Game Development

Pip

00:01

cool

Probs next weekend, I will try it out

Eating Chinese food (Sesame Chicken and Dumplings) then banana cream pudding. Such a good combination.

hasherr

00:29

@Pip Sesame chicken is the shit

Alex M.

php.net/manual/en/language.variables.superglobals.php

superglobal

it's like a global but super

hasherr

why does everything in PHP have a $ before it?

Icy Defiance

those are variables

hasherr

Whenever I see a PHP script it's like I'm looking at lisp but with dollar signs instead of parentheses

Icy Defiance

well, with the exception of constants, or defined variables, or whatever they're called. those don't have $'s

hasherr

00:31

Is it a necessary attribute or is it just a convention?

Icy Defiance

it's necessary. the $ means it's a variable.

hasherr

Hmm.

Why is PHP frowned upon so much?

Alex M.

@hasherr variables in Prolog must always start with an uppercase letter or an underscore

Icy Defiance

partly because it's not really consistent with itself, so using it occasionally gets annoying, but mostly because php is very, very easy to use badly.

Alex M.

it's almost impossible to realize that w/o reading about it

Icy Defiance

00:33

many people write extremely messy code with php

hasherr

PHP is like me. It messes code up very easily :P

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Dubstep :P

Alex M.

mysqli_query($con, "INSERT INTO Users (username, password) VALUES('".$user."', '".$pass."')");

plain text passwords up in this bitch

hasherr

Gross.

BlueBug

00:57

@hasherr liked. that vocal so dope.

Alex M.

I'm not sure what's happening here

BlueBug

rat escapes cat; kung fu rat. ChopPapPat

Pip

01:21

@hasherr aww yeah

anyone heard pharrel william's song Happy?

I was bored, so I am arranging it for a jazz band

Alex M.

a night at hotel savoy in london can get to 2298 gbp

that's almost $4k

what the fuck

Pip

01:48

wow

BlueBug

not meant for me :(

BlueBug

02:07

but why even 4k, do they serve gold?

Alex M.

dunno LOL

here this should be closed for being so fucking deep it underflows and gets to be 10000 light years away from earth

0

Q: What is the meaning of life?

More than 200+ billion people say "life" around 1 day, or 1 week. What is life? What means life? What is the meaning of life? Who made life? Why do we exist?

look at the tags

BlueBug

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Christian Careaga

02:23

@Pip Hey!

Pip

hey

Sorry I didn't hear your ping

but

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play it

nao

lol

Alex M.

that vid sent to every raging cs, lol, whatever player

Pip

absolutely

Alex M.

gah I'm sleepy but I somehow don't want to sleep

Pip

lol

My arrangemwnt of "Can't Hold Us" finally has a saxophone part

if you'll wait a bit, I'l upload it to youtube

Christian Careaga

02:42

hows this look

Alex M.

it looks like a parchment, but in the wrong format

use .png with transparent background

Christian Careaga

I know, I just pasted to snaggy to show it

Alex M.

looks cool to me

what're you gonna use it for?

Christian Careaga

Its an rpg text box, im making a couple of mock ups

It need to be medieval, any ideas

Alex M.

yes

put some religious motifs

like crosses and shit, and crusades

and people becoming dumber

Christian Careaga

02:48

interesting

Alex M.

Christian Careaga

possibilitiy

Alex M.

if you make charles of testa a playable character, people will love it

Pip

03:03

back

listen to this

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aww yeah

I will be right back

restarting my computer

audio drivers somehow got messed up

Alex M.

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Christian Careaga

03:23

99 commits of Necromonster

user4704

04:13

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Q: Where does event-based audio fit in a component-based entity system?

Assuming the underlying low level audio logic is encapsulated in some outside class... what is the best way to add audio effects to a component-based entity framework? I am taking the approach that entities are just IDs and a type of database is used to associate components with entity IDs. T...

entity-system audio

user4704

More of this...

user4704

I don't get why people fall into this design paralysis so easily...

Aidan Mueller

07:28

If I could go back in time...

I would go to myself.

And ask "do you really want to learn how to become a game developer?".

Oooooor I might just go even earlier and give myself a head start.

Kikaimaru

09:20

Hi guys, when my sprite animation plays sprite laying on ground how should property telling that this sprite should be sorted in different way be called?

ToddersLegrande

10:35

@Kikaimaru I don't know exactly what you mean

Kikaimaru

when player dies, it plays dead animation where he is just dead lying on the ground, such sprites should be drawn under other sprites, even if sprite1.y > sprite2.y

ToddersLegrande

Layer?

Layer, Z, something along those lines?

Sort Order

user92578

11:19

Why is this chat always so quiet in the weekends? Do people have lives or something?

ToddersLegrande

Don't worry. I got drunk early last night and passed out at like 9 so I'm here now!

Gin and Tonic is such a strong drink. Especially when you make them strong.

Alex M.

eyyyyyyy saturday at work again, with just me in the building

there's this other guy coming saturdays but for some reason we don't sync

time to get that cheeseburger in

ToddersLegrande

I enjoy being the only one at work... happens a lot when I go in at like 4 or 5am

Generally don't go in on weekends. If I'm weekend working I'll do it from home

Alex M.

I should ask if they're okay with me using the work license of unity pro at home

though I'd really rather just keep everything on work PCs

makes my own feel less... tainted

ToddersLegrande

11:45

Assuming Unity is ok with that (I don't know how Unity licensing works) that shouldn't be an issue. Companies just generally have an issue if you then take that license and use it for non work things

Alex M.

it's login based so it activates instantly the moment you log in w/ an account having pro

ToddersLegrande

Ah interesting

So... you have to be online to use Unity Pro?

Alex M.

only when you activate the license

ToddersLegrande

Ah alright

Alex M.

like, on the dialogue that says "Activate trial or I have a license"

or use free

music drop

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ToddersLegrande

12:02

Oh ya. I vaguely remember that dialog now haha

user92578

Is there going to be a GDSE Game Jam soon?

Alex M.

yes

sometime during early April

user92578

Is it going to be like the previous one (only web) or something else?

Alex M.

regarding the song I put up above, when I got my new headphones and heard the part at 5:46 I was like O_O

@Tyyppi_77 web only, probably

avoids users coming with Nokia n-gage builds

user92578

Okay, I guess if I want to participate I need to start learning some HTML5 tricks...

user92578

12:08

And get a host or something

Alex M.

or use Unity

or Flash

and Dropbox

or Godot

Godot exports to HTML5

GameMaker also exports to HTML5 but is not free

user92578

Is DropBox good?

user92578

For putting up a web page

Alex M.

it's good for hosting your single game

dropbox is somewhere where you backup your files

and you just make the html public

user92578

Can I use a username with Dropbox?

Alex M.

12:12

what do you mean?

user92578

Like can I use Tyyppi_77 instead of my real name there?

user92578

Aaaaand it turns out that I can't install the application because I don't have adminstrator rights on my computer ._.

user92578

Thanks, Dad!

Alex M.

yes, you can use tyyppi

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. we should set a date like... now

give people lots of notice

oh crap

I won't be around

Alex M.

12:18

you need to make the backend :D

ToddersLegrande

going to NY for 2 weeks beginning of April

I don't need to make the backend for us to set a date

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

DYNAMIC WITHOUT GENERICS IS UGLY!

Alex M.

I'll take care of the date tomorrow, and make some announcements

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It's all your fault @Todders!

Alex M.

however, if we announce we host it externally, and we don't manage to get it done on time

we'll look really bad :(

ToddersLegrande

12:20

I don't think that needs to be announced yet but I'll see about throwing something together today

Really what were looking to do shouldn't take very long

Alex M.

aight

so... April 1st?

haha

ToddersLegrande

A Tuesday? Seems legit

Alex M.

dang

I'll ask noctrine to help us with the clocks

ToddersLegrande

Just make it exactly the same with different dates?

Alex M.

but the tradition is for noctrine to set it!

:(

ToddersLegrande

12:23

lol well whatever

Alex M.

more trance

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GENIUS LOL

ToddersLegrande

haha

ToddersLegrande

12:59

Apparently the app store averaged a new Flappy Bird clone every 24 minutes. joystiq.com/2014/03/06/…

user92578

I'm smelling a theme for the Jam... :D

Alex M.

I don't want to set a theme

for once, let the people come up with whatever they like

I want to see lots of nice games

so the theme should be "let's make a game"

user92578

The reason I do Jams (I have yet to actually do one) is the fact that they set a theme

Alex M.

:(

GnomeSlice

Cyberpunk Jam

Alex M.

13:03

that means you don't do jams

GnomeSlice

7 day roguelike jam

Procedural Death Jam

=]

jammmmmmmmmms

Alex M.

@GnomeSlice the winter gd.se gamejam

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Q: The 2014 GDSE Winter Game Jam

The jam has ended! And by the number of votes, John McDonald is the winner! Congratulations to everyone who participated in the jam! See you next time, sometime during late Spring. Please review all posted answers and upvote the games that you like! Voting will end on Sunday, the 9th of Fe...

discussion gamejam-2014-winter

GnomeSlice

@AlexM. Cool!

Those ones I linked are on right now though.

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. propose that on your suggestions post

I'll vote for it

@GnomeSlice coulda just linked compohub.net

:P

GnomeSlice

@ToddersLegrande Cheater

ToddersLegrande

13:06

Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A

Alex M.

0

A: Ideas for the 2014 Spring GameJam

I'd like to see as many and as nice games as possible; I think that's the best to get out of a jam. I was thinking that allowing the participants to decide what their games should be about is the best way to achieve this. Removing the specific theme will indeed nullify the imagination exercise, b...

also this

philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=votes

ToddersLegrande

How did that even get approved for a beta? o_O

I guess good philosphy questions and answers will always fall under good subjective?

Alex M.

you can always say stuff like

user92578

But won't the answer be quite often depending on the answerers oppinion?

Alex M.

from X's POV this is...

and from Y's POV this is...

where X and Y are schools of thought

basically following the teaching of different philosophers

ToddersLegrande

13:17

So a good answer contains a compilation of as many schools of thought as possible? Otherwise there is that whole "no one right answer" thing

Alex M.

shrug dunno

but there are colleges focused on philosophy so there must be something you can ask and answer w/o it being opinion based

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Q: Can you prove anything in philosophy?

I don't understand philosophy very well, and so I am wondering whether you can "prove" anything in philosophy. It always seems you can go a layer down, and find another question, almost endlessly until you get to the question of "why/how/are we here here?" Can you prove, absolutely, and 100% tha...

logic proof metaphilosophy

relevant

ToddersLegrande

1004

Philosophy – philosophy.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for those interested in logical reasoning.

Currently in public beta.

1004 days in beta

Alex M.

lol

you'd think they'd get bored by now

ToddersLegrande

Being strict to the SE format, my opinion is that questions about philosophy likely would be acceptable, but philosophical questions are probably bad... if that makes sense.

Alex M.

like this one

-5

Q: What is the meaning of life?

More than 200+ billion people say "life" around 1 day, or 1 week. What is life? What means life? What is the meaning of life? Who made life? Why do we exist?

meaning which-what which-who

ToddersLegrande

13:22

haha yeah

Alex M.

13:33

it seems orthello's tweens can be paused

it's just not documented on their site :\

ToddersLegrande

Intellisense ftw? :P

Alex M.

nah, I just opened their sources, wondering what happens when I set two identical tweens on the same property but w/ diff targets

it's also my fault for not checking their Doxygen

I use Vim with Unity

Alex M.

14:10

when I use Orthello's text stuff it keeps on rebuilding the damn resources every time the scene changes

so if I move something around in the editor, it slows down to like 1 fps

fuck this shit

and unity's gui is so counter-intuitive in this situation

I think it's just faster to have a separate sprite for each digit :\

hasherr

Ughh, I have one bug. ONE BUG. AND THEN I CAN RELEASE

Alex M.

14:35

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this sort of makes anything you do while it's playing in the background seem slightly comical

Pip

heyo

hey @ToddersLegrande

hasherr

2

Pip

Interesting discussion here:

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Q: Is it appropriate for an employer to ask skilled professionals to do manual labor?

Although I think it applies to many positions, I am a software developer (mid-level). The company is rather small (30-40). Recently, my employer brought up the idea that to help another department, me and the other software developer may be called upon to do various manual tasks such as moving b...

professionalism software-industry work-environment

@hasherr so true

Alex M.

@hasherr I swear I don't ever get this kind of stuff

I never had such issues :\

Pip

although mine don't usually get above 5 or 6 at a time

hasherr

14:37

Ugh, I can't get this thing to work

Pip

@AlexM. same here

hasherr

ONE BUG

ONE

Alex M.

@Pip then why do you say "so true"

jackie chan my brain is full of fuck pic here

Pip

because I've seen it happen to other people (Not the sheer amount, but the fact that they fix one bug and more pop up)

hasherr

I'm experiencing it right now.

Alex M.

14:39

@Pip when that happens I become stealthy

and let others take care of the issue

Pip

lol

Alex M.

dat wheel reinventing

Pip

lol

what should I do today?

I only have a few hours, at the most

Alex M.

masturbate wildly and violently

hasherr

That is the teenage way.

Pip

14:49

lol

Pip

15:01

for anyone who wants to play my cookie clicker save

I will pastebin it

Alex M.

I'm having a serious problem with overestimating things :\

Pip

why?

Alex M.

because whatever I say something's going to take, it takes way less

(time)

Pip

ah

time for me to find something to do.... I think Hearthstone

cya later Alex

whoops :P

Alex M.

cya

	private void generateDigitSprites(int score)
	{
		int s = score;
		while (s != 0)
		{
			_currentDigits.Add(OT.CreateSprite((s % 10).ToString()));
			s = s / 10;
		}
	}

it's probably been 5 years since I last had to do this

the only way to get rid of my overestimating issue is to gain more experience :\

I guess overestimating is better than underestimating for whoever has expectations

but it sucks when organizing work because you end up realizing you could have done more in each particular burst, and you fragment the milestones unnecessarily

gah, again

I had no idea what the quickest and best approach to getting that score on screen was

so I said it would take 3 hours

turned out I did it in 40 mins :\

Pip

15:46

back for a little bit

played two games of Hearthstone <3

TorbenC

15:59

I just saw some code that looks like very bad voodoo.
KillJobPool();
// Give the threads a second to clean themselves up before exiting
Sleep(512);
ForceKillAllJobs()

Alex M.

depends on the context

I'd be very mad if my OS didn't force kill processes eventually, when shutting down

TorbenC

Not the force kill

The sleep to "give threads a second to clean themselves"

Alex M.

so... how would you have done it?

TorbenC

There is no guarantee a thread is clean by the time it wakes up

Alex M.

uh

TorbenC

16:04

Clean up everything and then send a message to the main thread reporting it is done and ready to be killed, after all threads have reported, kill all threads

Alex M.

that's the same as joining the threads

and hanging up the main thread until everything is clean

which may never happen

why the fuck would you force kill threads if you also want to wait for them to finish?

TorbenC

"I'd be very mad if my OS didn't force kill processes"

Alex M.

yes

TorbenC

...

Alex M.

I'd be very mad if my OS waited for each process to finish by itself

TorbenC

16:05

Just wondering

You don't think this is an OS code segment right?

Alex M.

I don't care what it comes from

when the main thread needs to be killed immediately, you give child threads a brief time, if any, to clean up, then you force kill them all

TorbenC

You seem cranky btw.

Alex M.

alright, done talking

TorbenC

Cool

Alex M.

you seem to be incapable of following a topic anyway, it's not the first time you do it

TorbenC

16:08

Oooooh

I remember you

You're always cranky

Or at least, have conversational problems

You're just pissed off because I reported you that one time for your ridiculous posts.

Alex M.

I really should stop spending time here during work

TorbenC

Yeah, get to work.

Alex M.

seeing the kind of idiots that exist in the world, I always get sad

something must be breeding them

TorbenC

They don't pay you to sit and chat with people online.

Alex M.

I'm out, before I get a huge INT hit from this guy

TorbenC

16:10

Good luck keeping your job..

ToddersLegrande

@TorbenC being a jerk isn't necessary.

TorbenC

ToddersLegr: Of course but he's been a jerk to me since I first met him, I'm not going to just not say anything anymore. But honestly, mentioning how stupid it is to goof off at work is not really being a jerk...

@ToddersLegrande Meant to ping.

hasherr

16:54

Does anybody know what a keystore file is?

MickLH

17:11

@hasherr it's full of public keys, although could contain secrets also

Leggy7

17:24

hej

anyone good in building shaders?

MickLH

hej!

Stack Exchange

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Q: Game Developer stackoverflow too restricted / moderated

I'm a bit irritated how you handle things in the game developer stack overflow. While it's is common practice on stackoverflow.com to share your personal knowledge and way to solve it, while here you are restricting discussions and different opinions/ways to solve a problem. Maybe this is the ...

discussion support

hasherr

17:41

@StackExchange Why do you keep coming back. NO ONE LIKES YOU

@MickLH How do I get one? I don't understand.

MickLH

@hasherr what do you want one for? are you trying to download files in your app?

hasherr

I'm trying to generate a signed app to put up on the Marketplace

MickLH

ah, if you don't have a private key, you can just generate one

hasherr

Yeah, I managed to create my own key

MickLH

then you can generate a public key from your private key

hasherr

17:56

I generated my .apk and now I'm just going to test it to make sure it works

hasherr

18:09

ToddersLegrande

awwww ya

hasherr

:)

It'll take a while, but it's finally done.

I'll post the link when it's up.

ToddersLegrande

I'll star the link when its up :D

Aidan Mueller

Hello.

Imma back.

ToddersLegrande

About damn time Aidan

hasherr

18:12

@ToddersLegrande Thanks, friend :)

I can finally call myself a mobile developer

Aidan Mueller

@ToddersLegrande I am writing a language specification.

Wanna take a look?

ToddersLegrande

Sounds significantly lower level than my knowledge so I'll have to pass. I'm one of those bad developers who quite like it up hear in the high level programming world.

Aidan Mueller

@ToddersLegrande Too bad. Here you go anyway:

Variables:

Basic variables are deined by size. The basic varibles are:

* byte  - 1 byte
* word  - 2 bytes
* dword - 4 bytes
* qword - 8 bytes

To create a new varible, you write the type of the
     variable, followed by the name of the varible:

    dword foo

"dword" and "qword" can be replaced by their aliases
  "dwd" and "qwd" to make your life easier:

    dwd foo
    qwd bar

@ToddersLegrande It'll be pretty basic.

hasherr

@AidanMueller Cool, what's it for?

Aidan Mueller

@hasherr For fun.

@hasherr I got the idea from this: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/22468/…

hasherr

18:19

Neat. Joapet was doing something similar several months ago, but I'm pretty sure he's abandoned it.

ToddersLegrande

I didn't understand Joapet's ambitions but oh well

The whole random thing just confused me

Aidan Mueller

I may never actually implement it, but if I like the way it looks, I will try.

hasherr

Well, he didn't just want to make an interpreter, but an entire language in itself

He wanted to change the keywords in Java to Norwegian, that was his big thing

Aidan Mueller

A language isn't defined by the interpreter/compiler, it is defined by the spec.

hasherr

I don't think he really grasped the idea.

Aidan Mueller

18:24

Is it wrong to refer to non-programmers as "normal people"?

ToddersLegrande

probably

Alex M.

18:38

home at last

time to code some more

Aidan Mueller

@AlexM. Where were you?

Alex M.

at work

it was quite a productive day

we might just release by Friday next week

Aidan Mueller

You work at some sort of game company?

Alex M.

yup

in the end my estimate for the score thingy was accurate; it's just that I forgot I still had to do another part of it

it did take 3 hours after all

Aidan Mueller

Is it a big company like activision?

Alex M.

18:41

no

it's as small as a company can be

Aidan Mueller

I probably haven't heard of it then.

Alex M.

most likely

Geany is as awesome as it used to be way before too

it's like the Code::Blocks of everything

and dat terminal tab at the bottom

dang I love that one

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