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20:00
I'd like to play CS:Source now, if they really are that different.
@Noctrine It collapses on its own when the round is ending.
15 tickets from the end of the game iirc
@MickLH I just said that CSGO gunplay is way better than source. Why would I want to play source?
Ah crap, now I'm watching BF trick videos again.
20:02
runs off to play Destiny
Density
but not really... not yet
@Noctrine heh, the Rendezook?
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CS:Source is still $20 :O
@AttackingHobo Because you are emotionally invested in your opinions about counter-strike, judging by your usage of "No. <reasons>" in response to my comment about CS
If you want to say the gunplay is better, great, I don't dispute your opinion
But if you want to say CS:GO is more true to the spirit of counter-strike, well then I have to ask for your justification because I don't see it
20:04
CS:GO is more true to the spirit of counter-strike.
actually, never played it
I always preferred DoD to CS
:)
I probably have more hours in DoD than BF:BC, BF3 and BF4 combined
@Almo lol, I'm just trying to judge how my point is recieved by your joke, if it bears any resemblance to the concept that was seriously portrayed, then I'm being misunderstood. I am not "trolled" by other opinions, I just find them unfounded un-applied in practice
:)
I was just goofing around
I have no real opinon on CS, having played it once (don't know which version) around 2003.
20:06
I'm not bashing GO in any way, seriously, I'm just saying it handles more like Call of Duty now. And well if I wanted that, there is already Call of Duty.
I always loved the amazing accuracy of the first shot alone in CS
I miss the guns being reliable
Well, I hated how bitchy the players were, and I thought it annoying how hard it was to discern who was on which team, but I only played one or two lunch times.
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Having played CoD and CS:Go, I don't see many similarites in the gameplay besides guns
I don't want to worry about fake "realistic" bullshit in a game that's about as realistic as a cartoon
I played with workmates, BTW.
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They simply do not feel the same at all
20:08
@MickLH this kind of sums up my opinions. reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1zkeig/…
@MLM That's the core of my point
I'm sorry, I collected the point from that rant, but I got here and I am too disgusted by the shear volume of fallacy:

> In some ways, this actually made the game harder, pretty funny considering I hear it's a "console port for casuals".
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I just wish I had Halo 2 (or above) for PC. I find I boot up CS:GO because it is my only FPS on Steam
Making the game harder for one guy that way, directly translates to making it easier for the other guy. (In context of smoke grenades and similar)
"There needs to be a point in time where old players accept the fact that some changes were made for a reason and that CS 1.6 is not the goldstandard where every game element that differs is automatically worse"
This is the vibe I catch from you, but you need to turn it back on yourself and realize that not every single person who prefers 1.6 over GO falls into this box.
@MLM I too have longed for an FPS with Halo like polish to it on the PC. My personal opinion, from what I've tried, Titanfall probably comes closest
CS 1.6 was a beautiful accident, like when a sound engineer accidentally stumbles on some amazing resonant synth settings, and loves playing with it for so long that their ears are numb to it and they tweak the parameters all the way out of resonance without realizing it
20:14
I played the first halo on Xbox
it was fun
except for the fucking jumping puzzle at the end >:(
sup nerds
hey sn
in series for silver
lost one already though
woot
ugh
just got LogMeIn installed on my work pc
that means no more Facebook or Reddit for a while, most likely.
lest I get them banned for everyone else
hehehe
what's logmein
really?
It's a remote access tool
Joe
Joe
20:16
remote desktop stuff
It's kinda like chow mein, except instead of food it's jam-wacky (as opposed to hamachi)
ah ok
was wondering about chow mein actually
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@MickLH but made with logs?
hamachi is food, lol
and hamachi is the name of the company, lol
what does LogMeIn have to do with visiting frowned upon sites?
20:17
@ShotgunNinja lol I'm back to my silly shit after a Serious Business(TM) rant
yeah
well, the point of having it set up is so the IT dude can install updates by logging in
which means eventually they're going to drop in for surveillance purposes.
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whoops
That is an interesting use of LogMeIn
barcode scanners are dangerous
20:18
lol
I believe most organizations leverage other tools for managing PCs attached to the domain
Do you guys have AD?
we're not most other organizations
maybe they're AP
we have one IT dude, and only about 200 employees
@Almo lol
you mean LoL
20:19
exactly
200 is a good size to start investing in right tools... but that's just me
but yeah, we don't have an AD to my knowledge
we're also a sheet music company, so a lot of our stuff is mac
Oh sure
the systems department and the sales department are the only two (outside of execs) that use PCs.
Well whatever. :)
20:20
and our servers are IBMs running *nix
plus, I'm in software dev, so I'm not made privy to what goes on in IT.
for good reason, lol
I've become an avid follower of reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport
At my company we get an empty PC attached to the domain with full admin rights
fun
I, too, like to live dangerously.
-xkcd
Yup sums up what happened today
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@MickLH late reply, but thanks
20:23
In other news I finally managed to figure out CNAMEs to the point where I could point a subdomain to Azure. Took me long enough to remember I was working on that lol... azure.intellisenseless.com
So intellisenseless.com is hosted in one place and that host points the azure subdomain to an Azure site. Seems simple but I'm dumb so it took far too long
I think your site has been hijacked by Microsoft. It's an ad :p
^ - lol.
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20:30
i just read the one about the "unsafe work conditions" server stack infested with "giant spiders"
I don't normally use reddit, but I think I'll make an exception for this page xD
@Joe hahahha
Turning my site into a gian MS ad was indeed step 1. Unfortunately I don't have a plan for step 21 right now
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... ill keep my hosted solution thank you, no hardware for me
@OMGtechy the thing about reddit is anyone can make a subreddit for any purpose (as long as it's not really, really illegal) and moderate it however they want. saying "I don't like reddit" is like saying "I don't like discussion boards", waaay too broad.
I didn't say I didn't like reddit? @IcyDefiance
Jon
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20:36
do you know what I like
working 4 hours on a bug
I'm in the same boat as @OMGtechy. I don't really use reddit... no qualms with it though
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i use reddit
reddit, have you readit
I've just started using reddit, and it's pretty great
20:38
This video helped my decision to start using:
most of the bad name reddit has is just from /r/adviceanimals, which is retarded, and back when /r/atheism was a default, because it made religious people angry.
/r/atheism used to be damn toxic, but it's not so bad today.
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David Haney on September 16, 2014

On Stack Overflow and our other code-related sites, creating a minimal, complete, and verifiable example is the best way to get an answer to your question. We’ve always loved JSFiddle and sites like it because they let both askers and answerers reference runnable, working code that demonstrates their problem or solution.

Unfortunately, the use of these external sites introduces a few problems:

If the link breaks, the post becomes worthless.

If the code isn’t embedded in the page, visitors are forced to go elsewhere to get the full content of the question or answer. …

"decision to start using" Language reminiscent of illicit drug addiction: appropriate.
yeah... that phrasing was on purpose
@Jon god yes, I'm so tired of JSFiddle's fucking horrible god awful god damn atrocious disgusting LAGGY amazing slowness
20:40
@Jon I have this saved and visit it on occasion - it's a very much appreciated multi reddit :)
The faces do hold up at larger sizes, you've just gotta back up.
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aha, thanks :)
Gotta generate a larger face for my avatar now.
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welp
Looks like I'm learning C++
Gonna be a fun 20 years.
20:41
RIP Pip :'(
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lol
@Pip if it's for a personal project and not school I might be forced to ban you from chat
For 1 minute
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I'm learning C++ and Robot-C for Robotics
I'll allow it :D
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lol
20:42
But my god if you were starting yet another personal project or game with C++ ... tables would get flipped
lol I actually got my C++ classes replaced with mobile app development, and I kind of regret it, mostly because I have to use eclipse.
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well if you are interested, it is a lot easier to call interrupts in c++
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I don't like Eclipse much... have to use it for Java @IcyDefiance
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lol
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I might have time for a LoL game in a bit, if you are interested
20:43
might be able to use android studio and just port the project to eclipse before giving it to the prof. I'll be trying for my next assignment.
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maybe
and I have no time for LoL. work is over in 15 minutes, then I need to shower and get to class before 6
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god.... why can't I use asterisks?!?!?
won't be back 'til 9:30-ish
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alright, have fun :)
what class?
20:44
"image editing applications"
basically photoshop with a touch of photography
Never mind the jealousy pip, getting decent with C / C++ generally levels your mind up to a new level of accuracy while analyzing processes
I needed a couple extra classes to get the credits for my programming major, so I just told my advisor to grab something from the gamedev major. got that one and game theory for it.
Getting shot in the foot is the easiest way to learn not to shoot yourself in the foot.
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@MickLH that's nice to know, at least
lol
@IcyDefiance nice!
@MickLH tell that to the detroit lions. :'(
20:46
lol I think pursuing a life in pro sports is shooting yourself in the foot on a macro scale
lol possibly.
believe it or not, before computers, I was all about sports and was a reliable soccer player who my team would trust me to deal with 5 people at a time
People suck at doing vector math with their feelings
I'm sure I could've wrestled at least at a college level if I wasn't homeschooled. Before highschool it was just a club sport, so I could wrestle for local schools, but in highschool it was a school sport and I wasn't allowed to join. Glad I didn't take that route, though. Gave me much more time to spend on coding.
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iv'e been coding in my sleep lately
20:49
Related pic
haven't seen one of those shows
me either :D
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@JohnMcDonald i think this video just made me join reddit...
damnit
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lol
20:55
Pretty convincing guy, eh?
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@Jon why are we looking for unique ways to hang this bunny?
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its the suicidal bunny
The Book of Bunny Suicides: Little Fluffy Rabbits Who Just Don't Want to Live Any More (2003) is a bestselling collection of mostly one-image black comedy cartoons drawn by author Andy Riley. == Overview == Each cartoon shows one or more white rabbits in their creative attempts to end their lives using a variety of items. Revolving doors, a toaster, a cricket ball, a boomerang, a hand-grenade, the shining sun, a magnifying glass, smoking of several cigarettes, bowling balls and any combination of these are all featured as suicidal tools. The book also features a few cultural references, m...
lol the author of that book probably walks around, thinking, "How can I make this kill a bunny?"
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he actually killed himself by using dynamite while jumping off the empire state building
> The book drew controversy in 2008 at an Oregon, United States, high school when a mother refused to return the copy to her son's library, saying she was going to burn it instead.
I love this book
I haven't even seen the book and I love it
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20:59
lol
buy it
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lol
lol my parents would proably burn it
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probably
okay I'm out.
*throws smoke bomb at the ground*
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cough cough that was weed!!
21:03
oooooh, nice catch @Jon, I didn't realize that's how he meant "burn it"
@Jon cool image. I see you /r/cyberpunk too
but NSFW
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yup
was just for you
wow that was removed fast
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well, i deleted it
i consider it art.. but I mean
Q in the feed some company looking for devs, and by the time i clicked on it, it was gone
21:04
keep the image. just put a NSFW warning
so it doesn't show up in the feed
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yeah
Anyhow, have time for a game @Almo?
or anyone else?
@Jon hey maybe this is useful to you, it's a function to compute how many frames until the recursive Lerp gets to the "end"
float multiLerpSize(float start, float end, float lerpValue, float tolerance = 1.0) {
	start -= end;
	if (start < 0) start = -start;
	if (start < tolerance) return 0;
	return log(tolerance / start) / log(1.0 - lerpValue);
}
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nobody has the time to play LoL? aww
Not even @SpartanDonut?
Working. Sorry bro
@Pip wanna play Debug-The-Code with me?
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21:10
@SpartanDonut Alright, no probs :)
@MickLH what code?
cool
hehe
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:P
I was trying to type "cool, you can start with this or that" but you didn't give me enough time
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lol
@Pip I have a few pieces of code to debug really
lol
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21:11
have fun :)
We should have a game jam for who can debug my code the best, where each person gets a different piece of code I need to debug and the scoring is based on the efficiency alone, with a disqualification if it doesn't meet the spec exactly
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I think everyone would fail :P
Alright, off to my LoL game
bbl!
haha have fun
Oh, for bonus points, entrants can do the pieces that other people were assigned, and if they do a better job, they steal the points
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lol
that would be pretty cool
actually leaving now, game starting
ttyl
21:14
still at werk. sorry man
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no probs
@Almo I love you bro, I need more people in my life who use words like werk
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I actually have to leave once everyone loads up
taking really long :/
@Pip get toxic about someone's poor ass needing a "fucking" SSD
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lol
nope, just better upload/download speeds
no chat on loading screen :(
21:16
@MickLH hahaha
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Ooh, maybe I should switch real quick and play a game of Ascension
there are rewards as some sort of promo
oh you dirty game dropping fucker!
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game hasn't even loaded yet.... I think one of those "breaks in service" are happening atm
hehe just playing
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only two people (one me) have even connected to the lobby
21:19
It's not a big deal at all to drop a LoL game part way through loading and not re-join haha
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lol
Totally fine, do it all the time, to almo and icydefiance
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game starting... that was fast
muahaha
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cya
21:19
actual ttyl this time?
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omfg.... something weird is up
game.. started?
then everyone disconnected or something.... wtf just happened
whatever I guess
searching for a new group
latah, starting
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whats this?
21:34
You were asking about lists of resources (I was reading back the transcript to see where the discussion of subjective questions went when Noctrine brought it up)
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ahh nice
There was also a google doc that had a ton of stuff in it too but I seemed to have neglected to save that link... :/
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i did the same thing...
all of a sudden went to look for something in the stars
I think I saw it on Jon's multireddit a few months ago honestly
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GameDev Resources Google Doc: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…
21:37
Jinx! You owe me a coke.
Turns out reddit's search is decent
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yea i requested edits to that one
for a bunch of font stuff and tools
and they deleted all my comments
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I found it via Gmail search, from doc notifiications, I contributed to and it got accepted
Nice
Reddit seems to also have a "wiki" - reddit.com/r/gamedev/wiki/resources
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Soda Drinker Pro added to the Humble Mobile Bundle. Interesting game: youtube.com/watch?v=9NEyrmdlVxI
21:42
So not to beat a dead horse.... but reading back through the transcript and idea came to me which we probably don't like but I thought I would throw it out there
What if we allowed list questions but answers could only contain one list item?
Seems to obvious... probably has been proposed before
"All those wikis will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
Question should probably be turned into a community wiki but then this way the best items float to the top due to voting
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@SpartanDonut definitely going to check all these out... but personally for my list i want more of the non programming stuff... "things to speed up the non programming portion of game dev, so i can get back to coding" List
@Joe Really dig into the different sections on the pixel prospector site in that case
21:47
um wtf
@AttackingHobo Already read it on reddit
@JohnMcDonald you can read gifs?
@AttackingHobo can't you?
@SpartanDonut
Joe
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21:54
WTF happened here..
i turn around for 5 mins
22:12
This video puts me so much at ease... I don't get Anita Sarkeesian and it turns out I don't have to - youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w
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Ran into this researching a question. Figured it was interesting enough to be worth sharing. gdcvault.com/play/1015464/Attention-Not-Immersion-Making-Your
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back
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Had an awesome game
the most recent, if anyone wants to see
We lost, but was still an awesome game
went 5/7/16
definately needed more minion kills though..... still learning, @IcyDefiance
much much better than my last games though
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22:30
this is where I am from
amazing race canada came by :D
22:44
lol I've driven to school twice this week and haven't attended a single class
they keep cancelling shit

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