Game Development

user92578

16:07

Actually ended up picking MiniDungeon, but feel free to use EROTIC HAMSTER CRISIS in your next game.

user92578

Well I'm off for today, see you tomorrow!

BlueBug

16:26

I have weird thinging going on with unity

Lasse

I have weirder with opengl

BlueBug

a simple ray testing script to see if user clicked the thing. If user ray hits any instance of it, then all the instances of it fire event.

@Lasse let's do battle who can find solution faster!

Lasse

lol okay

my problem looks like that

1) why the hell is it showing only 8x8x8 blocks out of 32x32x32
2) why it shows some of the walls inside out like that
3) and why there is walls like that in the first place

oh I figured out 1)

uh, oh, no I didn't

now it shows only 16x16x16 chunks instead of 32x32x32

weird

BlueBug

16:57

@Lasse Are you drawing them with glDrawElements?

Lasse

yes

BlueBug

then... hmmm that's very odd I suppose the red portions are not supposed be drawn?(inside out) It looks like your left behind blocks are drawing properly though. Very odd.

Lasse

I sort of fixed that

but I introduced a new bug

BlueBug

hurhurhur

Lasse

and it's still drawing double sized blocks

BlueBug

17:01

are you doing matrix operation yourself? or using fixed pipeline?

Lasse

yes I'm using my own matrices

BlueBug

yeah doing matrix yourself can be tricky and result into weird behavior. I mean, for me, that was the case.

Lasse

it's not about them in this case

it worked well until I changed how I store the chunks, and that apparantly broke the mesh index generator too

BlueBug

what is it for though? game?

Lasse

I'm using octree that tries to compress a bit of memory

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A: Community Project Highlights 2014

CraftPlatform You have played minecraft, right? You might also have tried some mods for it. The thing is, the modding community is huge even though it's nightmare to create any mods for minecraft. The purpose of this project is to build a platform for minecraft like games and mods. The "vanill...

that project

BlueBug

17:04

wooohot that one, I c. cul.

Lasse

I'm not sure which part is effin up the final mesh, the octree or the mesh index generator

Alex M.

shit, got three drops of hot oil on my hand while getting the chicken done

the traces they left are now swollen and red

fucking pisses me off

Lasse

that sucks

BlueBug

my bug is this; ray hits only one of them but all of them think they got hit.

Lasse

are they copies of same object, just drawn in different position?

BlueBug

17:11

copies of the same object drawn in different position, yes

Lasse

You might need to use separate objects

initialize them invidually

I'm just guessing, I don't know how unity works

BlueBug

Alex M.

you need to show some code

BlueBug

        var p = Input.mousePosition;
        Ray r = Camera.main.ScreenPointToRay(p);
        if (Physics.Raycast(r)) this.renderer.material.color = new Color(Random.Range(0, 1.0f), Random.Range(0, 1.0f), Random.Range(0, 1.0f));

Alex M.

you know Unity has its own func for that right?

you attach colliders to the objects

BlueBug

17:15

onMouseClick? Yes I do. Attach colliders to the objects, yes.

Alex M.

which will make them respond to mouse over events

public void OnMouseOver()
{
}

BlueBug

but if they have parent transform OnMouseOver doesn't get fired, I believe, let me check it quick.

Kikaimaru

Alex! Have you seen my gamebook graph?!

googledrive.com/host/0B9F2GW2Uh2K0MlR1V2RJXzVLWWc/index.html

I have to show it to everyone!

Alex M.

if the parent class defined OnMouseOver then the child will hide it, unless:

the parent's definition is set as virtual and the child definition is set as override

public override void OnMouseOver()
{
    base.OnMouseOver();
} //in child

BlueBug

wooha that's clever :D

Alex M.

17:18

public virtual void OnMouseOver()
{
} //in parent

BlueBug

ty <3

John McDonald

@Kikaimaru Neat

Alex M.

17:32

@Kikaimaru cool

Lasse

@Kikaimaru That's cool, but the text of the node 1 goes past the view area and I can't see the whole text

Kikaimaru

@Lasse ive tested it only in chrome

Lasse

I got chrome

Kikaimaru

https://googledrive.com/host/0B9F2GW2Uh2K0MlR1V2RJXzVLWWc/game.html

here you can play it

its probably copyrighted thou, so if you want to play it buy a gamebook or whatever :)

Lasse

ah so it's only the tree viewer

Kikaimaru

17:35

Yes, when i played it as a child i could never finish it so i was wondering why, and i figured out that you need to find key with page number written on it and it will take you somewhere else, and without it you cant finish the game

its drawn as dotted line in a graph

Lasse

yeah, that's cool

Kikaimaru

Everything else in graph is generated by few regexes over OCR scan of gamebook

Over the weekend i removed more then 200+ classes (hopefuly useless) from project at work and now im just wondering if it will successfuly deploy to server tomorrow morning :)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

19:24

Hmm

What's the max texture size normally?

As in, what's most common?

4096x4096?

Hmm.. Dx10 and above supports 8192x8192.

Kevin van der Velden

4096 is probably supported most everywhere

Though I'd aim for 2048 unless absolutely necessary, to support hardware with smaller GPU memory

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Yeah. Was just a thought

BlueBug

o_o what do you even plan to do with such a humongous texture

Kevin van der Velden

Texture atlassing I'm guessing

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I was thinking of storing a tileworld in a texture. :P

Kevin van der Velden

19:30

You can do some cool stuff with that

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I have a pixelshader that turns colors into tiles for rendering

R/G are the X/Y of a texture.

BlueBug

i c.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

But I'll just go with the current approach where I just shift the view around. It's plenty of fast enough.

Lasse

19:44

oh the memories

Pip

20:29

Pip is in the house!

Jovito

@Pip hey

@Lasse you're there?

Lasse

yes

Pip

hey

sup, all?

Lasse

voxels, man

Jovito

@Lasse I'm having some problems understanding the math behind the curveball movement. Would you explain to me in a little more detail?

Lasse

20:38

I'm rewriting my voxel mesh generator for the 4th time now

@Jovito which part of it you do not understand?

Pip

I saw in the transcript :P

Jovito

@Lasse is it okay if we move this to another room?

Lasse

sure, just invite me

I like the color theme here a lot more than the SO chat theme

Noctrine

20:58

@Lasse I can change that theme for you :p - in general you just gotta say the room belongs to gdse tho

Lasse

:D

no need

Pip

lol

Alex M.

21:20

Glow-in-the-dark roads make debut in Netherlands
They look beautiful, but they could also save a lot on streetlight power. http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/04/glow-in-the-dark-roads-make-debut-in-netherlands/

Pip

cool

so @AlexM.

sup?

Noctrine

Those would be the best thing here :(

Pip

lol

Noctrine

Anyway, tired of working for now. Time to procrastinate

Alex M.

@Pip PEEEEEP

wassup

this just hit me... Pip wasn't here during...

INCIDENT X

John McDonald

21:36

Hmm, anyone familiar with getting Google Analytics to work with PhoneGap Build?

Pip

lol

@AlexM. I was too (in the transcript)

the hamster crisis

Alex M.

you mean

INCIDENT X

Pip

21:50

lol

you just flipped the image :P

Alex M.

nope, I turned my head around

Pip

lol

Alex M.

The Dubai Mall

The Dubai Mall is the world's largest shopping mall based on total area and fourteenth largest by gross leasable area. Located in Dubai, United Arab Emirates (U.A.E), it is part of the 20-billion-dollar Downtown Dubai complex, and includes 1,200 shops. Access to the mall is provided via Doha Street, rebuilt as a double-decker road in April 2009. Twice delayed, Dubai Mall opened on 4 November 2008, with about 635 retailers, marking the world's largest-ever mall opening in retail history. However it is not the largest in gross leasable space, and is surpassed in that category by sever...

The Dubai Mall is the world's largest shopping mall based on total area and fourteenth largest by gross leasable area.

I need to go there.

John McDonald

yeah... I'm not a mall guy, but I wasn't terribly impressed when I went. shrug

Mind you, I was in the area for work, not for pleasure. I'd have chosen somewhere else for pleasure

Alex M.

I'm fine as long as they have IT shops inside

and McDonald's

BlueBug

22:04

I don't go to a mall unless I have things I need. I feel like "going mall" without clear list of things to purchase is like "drinking just to get drunk".

Alex M.

or any other fast food restaurant

BlueBug

but again, getting drunk occasionally for fun is not bad.

John McDonald

@AlexM. You don't have fast food where you live?

Alex M.

of course I do

John McDonald

j/k

Alex M.

22:05

I just enjoy going to malls, buying whatever I see and like then eating some stuff

like when I go to the beach I just avoid the beach as much as possible and take the bus to the malls

John McDonald

I'm trying to remember if it was this mall, or one the other dozen gigantic malls in Dubai/Abu Dhabi that has a scheduled "rain storm" every couple hours

Alex M.

that's uh my way to spend a holiday

John McDonald

They dim the lights, and play some rain sounds. lol

Alex M.

sounds interesting

rolfl

Rainforest Cafe?

They do that.... great if you are, like, 5 years old

John McDonald

22:07

heh, no, this was the entire mall

BlueBug

Alex M.

fun meant for rich people seems childlike in nature to me

I don't find anything to be bad in that though

BlueBug

oh. my. god. I never had such scene in my childhood. I. Must. Go.

Alex M.

I'm a child on the inside anyway

rolfl

Rainforest Cafe

Rainforest Cafe is a themed restaurant chain owned by Landry's, Inc. of Houston, Texas. It was founded by entrepreneur Steven Schussler. The first location opened in the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota on February 3, 1994. In 1997, the chain consisted of only six restaurants, all in the United States. In 1998, the plan was to build 10 additional restaurants in the United States, seven in Mexico and five in the UK over the decade. In 2000, the Rainforest Cafe was bought by Landry's Restaurants Inc., a company specializing in dining, hospitality, entertainment, and gaming, based ...

Jovito

22:08

@AlexM. is that so?

Alex M.

of course

John McDonald

Video of simulated rain storm inside Abu Dhabi mall

Alex M.

shit that is awesome

LeSam

hi

John McDonald

Hello

LeSam

22:11

hey

Jovito

hey ho

BlueBug

hey ;)

Alex M.

hi

LeSam

I need to know if the Origin of a Sprite change his position in Libgdx

nice welcome

Jovito

baaaah

BlueBug

22:11

huehuehuehue

Alex M.

YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID HI

BlueBug

^ lesson taught.

Alex M.

I won't help you because you didn't.

HAH

John McDonald

@LeSam Like... if the origin moves on its own?

LeSam

libgdx.badlogicgames.com/nightlies/docs/api/com/badlogic/gdx/…

If I change the origin x and y

will it change the sprite position

Lasse

22:14

no

that will just move the point of which the sprite rotates around

John McDonald

> A Sprite also has an origin around which rotations and scaling are performed (that is, the origin is not modified by rotation and scaling). The origin is given relative to the bottom left corner of the Sprite, its position.

Lasse

not sure if that's right in libgdx

it just moves the origin, not the corner of the sprite

BlueBug

yeah that was a bit confusing example, not good.

Lasse

fff I so want to get past of this part where I'm trying to figure out why my triangles aren't appearing

I want to do some cool stuff, like texturing those damn voxels

John McDonald

:D Finally got my game to work with Google Analytics on my phone!

Pip

22:22

nice!

Lasse

also why is this thing inverted T_T

my mesh generator is now generating the mesh from the voxels so that it's filling the air with blocks, and where the blocks should be there's air

why is this so hard

Pip

lol

LeSam

ok thanks you all

@john

John McDonald

:) No problem

Lasse

I wonder if they sell logic soda in the market

I'd need some now

my logic fails, I have no idea why this is inverted

I've been thru this at least three times from the beginning to the end, and I still think it shouldn't be inverted

John McDonald

22:35

:/ That sucks

I know nothing about 3D, but sometimes explaining it to someone helps

Lasse

okay, I'll try

-x is to the left, +x to the right, +y up -y down, +z forward and -z backward, right?

John McDonald

remembers the episode of House where his assistants left and he decided to bring in 3 random people just to talk to

Lasse

that was a good episode

so, my chunk tree handles everything about the compression and stuff, so I just need to query blocks from it with xyz coordinates

like

if(Blocks.HasBlock (x, y, z))

John McDonald

ok

Lasse

And that actually does return true when there is a... oh wait does it? I've not outputted that yet

testing

Block block = new Block {
	ID = 1,
	Modifier = 0
};

chunk.Blocks.SetBlock(ref block, 3,10,3);
chunk.Blocks.SetBlock(ref block, 4,20,4);

Console.WriteLine ("Block at 3,10,3: {0}", chunk.Blocks.HasBlock (3, 10, 3));
Console.WriteLine ("Block at 3,10,3: {0}", chunk.Blocks.HasBlock (4, 20, 4));

Block at 3,10,3: False
Block at 3,10,3: False

There's my problem

mathguy

22:41

I was making a game and was looking for sprites. I am looking for sprites similar to the one in Time Crisis. Does anyone know where I could find some? They don't have to be from Time Crisis. Thank you for all help!

Lasse

why the hell is that inverted? T_T

mathguy

Oh sorry for interrupting, I'll ask my question later. I didn't realize something was still going on.

Lasse

Don't worry about interrupting, I'm just rubber ducking here

@mathguy have you tried opengameart.com?

mathguy

opengameart.com? it says the website is for sale right now

Lasse

oops, org

mathguy

22:43

oh its .org, thanks, I'll take a look at that

Lasse

opengameart.org

John McDonald

phew

Without opengameart.org, I'd have no hope in the next game jam

Lasse

works :D

John McDonald

:D

Lasse

I'm so happy now

and I didn't even have to explain it lot

damn this rubber ducking is effective

John McDonald

22:53

heh, ikr?!

Lasse

my texture coordinates seems to be missing

Ali.S

@JohnMcDonald so the next jam is already starting?

John McDonald

No, it'll likely be in the summer

Ali.S

@JohnMcDonald so how do you if you need any art at all? :P

John McDonald

hah, because I always need some kind of art

(or at least I've used open art in all 3 of the jams so far)

Pip

23:02

lol

@Lasse nice job man

Lasse

thanks :)

Pip

did you see the updated MT post?

I updated it a while ago

Lasse

yeah, I saw it, nice :)

Pip

:)

Pip

23:24

so.....

how about that game dev?

:)

John McDonald

:) It's going well

Pip

lol

rolfl

I hate that too... like who would put the enter key so damn close to '

John McDonald

yeah, the ' key is too close to the enter key

Pip

yeah

Lasse

23:27

it's true

Pip

teechnically..... that is the incorrect key to use there

Lasse

but it's easier

Pip

you are supposed to use the apostrophe key, next to the 1, below the esc key

Lasse

oh you got that there

John McDonald

heh, nobody uses that

rolfl

23:28

Back-tick? No!

Pip

yus

John McDonald

And if you used here, it would do some fun stuff

Pip

true

Lasse

I got that next to the backspace, and § is next to 1

rolfl

Time to rope in the english-language folk... ;-)

Pip

23:29

ah

:)

there was one in here for a while..... she left for some reason

Lasse

one?

Pip

yeah

her name started with a k....

Lasse

oh kalina

Pip

yeah

Lasse

she didn't join in in the last flagfest

I wonder why

Alex M.

23:30

haven's seen kalina in weeks

I have no idea why she was mentioned now though

Lasse

because english

Alex M.

well actually kalina is on the bridge as usual

what's the link between kalina and english?

Lasse

I don't know, ask pip

Pip

there was a question of hers on english I think

Alex M.

Flyk, Earth

440 1 14

Lasse

23:32

oh I'm supposed to wake up in 4 hours

Alex M.

this is kalina on EL&U

Pip

um

alright

Lasse

and then I need to do some schoolwork in a group, I wonder if I need sleep

"in a group" well, I do, the others watch me do

Alex M.

whoa the guys on EL&U made a chatroom for playing hangman with a bot

Lasse

well that's appropriate for english chat

Pip

23:35

cool

link?

Alex M.

♦ Hangman room

A room for playing hangman and such.

rolfl

0

Q: Which is the correct 'apostrophe' to use when typing? ' (quote) or ` (back-tick)

A recent discussion came up in GameDev that suggests that when you are using apostrope for abbreviations, that the correct apostrophe to use when typing is the back-tick (on US Keyboards below the excape-key - left of the 1)... Questions about the difference between the single-quote, and the apo...

punctuation abbreviations apostrophe

John McDonald

lol

Pip

nice

Alex M.

@Pip if you want to advertise the hilites please make a network-wide ad

just dropping the link in chatrooms especially after going there for the first time will just make everyone here look bad

rolfl

23:50

I am not often perplexed by English-language question, and this discussion is a new one for me. The confidence you expressed in the way you said that made me stop and think..... and, I honestly don't know. It is a good question.

Pip

@AlexM. howhowhow?

Alex M.

with photoshop

Pip

@rolfl tanks :)

Alex M.

or paint.net

or whatever

Pip

no, how do I post it network-wide

Alex M.

23:53

go to meta and search for community ads

@IcyDefiance wasn't here today

if he doesn't decide to further iterate the unanswered q ad, I'll just work on it myself and put it up

Pip

alright

Alex M.

you should make one for the hilites

add your game's logo on it and make it interesting like

"Malware Tycoon"

"Check it out here > "

or something

Lasse

why do my cubes look flat? I know they are unit size but they still render squeezed

Pip

alright!

@Jon do you have a transparent version of the Malware Tycoon logo?

Alex M.

since he just took your final logo and edited it roughly

I'd say no

♦ Hangman room

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