol where i am its morning xD

Dev2rights

A fresh day

TheMuffinCoder

Yep :D right to Unity

starts coding furiously

Dev2rights

ive been breaking poorly coded APIs and now having to finish a website

really want to get back to the game im working on

at least the level webservice

TheMuffinCoder

14:00

Do both! :D

Work on your game just to motivate yourself then continue on the website

lol the intel website thinks am in russia xD

TheMuffinCoder

14:12

YES found the tutorial using Js heyjavascript.com/generating-caverns-with-cellular-automata

Dev2rights

haha not that simple unfortunatly

user92578

15:13

Annoying relative-overload over

user92578

Now, parachutes

user92578

15:44

That's an in-game screenshot, now all is left is the actual functionality:

user92578

Oh man, I'm really digging this!

user92578

The part where the parachute just disappears when the entity hits the ground is a bit odd

user92578

But otherwise everything seems good

user92578

I wonder if there's anyway I could smooth the disappearing

user92578

15:54

Some crazy animation doesn't really seem that tempting to try

user92578

That gif turned out better than I thought it would

MickLH

oh my god that movement speed

user92578

it's actually not that fast.. I think

user92578

Yeah it's not that fast at all

user92578

16:02

The blade's spinning wayyyyy too fast

user92578

Could have something to do with gifcam

user92578

or gfycat, idk

user92578

What do you Mick think about the disappearing of the parachute?

MickLH

Have a button to "disconnect" that spawns a falling parachute item by itself

And instead of disappearing when you hit the ground, just do the disconnect thing

Then you get a cool physics animation, and a useful ability to ditch the parachute midair, as a buy one get one free

user92578

So the parachute would just fell trough the ground to void?

MickLH

16:08

no I was thinking it would fall to the ground and stay on the ground

as a usable item if it's not damaged

user92578

Oh

user92578

One day I'm going to get into trouble for using the actual collision hitboxes also for querying rendering data

Jon

16:54

one day..

but not today

MickLH

Does anyone know of good paper writing software? I haven't found anything that beats LaTeX yet :/

Joe

@Tyyppi_77 I didnt even notice until you mentioned it

Almo

@MickLH if you're comfortable with latex, I doubt you'll find something you like better

Jon

17:11

i use moleskine

Joe

@Jon i think they are awesome and i have a few... but every-time i want to write something down I think to myself... my ideas are not worthy to go into such a beautiful object and i usually just end up using scrap

Jon

lmao

user92578

17:28

Different colored parachutes for each player would be nice

user92578

But then on the other hand, they're military parachutes

user92578

I doubt the military makes purple parachutes

user92578

Tweaked the graphics a bit:

user92578

17:55

Okay, entering the level is now taken care of

user92578

How about exiting the level?

user92578

BroForce exports the player(s) out in a helicopter you have to jump to to finish the level

user92578

So I guess that's kinda ruled out

user92578

Can't really parachute out of the levels xD

user92578

And I don't want to add jetpacks for that

user92578

17:58

Maybe someday for something else, but not for exiting the level

Pip

18:16

lol

Blue Bug

18:55

man xD the gif is too fast

Aidan Mueller

Why is everybody hating on telltale's minecraft game?

I think it looks cool.

I guess it's all the Minecraft fanboys.

Blue Bug

telltale made a minecraft game?

Minecraft: Story Mode [Minecon 2015 Trailer]

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I don't play minecraft but this looks original and awesome.

Aidan Mueller

@BlueBug Look at the like/dislike bar.

A bunch of fanboys(girls) are insulting it, along with people that have mental conditions.

Calling it "autistic".

Blue Bug

19:11

I don't see any exact sensible context to hate it... I guess it's their blind love for Minecraft that that are basing their hate on.

Pip

@BlueBug interesting....

Blue Bug

Aidan Mueller

@BlueBug I like Minecraft. But I would totally play this game. Well, I don't really know if telltale makes my kind of games, but you know what I mean.

I guess it's the cool thing to hate.

Blue Bug

Isn't minecraft all about stories? It's almost-literally game about writing story for yourself, making stuff up. I think story drive game in minecraft world sounds like super fitting.

Pip

@BlueBug looking good

Blue Bug

19:15

ty @Pip

Pip

Grrr

I'm really stuck at the moment.....

Monogame serializes Vector2s differently on Windows and Linux

so JSON gets fucked up

OMGtechy

19:55

Anyone live near Seattle or going to CppCon this year? Chances are, I'll be going! :D

Pip

20:22

Nice

Lokkij

Apocalypse World looks like such a cool RPG. Hopefully I can convince my friends to try it. There's also a fun podcast about it.

Blue Bug

20:57

I drew the protagonist for my game.

Jon

i hate him.

Blue Bug

lol

Jon

protagonist looks like a bad person... are you fighting good?

also, holy shit, one of the guys behind the binding of isaac is a total pos

Blue Bug

U r fighting for no reason, just causing violence. You can say his sorta villain. What is "total pos"? #Jon

Pip

SPACESHIPS

So hard to see, sorry

@Jon check it out

Blue Bug

21:02

the textures are very hypnotizing @Pip

Pip

lol

The spaceship and stuff are loaded from json, as are the tiles.

However the ones in the gif are "randomly" generated (cellular automata, etc)

Blue Bug

btw do you know what is a "pos"

Pip

"Pos"ition?

Blue Bug

hmmm

Pip

oh in Jon's context I have no idea

oh yes I do

@BlueBug he means "piece of shit"

or "pile"

Lokkij

21:05

Apocalypse World's manual is nice. Not only does it give you good, clear principles to work from, it also has a chapter on advanced fuckery.

Blue Bug

What did the guy do? Does the man have bad manner?

Pip

7 mins ago, by Jon

also, holy shit, one of the guys behind the binding of isaac is a total pos

I have no idea

@Lokkij awesome

Jon

21:52

i read some comments he made on reddit

POsted a video Tutorial of him making a game

People gave criticism (awesome criticism), and he replied with stuff like "You are stupid, where is your Isaac?"

Almo

just finished 140... very nice

1 hour game, worth $5 easily

Jon

ebay.ca/itm/C64-Maniac-Mansion-Lucasfilm-Games-1987-/…

holy shit... an english copy popped up

$420

Jon

22:11

Jon

22:37

rev4 vs rev3 lol

Pip

23:48

Oh man

This is what robotics is all about: i.imgur.com/n9YlRpZ.gifv

<3

Joe

@Jon ~~what did he do?~~ which one... sounds like an idiot

Jon

i'll find it later, busy sorry

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