Game Development

Pip

18:46

I have some loud-ass speakers. They aren't the best out there but they are decent

Btw @Jon @OMGtechy Monogame is getting really close to a unified multi-platform binary!

Linux and WindowsGL have been merged, and:

> DesktopGL runtime should work on mac. I'd like to give it a test first before we drop the mac runtime completely.

:D

Lokkij

We should totally set up a party at Pip's place then.

Pip

I live nowhere near anybody else

also parents :/

OMGtechy

@Pip nice :D

Pip

20 hours ago, by Icy Defiance

@Pip don't you know all internet people are evil and want to kidnap you at some nearby park?

OMGtechy

Yeah sorry man I do.

Pip

18:52

20 hours ago, by Icy Defiance

if you both use the internet and go outside within the same lifetime, you'll probably be kidnapped

lol

OMGtechy

or die (early)

Lokkij

Diggity darnit! My evil plan has been foiled!

Pip

XD

In other news, I have no idea if this is worth or not. I could probably finish all of these in a week or less: msdn.microsoft.com/en-ca/dn965460

OMGtechy

blog.codinghorror.com/for-a-bit-of-colored-ribbon

Pip

Hahahahahahahhahahha good try M$

> No software needs to be installed to develop using TouchDevelop, all you need is a modern browser such as Internet Explorer.

OMGtechy

18:54

xD

Pip

> I'm just terrified waiting for the first credit card company who decides to add achievements.

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Hahahahaha

OMGtechy

LOL

Almo

regex101.com

put in regex, shows how it works, and explains exactly what it's doing

Jovito

@MLM What did you mean by 'overlay space'?

yesterday, by MLM

You can make a UI container that is absolutely positioned(so it is over top of the sibling) but takes up all the space of the parent so you have a nice overlay space

MLM

@Jovito Have one wrapper absolute positioned element so you don't have to position each thing absolutely if you don't want to

You have a fresh space to lay out things on top of the canvas

Jovito

19:07

hm, you mean like I could reverse align blocks and wrap them, that kind of thing?

Without having to absolutely position them.

Nevermind, I think I got it.

Jon

blogs.unity3d.com/2015/05/28/…

basically -- they have nothing until webGL is complete.

Here in my garage, just bought this new Lamborghini here

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this fucken guy

Almo

19:26

"the plugin framework that Unity Web Player relies on to enable the richest interactive content experiences on the web."

on a tech post, they can drop the self-aggrandizement, in my opinion

Kevin van der Velden

@Jon another alternative: use the new api that they have provided for a few year

Jon

?

Hey so I'm a rich pretentious asshole, you know you can be a rich pretentious asshole too? Buy my stupid fucking program to make me a richer, more pretentious asshole.

Almo

shouldn't they have waited to remove NPAPI until WebGL was ready?

Jovito

@MLM Is there any way to solve this sizing problem when zooming in and out on the browser? Sometimes, depending on the zoom factor, some pixels get left out and divs don't get sized corrrectly.

Almo

oh but wait: that would make sense. Can't have that.

Pip

19:29

:(

Jon

"they" are not removing npapi, google is

Almo

that's what I mean

Kevin van der Velden

@Almo the new api is PPAPI. That's ready

Almo

Google.

Icy Defiance

@Almo maaaybe, but they announced years ago that they would be removing NPAPI. I don't feel too much sympathy for all the companies that are going crazy now.

no one thought google was serious or something

Jon

19:29

Yeah.. Google is a douche.

Almo

so how come Unity isn't using that?

Jon

they announced it last year

WebGL was already in the works

WebGL is gonna take years to reach maturity

People are saying that if you build for Web, to use something else for the next few years

Almo

my take is, if your game isn't really simple, fuck the web

man I hate dealing with different browsers.

Jovito

@MLM Or is it just something you have to live with?

Icy Defiance

@Jon almost 2 years ago. blog.chromium.org/2013/09/…

Jon

19:31

if browsers followed fucken standards.

But they don't, they all do their own shit

Always, have. Always will.

Heck, even WebGL isn't fully supported by browsers yet

Icy Defiance

Kevin has a good point about PPAPI though

PPAPI gets its own thread instead of just crashing a tab when it screws up, it's designed to be sandboxed so it's more secure, and...I don't remember any other details. it's basically supposed to be NPAPI but without the horrible things.

MeltyButter

@Jon really? which browsers don't do webgl?

Almo

Woa! Where'd you come from? :D

Jovito

@MeltyButter caniuse.com/#feat=webgl

@Almo Is it really that bad?

Almo

is what that bad

Jovito

19:37

6 mins ago, by Almo

my take is, if your game isn't really simple, fuck the web

Almo

yeah i hate web dev

even doing simple websites you end up with compatibility issues between browsers

MeltyButter

@Jovito looks like they all have at least 1 version that supports it? or am i reading it wrong?

Jovito

Not Opera Mini, apparently.

Almo

Approximate Reached in SO profile is useless... if a question was asked 4 years ago and got 250k hits, and it has 2 answers, if you add an answer now and it gets one upvote, you get +250k to your "Reached" profile stat.

someone else adds an answer that gets 2 upvotes (putting you in 4th place) you lose that 250k

Pip

yep. Pretty damn useless.

Jovito

19:39

I guess what @Jon meant was that a lot of people still use older browsers that don't support WebGL yet.

Almo

If it's that busted, I'd say just remove it

Jon

Firefox doesn't fully support webGL

and it is quite popular

MeltyButter

yeah what does partial support mean?

Jovito

Yeah.

"Support listed as "partial" refers to the fact that not all users with these browsers have WebGL access. This is due to the additional requirement for users to have up to date video drivers. This problem was solved in Chrome on Windows as of version 18."

Jon

get.webgl.org

Pip

19:42

My browser supports WebGL! Firefox FTW!

Jon

hehe

So i guess it isn't the browser, it is the video card

Pip

Probably

So Jon

UI for Monogame? That's my next step.

Ali.S

even WP supports webgl, I'm pretty sure there is nothing on earth that doesn't support it

Jon

UI, as in... buttons and stuff?

Pip

Thinking about rolling my own but is a LOT of effort

@Jon Yeah

Buttons are the big deal atm

Jon

19:45

khronos.org/registry/webgl/sdk/tests/…

I have monogame buttons

I actually wrote a couple of UI elements

if you wanna team up

Pip

hanks Khronos. Your tests crash my browser. Thanks

@Jon team up as in.....?

Jon

i'll give you my code, lol

Pip

I always have liked free code

though if you want to contribute I'm all for that

Jon

yeah, probably best if I code it in

Pip

My project though :D

Jon

19:52

looking at it, and it is messy

Pip

No problem. If we can integrate it all is good. I might try to pull out a framework from this so I can start with a working camera/state manager/etc for my next project.

I've added you to the repo again

I have some changes from today IIRC, hold on on pulling until then please :)

Jon

i kinda have to go for now, bbl

Pip

At least the stuff from this morning is there

alright, cya Jon

Jon

githut.com

typo'd -- wut ?

Pip

lol

Jon

20:05

hmmm

i pulled moonpark and tried to build, and it is missing XNA refs

Pip

oh damn

It's not

Jon

monogame ref is there -- but not installing

I thought it installed last time I built it.. wtf.

Pip

uninstall and reinstall

idk why that happens sometimes

Also make sure it's the one for whatever OS

Jon

hmm.. did you build mono from source?

Pip

@Jon Nope

Gimme a sec, I'll do a clean pull and see what's up

Jon

20:07

@Pip wait

Pip

kk

Jon

yeah dunno

enabled nuget and it still failed -- i'll have to install manually i guess

gotta go for now, bbl

Pip

Alright, cya

Pip

20:24

legit!

Pip

20:39

So.... I now have a 256x256 map with 64x64 tiles

what could go wrong

TheMuffinCoder

LMAO I want to become addicted to coding like this

huffingtonpost.ca/suzanne-ma/…

Imagine the efficiency and motivation, maybe if I were addicted I would learn Haskell or common lisp

Pip

:D

TheMuffinCoder

Pip wanna get addicted to coding together! :D

We could both learn a language we dont know :P

Pip

Nope. I'm sticking with C# at the moment. I want to get some work done on this

TheMuffinCoder

@Pip lol am sticking with TypeScript to get work done :P

Pip

20:49

As a side note... it is morphing into something that it was originally unintended to be. Every freaking time I build something it turns into a fucking tile-based sandbox/rpg. Fuck.

Well, this is turning into Tarbeyon 2.0

Fuck. XD

@veerendra if you reload the page you should be able to talk.

TheMuffinCoder

@Pip :D

I think ur subconscious is telling u something

Pip

Lol

TheMuffinCoder

Make a tile based RPG :D

veerendra

Hi all...How can I get opengl context in glfw 3.1 in windows 7? how to bind windows api to glfw to get opengl context object.

Pip

I think it's because I've built the architecture so many times. It's just ingrained.

TheMuffinCoder

20:51

@Pip Come on Pip :D u can make something better than BrowserQuest browserquest.mozilla.org

@veerendra lol am sorry, am a complete opengl noob

Pip

I don't know, but you should check out glfw.org @veerendra

veerendra

@Pip

I had already did that.. but no use

Almo

some companies really suck

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veerendra

anyways thanks @Pip @Th

@TheMuffinCoder thanks

Pip

@TheMuffinCoder I found your character! I'm Amax

@Almo :(

TheMuffinCoder

20:54

@veerendra D: bu i didnt help u

@Pip :D let me check

Pip

hahahaha

TheMuffinCoder

xD

see u can make something better than this

Pip

eh

not really that interested

I want to do something..... eh

Something sandboxy

TheMuffinCoder

lol we could literally defeat the entire game in 2 minutes

@Pip Did someone say, sandboxy??? :D glslsandbox.com

Pip

... :D

TheMuffinCoder

20:58

@Pip glslsandbox.com/e#25595.1 so pretty

I wish I knew glsl

Never had time to understand its syntax

Cant wait till June 26 to learn :D

Pip

It's decently complicated

why June 26?

TheMuffinCoder

school ends :D

@Pip lmao why is Java #1 ? mashable.com/2015/01/18/programming-languages-2015

Pip

Aww C# is third

TheMuffinCoder

:D js is second

Almo

sometimes, a song both captures its era in pop music, and is also a good song at the same time.

Laura Branigan - Self Control (1984) //Good Audio Quality\\

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I liked this when it came out, and still do.

veerendra

21:01

is there any one have who has experience in developing games for oculus rift?

Almo

but yeah, it's very 80s

structurally, it's interesting, as they save the "oh oh oh" hook till 2 minutes in. Lesser song structures would have blown that much sooner, probably first time the chorus shows up.

bazola

you may find this question I posted interesting:

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Q: Isometric City Building Game

I have recently been working on my first game with an isometric perspective. For those who don't know, an isometric perspective is a pseudo 3D view created from 2D tiles. I am working off of this tutorial about isometric graphics. I believe my approach is fairly clean and efficient. I have tri...

java game graphics libgdx

MLM

@Jovito Show me what you have

Jovito

21:23

@MLM Nevermind, overflow: hidden solved it. Just don't understand how yet.

MLM

@Jovito show me. stackoverflow.com/a/16056509/796832

Blue Bug

6:25 am here. Gotta go to work in 3 hours, no sleep. I will be terrible at work, but my code is working at the moment. lol happy.

Jovito

@MLM Not only it forced both the canvas and the ui div to stay the same size whatever zoom factor, but also got rid of the scrollbar that "html { height: 100%; }" added.

Pip

@BlueBug gg

Blue Bug

@Pip #YOLO

MLM

21:26

@Jovito If you added it to the wrapper. You have the canvas 300x300 set in attributes with a 2px border making it 304px

Jovito

Which was what I wanted.

Pip

I need upvotes, but I need answers more! Come on Code Review! codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/92096/…

Jovito

@MLM I actually added overflow: hidden to the html element.

MLM

@Jovito I can't be certain with my predictions without a demo. Please share

Jovito

k wait.

user4704

21:29

@Pip isn't that just rect-rect intersection testing?

user4704

which can be done in four compares?

Blue Bug

@Pip "tile-based game" What is it?

Pip

@JoshPetrie Go answer it then :D (I have no idea, but possibly)

@BlueBug game codenamed MoonPark

I have no idea what it's going to turn into

Right now the doc says it's going to be a citybuilder

user4704

I mean, it sounds like you have a point and a size, and you create a rectangle from that, right?

Pip

Yeah pretty much

user4704

21:31

Then you test if that rectangle intersects the screen rectangle?

user4704

If that is semantically accurate for you then just do: stackoverflow.com/questions/306316/…

user4704

if (RectA.X1 < RectB.X2 && RectA.X2 > RectB.X1 &&
RectA.Y1 < RectB.Y2 && RectA.Y2 > RectB.Y1)

Pip

oh

Well, go write a short answer if you want :D

Thanks though!

Jovito

@MLM I guess this it. jsfiddle.net/Jovito/dh7cLcgy

I thought it made more sense to give the ui div a border instead of the canvas.

MLM

@Jovito And what do you want different? jsfiddle.net/yv4agyn3/6

user4704

21:38

@Pip I am morally opposed to CR :D

Jovito

@MLM I told you, my problem was that when I zoomed in or out, the canvas would move 1 or 2 pixels to the right. But when I added 'overflow: hidden' to the html element, it solved both this problem and the problem of the scrollbar showing up when you give a 100% height to the html.

Now I'm just trying to understand how 'overflow: hidden' did this. Other than that, I'm good.

Pip

@JoshPetrie why?

user4704

I feel like it's too soft.

user4704

It's not as bad as programmers though :D

Pip

:D

Jovito

21:45

@MLM But do you agree that it makes more sense to instead give the ui div a border and a padding of whatever border-width to the canvas as I did on the fiddle?

MLM

@Jovito Depends on what you want. How is this: jsfiddle.net/yv4agyn3/7

Pip

Ah nice that is tremendously faster

MLM

When using inline-block you have be conscious of whitespace in your markup. See: css-tricks.com/fighting-the-space-between-inline-block-elements

I am not quite sure where these extra pixels are. What browser and zoom level are causing this?

Jovito

@MLM In chrome, any zoom level that its not a factor of 50, so 110%, 125%, 90%.

MLM

@Jovito I don't see it. Screenshot please

Jovito

21:52

@MLM wait, I'll see if I can reproduce it.

Jovito

22:05

@MLM Yeah, It didn't worked. It seems overflow hidden has nothing to with it, though it did remove the scrollbar. But here:

MLM

@Jovito Can you reproduce it with the demo I gave you?

Jovito

I'll try.

@MLM should this be happening?

MLM

@Jovito If you want the border on the UI, yes

You can always add overflow: hidden; to the body if you don't want the scroll bar or the "overflow"

Jovito

@MLM But shouldn't the UI div be exactly aligned with the canvas? In your fiddle, seems like the canvas oveflows more and more as you zoom in.

Maybe that's because you're giving top, bottom, left and right properties to the UI div instead of a width and height.

MLM

@Jovito It depends on what you want.... Here it is staying in place: jsfiddle.net/yv4agyn3/8

Jovito

22:14

Then you'd just give the UI a top: 0.

@MLM Maybe were misunderstanding each other. This happened now:

And this is what I want: jsfiddle.net/Jovito/dh7cLcgy/2

MLM

@Jovito jsfiddle.net/yv4agyn3/9

Jovito

@MLM So what was the issue?

This is what happens with my fiddle at 67% zoom:

MLM

@Jovito There was never really an issue. A combination of I didn't understand, you didn't state clearly enough, and changing goals along the way.

Jovito

MLM

@Jovito The rev.9 I linked doesn't have that issue.

Jovito

22:24

I noticed, but can you explain what exactly you did that solved this problem?

MLM

@Jovito I think you might learn more from poking around. No tricks in the code

Jovito

@MLM box-sizing?

MLM

yesterday, by MLM

See the mdn doc: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/box-sizing

Jovito

If I remove this:

*,
*:before,
*:after { box-sizing: inherit; }

Then I get that white column again, but on the right.

MLM

I got the inherit trick from: css-tricks.com/… - Helps with cascade of components that use a different box model

TheMuffinCoder

23:37

The last message was posted 1 hour ago.

WELL NOW IT ISNT

:D

MickLH

:D

TheMuffinCoder

Finally finished all my hw =^.^= I can finally code in TypeScript! starts shaking with excitement

Icy Defiance

KUNG FURY was released on youtube. youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg

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half hour of the most awesome video you will ever see in your life

MickLH

This is the best thing ever.

TheMuffinCoder

@IcyDefiance look at those awesome graphics on the computers :D

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