Game Development

Roy T.

14:03

Lists everywhere? :P Haha sounds like me 2~3 years ago

Luckily its still O(n) :P

Shroeder

@jon Will i be able to chop down those trees at alpha of this game

Jon

no chopping

Shroeder

no chopping?

Jon

but you will be able to blow them up

Shroeder

Okay now i'm with you

Can I become a tree?

Jon

14:05

not planned lol

Shroeder

Are the trees hostile at times?

Jon

no, you need to protect trees

Shroeder

By blowing them up?

Jon

the roc people hate them

naw you plant them :P

Shroeder

How do I kill the rock people

Jon

14:06

you blow them up

lol

Shroeder

Okay, I'm with you

Can I swing from tree to tree?

Jon

I experimented with grappling hooks.. don't think they will make it in the game

Lokkij

Aww :(

Grappling hooks are awesome

Shroeder

Is it okay to chop down the tree if its for science?

Jon

lol

Christoph

14:08

the last game I played that had a grapping hook was "Granny Smith"

Shroeder

Speedrunners

Almo

Pixel Junk Eden

Shroeder

Whats wrong with that Grappling hook @jon

I would say its ready for production

Jon

Shroeder

Hahaha

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

14:09

... I just disabled the reset pin on the IC I'm testing. That's pretty stupid.

Jon

rope tests

user92578

@Jon That is awesome!

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I accidentally reused the same fuses as I had for another IC.

Jon

the grappling hook, problem was getting it to cling and wrap around surfaces

I had some code done for it, but didn't pursue it

Shroeder

I love the second rope Fail where it falls in front of him

Jon

14:10

lots of math

user92578

BTW I have my first band rehearsal today! I'm super exited!

Shroeder

Thats crazy man

Jon

I could maybe add it in version 2 :)

Shroeder

So no chopping?

Jon

that char is also just programmer holder art

no chopping :)

Rope is really easy to implement, I actually encourage people to try making a demo

just have a head node, and then a max distance between the remainder of the nodes for the slack

lerp the distance for a nicer spring effect

Shroeder

14:13

I haven't the slightest idea how to implement those kinds of physics

Is that in Unity2d?

Jon

naw, monogame

Shroeder

Does that have built in physics you use?

Jon

Yeah, its all my custom physics

Shroeder

Crazy

Almo

Jon's hardcore

Jon

14:14

its literally just gravity there

nothing complicated

Shroeder

What data type is Gravity

Jon

Vector2

Almo

Jon makes fluid dynamic physics systems and doesn't afraid of anything.

5

Joe

^that

Jon

lol thats true

i like to attempt anything

Shroeder

14:14

So its a constant velocity of like (0,150)

user92578

Gravity is acceleration, right?

Jon

@Shroeder yeah, exactly.

gravity is applied on each frame

Shroeder

How do you stop gravity in this case

Jon

Force += Gravity * elapsed;

Shroeder

your rope catches and stopps falling

Jon

14:15

if you are Grounded... no gravity is applied

yeah, top most node is Attached.

then the rest fall down to maxdistance from parent node

like a snake

Shroeder

and you set them to increment or decrement thier x values until they are the same as the parent node?

Jon

Parent node gets a velocity, when thrown

gravity pushes down on each frame

collision detection is applied to each rope node

the children node just follows the parent node

at the furthest, maxDistance

Almo

It's funny how much of a difference it makes to graphics when you implement proper gravity

Shroeder

Your mind works just like mine @jon

Almo

I used a real parabolic curve with terminal velocity on the falling blocks in a word game I worked on for Ubisoft

Jon

14:18

proper gravity is overrated in games :)

Almo

as soon as the gravity went it, the falling looked awesome

Shroeder

a perfect explanation

user92578

My game has really crappy physics

user92578

Jumping is done in height

user92578

if (jumpedHeight == maxJumPheight() { endJump(); }

Almo

14:18

(I was referring to in a very simple, controlled environement, and just using the acceleration equation) :)

Shroeder

What is parabolic again?

Almo

oooh

great name for a game

PHeight

user92578

:D

Almo

it's like a fighting game, but your characters can fly or something

Jon

For my jumping, I apply a Velocity to Y -- then if you prematurely release the jump button before peak, I greatly reduce the velocity until < 0

in this manner, you can control your jump height

@Tyyppi_77 ^

user92578

14:22

I have proper jumping physics on my task list

Jon

I have make task list on my todo list

user92578

Visual Studio has a good enough one for me

Jon

I do need to revise my design docs

yeah, <3 VS

user92578

"Before starting to code a task list, you first need to add that task to your task list."

Jon

I seriously can't go to linux just because of VS

user92578

14:24

^^

Shroeder

I don't understand.

Visual Studio == vs?

user92578

yeah

Shroeder

You <3 VS?

Jon

heh, i LOVE Visual Studio

user92578

me too

Shroeder

14:25

So why switch to Linux

Jon

Exactly what I said

user92578

yeah

Shroeder

I seriously can't go to linux just because of VS

Jon

I would prefer to go open source, switch it up to linux, and code completely free

Shroeder

Ooo

Jon

14:26

But I can't, because I am in love with Visual Studio

Shroeder

Whats wrong with Vs E

Jon

It doesn't run on Linux

user92578

I just found this in my old code :DDD : // Helps serilialiazliazing. (that's a hard word to type right)

Shroeder

Whats so great about Linux?

user92578

OpenSource

user92578

14:27

Not Windows

user92578

Customization

user92578

Not Windows

user92578

Free

user92578

Nerdy

Jon

Platform independant kinda

Roy T.

14:27

Open source is not a strenght or weakness of a software product percee

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Jon

in the sense that linux has been ported to everything up to a coffee machine

Shroeder

I am in an MSDN shop where I don't worry of such things.

Roy T.

Windows runs on sewing machines! (not kidding)

Shroeder

Its up to us to make microsoft work for these things. Like shoving a triangle block in a square hole you see

SpartanDonut

Each OS has its pros and cons. Let's just agree with that and not debate it

Shroeder

14:29

Requires "Tools" like a hammer, and punching bag for frustrations

Ok

user92578

Yeah

Roy T.

Oh god not this elitist Linux rant plzx

Shroeder

I do want a windows sewing machine

I don't sew. But now I want to

Jon

i have a sewing machine, my mom gave it to me.. I don't know why she gave it to me, I don't have any idea how to use it.

Shroeder

Ha

Roy T.

14:30

iusbd.com/operating-system/embedded-operating-system

Shroeder

There will come a time when you will need it

bornander

Is it considered rude to ask people here to try ones game to get opinions on it?

Shroeder

sutcher a wound

Roy T.

Nah not rude

Jon

no @bornander

kinda exciting actually

user92578

14:31

I love to play other's games

Shroeder

I'll try it for sure

bornander

So I've made this; play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bornander.hovercraft

Shroeder

When I get home:(

bornander

But I think I might have made it too hard to control.

It seems to have a very steep learning curve.

user92578

Sorry actually my phone is out of memory

Almo

14:32

@RoyT. you mean per se :)

Roy T.

I love those games where you control two engines indepedently

user92578

@bornander That looks awesome tough!

bornander

(and it's free, no ads or in-game purchases of course or I wouldn't ask you guys)

Roy T.

However, I am a poor Windows Phone user :(

@Almo ah you're right

Jon

I made a space game where you control left/right side engines independantly

Almo

14:32

hmm

bornander

I am an android user because I am poor :)

Almo

maybe LN should get a windows phone client

user92578

LN?

Almo

lowest number

Jon

user92578

14:33

Ah. Is that the final name or just a WIP one?

Almo

well, if we have a decent number of users for ios and android, maybe I will

WIP name

Jon

old school

Almo

final name still not public, since it's an unused iOS app name

bornander

Anyway, any feedback would be appreciated. And for those that are good with Box2D, suggestions of how to fix it would be even more appreciated :)

user92578

@Almo What are you using for the iOS app?

Almo

14:34

once I get the app created at apple so we have it for sure, i'll let people know

Interface Builder

bornander

@Tyyppi_77 Thank.

Almo

the Xcode IDE's built-in interface creation tool

it's... unusual. :)

user92578

Couldn't you have made the game in like HTML5 and JS, and then just coded a native HTML view for the game for each platform?

Almo

I don't want it accessible from web browsers

it's easier to get ad revenue from dedicated mobile apps

bornander

@Jon What did you use to make that game?

Almo

14:36

and I really don't like working with HTML if I can avoid it

user92578

No no not web-browser but you make the "site" in HTML, and then create an application that has a WebView controll or something?

user92578

CrossPlatform++

Jon

@bornander that is so old, it was written in XNA

Almo

I don't like those; too hard to know what the final result will look like

user92578

Ah, okay

user92578

14:36

Makes sense

Jon

@bornander Why does your app want to know my phone number?

Almo

I've worked with HTML enough to know you have to fight with it every step of the way

bornander

I don't know. I think it's the identity of the phone it needs for Google Play Leaderboards.

Almo

less fight = more chance I'll actually finish the product

this is why I bought PHPStorm for working on the backend

$99 for less hassle means more chance I'll finish it

bornander

@Jon Don't worry, I won't use it to call you in the middle of the night asking what you think of my game :)

Jon

14:38

holy crap this is hard

how do i reset?

bornander

@Jon Back button.

user92578

^^ bad choice

user92578

You shouldn't use hardware buttons that state "Press here to go back" to do something else

Jon

hahaha, i don't have to land on my feet

completely wrecked and managed to land upside down

bornander

@Jon No, "Success" in the loosest sense of the word :)

Jon

14:40

not bad

bornander

@Tyyppi_77 It does a sort of a "back" function, it's not like a completely different action.

user92578

Ah, okay

Jon

I see my son playing the shit out of this

2

bornander

@Jon Thank you! I guess you earned the achievement "You've done broke it" already :)

Jon

@bornander what you need is to add different ship types

more parts

maybe build your own

bornander

14:41

@Jon I was planning on that, but I de-scoped it to finish it.

@Jon You do get to fly slightly different ones in later chapters, but you can't build them.

Jon

ah ok cool

yeah this is pretty good man

bornander

@Jon Maybe in version 2.

Jon

what did you write it in?

its box2d on what?

bornander

@Jon It's Box2D on AndEngine.

@Jon In hindsight I probably should have used libgdx.

Jon

cool, i'll get it for my son on his tablet, i'm sure he'll beat the game

my in house game tester

user92578

14:44

How old's your son?

Jon

almost 7

bornander

@Jon Tell him not to get too dissapointed if he doesn't earn three stars on some levels, I think my last batch of changes might have made that impossible on a few of them :)

Jon

yeah I think so

unless I am really bad at this which I am

user92578

Can "almost 7" years old even get disapointed about anything other than "no ice cream days"?

Jon

Here I pulled out my first unfinished game

www.jgallant.com/files/Uranus.zip

It takes a little bit on the first run to generate the world

Then after that it launches pretty quick

bornander

14:48

@Jon I'm trying that as soon as I get home.

Jon

or maybe not -- probably didn't have save implemented yet

similar physics to yours, but no gravity

Arrows to move. F to shoot. ESC to exit editor

Mousewheel zooms

bornander

@Jon Right, I'm off to the pub, but thanks again for trying it. Very much appreciated.

Jon

I'm posting for everyone here :)

user92578

@Jon What's a little bit?

user92578

minutes?

Jon

14:51

seconds

like 12 seconds

maybe less, i dunno

user92578

Then something is not definetely working

Jon

is it on Loading?

user92578

No window is visible

Jon

oh

you need xna redist

if you don't have it

user92578

ah

Jon

14:53

you would put that in an installer

microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=20914

user92578

Aihgt, I cheched all my files from starting with A to E, and refactored where was needed

Jon

give my old space shooter demo a shot then :) it is my first game

well... first game that is not a board game

user92578

okay

user92578

Quite fun @Jon!

Jon

Needs enemies

user92578

14:57

yeah

Jon

have you ever played captain forever?

user92578

nope

Jon

:D

captainforever.com/captainforever.php

user92578

15:21

I'll leave for my band rehearsal, and I need to have a day without computer today, so I'll see you guys thursday!

Jon

15:34

sounds good

user4704

15:49

I wish people would not answer off-topic questions :(

AttackingHobo

@JoshPetrie hey game dev how do I install flash player?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Then you'd be out of a job. That's not a good thing to wish for.

And on the Flash forums people are asking how to make games. :P

user4704

I'm less concerned about that and more the one about "good programming practices."

Ali.S

in care any one want to participate, there is going to be an international GDC in Iran. check it out here: studentgdc.com

Jon

nextbigwhat.com/yahoo-india-layoff-297

AttackingHobo

15:57

@Jon Is that a good thing?

vine.co/v/OK5TtYVmZ7b

Wow I want to be layed off by yahoo "Yahoo is giving a severance package of 5 months (in extreme cases, 10 months)"

Jon

i don't get how they employed 2250

what the hell were they doing?>

Ali.S

anyone wants this game? store.steampowered.com/app/215160

AttackingHobo

5 workers the rest are managers managing managers managing managers......

Ali.S

I've got 90% off coupon

AttackingHobo

@Ali.S sure I'll take it

Ali.S

16:03

@AttackingHobo steam account?

AttackingHobo

<

Ali.S

so I could gift it to you?

Almo

cute trailer

AttackingHobo

<----

Ali.S

aha!

Christoph

16:04

time to go home, see you later!

SpartanDonut

If you skip breakfast and its 11am... there still is not enough room for 4 pancakes. Keep that in mind kids.

Almo

bye

Ali.S

@AttackingHobo deluxe edition or normal one?

AttackingHobo

delux. Kind of interested in the making of. Art looks pretty cool there

Ali.S

is this you? steamcommunity.com/id/AttackingHobo

AttackingHobo

16:09

yup

@Ali.S my avatar is a screenshot from this video

►

Ali.S

some unexpected error is happening :P

I can't purchase it right now :P

Jon

7Blue_Beast7

16:29

Ahhh!!! I am back again from da dead

Jon

16:48

you were dead?

user4704

Evernote is going through another redesign, huh?

user4704

The last thing I remember reading about Evernote was the previous redesign. :|

7Blue_Beast7

Jon nope

Just being a tootsie boy ^.^

user4704

I don't actually use it - always found it a bit cumbersome

Noctrine

All of these influential people using it! It must be good!!

user4704

16:56

And I don't understand why people want to store all sorts of crazy sensitive data in there like their bills, medical information, et cetera.

Noctrine

I think I tried it at one point forever ago, but - meh.

Looks like a lot of what I use dropbox / google drive for.

user4704

I had a three-year pro subscription for free. It's much better with the pro stuff, but I never used it enough to justify it. I use Simplenote instead at the moment, and it works perfectly fine for everything except notes with pictures. Which are rare in my particular workflow.

user4704

(I don't use Dropbox for anything either, really.)

Noctrine

I use it for quickly storing and sharing pictures / video / scripts.

Nick

Devs buzzing. Servers humming. Uploads zooming. Were I a space center building I would start quivering right now.

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