Game Development

endrohat

09:00

i had made my first game in android canvas

radical

Okk, cool. What was it about ?

endrohat

it was a card game

radical

Okok..

Released it on the store ?

endrohat

yes. but its buggy. and laggy

i want to implement this using libgdx

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vin.mendhicoat

radical

Cool

Kevin van der Velden

09:20

Morning

radical

Morning

M. Salih Kocak

Morning guys

pheww nobody is here

radical

09:38

Heh hi

I am here, but am just leaving

Alex M.

10:16

yo

@hasherr I've seen the logs and unignored you

just try to be nicer and more down to gd.se's chatroom

there's the douche who just does his job and you laugh at him

and there's the douche who is just depressing even if he's not talking to you

if you want to be one, be like the first

though it's usually a better idea to not be one at all :D

endrohat

10:32

whatsup

Alex M.

sup endro

endrohat

tea

Alex M.

you've piqued my interest

what kind of tea is it?

Lasse

roof

endrohat

just a regular one

Lasse

10:35

I think there are several regular teas, depending on where you live

Alex M.

yes

Lasse

in asia that would be green tea, in uk it would be black I believe

endrohat

well there is no special name for it

nah

green tea is different

i would go with black

with milk

Alex M.

you can still tell us the name of the plant the tea was made with you know

black and green usually come from the Camellia Sinensis plant

endrohat

well let me check the plant name from the brand

i usually dont worry much about such stuff

Camellia sinensis

ya same

Alex M.

10:41

what brand is the tea?

endrohat

tata

Alex M.

oh you live in india

endrohat

yes

Alex M.

Assam tea comes from your country

(it is also from the Camellia Sinensis plant)

endrohat

the flavor differs from place to place

they dont usually mention that on the pack

Alex M.

10:43

I normally have my tea with sugar, but sometimes I take my strongest assam & ceylon (comes from sri-lanka, near you) blend

and let it steep for 10+ minutes

and just enjoy the bitter hell that follows

endrohat

oh so u dont add sugar or milk?

Alex M.

it feels as if I refresh my mouth and can taste everything better after it

@endrohat I do add sugar most of the time, that's what I said

endrohat

oh ya

also with the strongest u mean?

Alex M.

it's both rich in caffeine and very bitter if left to steep for too long

endrohat

i add cardamom

Alex M.

10:45

black tea starts becoming bitter after ~2-3 minutes at 90 deg celsius

@radical followed me on github? :D

Alex M.

11:01

also this lol

endrohat

has anybody played the game "project I.G.I"?

it was my first fps

Alex M.

yes

back when I was 10 or something

it was fun

endrohat

so many good memories

Alex M.

I don't have any of them though

endrohat

i hex edited the shit out of it

Alex M.

11:07

I just remember climbing a ladder

and shooting people

it was 10 years ago anyway

11*

(almost)

endrohat

i play it occasionally now .

its fun

Alex M.

►

the game looks amazing but they still didn't get the blood to look right

radical

11:54

@AlexM., heh yeah, I did :)

Alex M.

follo'd you back

github is the best social network ever

oh man I spent too much on games... again

MickLH

hey @radical whats delhi like?

And, I need to speak with @hasherr about something, @grey too

Alex M.

12:13

you need to speak to the youngest users here, both underage

coming from you, that gets me thinking :P

radical

Lol

MickLH

lol noooo radicals the one i need to talk to about that

er... gets you thinking about game dev right!

Alex M.

yeah totally

gamedev

radical

Heh I'm here Mick..

MickLH

@radical you live in a part of iIndia someone wants me to visit

radical

12:18

Ah.. Just delhi or other places in India too ?

MickLH

Just delhi

radical

Delhi is a modern city with lot of history. You will probably find it pretty crowded though..

Alex M.

whoa

looks neat

do you have huge malls in delhi?

radical

Very difficult to describe.. Some parts are very old, historical places, very crowded etc. others are newer, well maintained, big malls etc..

Alex M.

so you do have malls

radical

12:23

Yes, lot of malls here. Though they are it doing so well, profit wise

Alex M.

now I want to visit too

radical

Err.. Excuse the typos, typing on ipad

Lasse

You want to visit all the malls in foreign countries?

Alex M.

yup

Lasse

welcome to finland then, we have the crappiest malls

Alex M.

12:25

especially if they have big IT shops

and awesome restaurants

radical

Oh, the malls don't have it shops. We have 'software parks' for that

Huge places with lot of companies ..

Alex M.

that's even better

radical

Bangalore is better for IT though.. You can find top companies there.. Not the gaming ones though

I was working in Bangalore for few years

Mick, you can find far better info on the net.. But I can probably answer more specific queries .. :/

Alex M.

what about bookstores with extra stuff, not sure what to call them

in Romania there's a chain of bookstores called "Carturesti" but they sell a lot of other stuff

Lasse

what extra stuff?

Alex M.

12:29

like tea, board games and so on

also they're the only ones who sell Skullcandy headphones

and Moleskines

in Romania

MickLH

@radical your info was fine for me :)

Alex M.

it really feels like a hipster heaven from this POV

Lasse

I would never buy skullcandy phones, they have such crappy audio quality

Alex M.

that doesn't help me find a name for the shop tho

let's check google

store / shop, tea, bookstore

Lasse

@AlexM. sounds like that if you ever visit finland, you might want to visit verkkokauppa.com in Helsinki, Tampere or Oulu

Alex M.

12:32

shrug I guess it's a bookstore

radical

There are some shops here like that.. Bangalore had 'landmark' . But no tea, and you can't sit down and play

Alex M.

@radical yeah they let you play board games here

and also they make tea for you if you want

radical

That sounds really nice

Alex M.

the interiors are always clean and neatly organized

Lasse

I know one shop in helsinki like that, you can play board games there and paint warhammer figures

Alex M.

12:33

it's really nice to go there yeah

radical

google.co.in/…

I should move off the ipad now..

Brb

Alex M.

@Lasse is there a big difference between helsinki and the other cities in terms of available shops?

Lasse

well, yeah

Alex M.

@radical looks good!

Lasse

around helsinki there lives about a million people

and there are only 5 million in finland total

so it is the largest single area of shopping and such

Alex M.

12:40

nice, old buildings all over

it's like in my city

Lasse

yeah, helsinki is old city

relatively old

Alex M.

Cluj-Napoca's center:

I was looking to rent an apartment in one of those old buildings

it was funny to see a wooden access staircase

the apartment was great too but it was too small and the owner decided to compensate by building a platform for the bed, on which you could get by using a not very secure-looking staircase

I was too afraid I'd fall down if too sleepy

so I didn't take it

Lasse

I slept my first years of my childhood in a similar bed

never fell down

Alex M.

I hate heights so I'd be too nervous anyway

radical

AlexM., I feel like visiting your city now!

Alex M.

12:46

:D

Lasse

I have visited Cluj-Napoca, it was quite hot for a finn

and I heard it gets even hotter in summer

Alex M.

yup, there are cases of old people dying due to the heat

Lasse

Taxis were so cheap I took one every time I had to go somewhere

Only once I used a bus

Alex M.

my apartment is located on this street (Horea)

there are old buildings pretty much everywhere

radical

cool

Lasse

12:50

hmm I believe I went on top of that hill

not sure

radical

The closest I got to Romania was Salzburg

Alex M.

I traveled to Germany a long time ago and passed through Hungary and Austria, but I don't remember anything anymore

but Austria is one of the countries that I want to explore as much as possible

Karelian pasty (karjalanpiirakka) is a traditional Finnish dish made from a thin rye crust with a filling of rice. Butter, often mixed with boiled egg (eggbutter or munavoi), is spread over the hot pastries before eating.

this looks good

Lasse

and oh boy they taste good

especially with munavoi

there's also a variant where potato is used instead of rice, but they are not as good in my opinion

Alex M.

look at the bump mapping on that building

Lasse

dem bumps

Alex M.

12:59

@Lasse related to Romania being hot

The absolute minimum temperature was −38.5 °C (−37.3 °F), registered near Brașov in 1942. The absolute maximum temperature was 44.5 °C (112.1 °F), recorded at Ion Sion, Brăila County in 1951.

the average in Bucharest during Summer is ~30 deg C

Lasse

that absolute minumum is more familiar for finnish people

Alex M.

record high was 43 deg C in July

Lasse

not that low in here usually, but still

Alex M.

is finland colder than norway or are they similar?

endrohat

over here , if the temperature goes below 20 C , people take out their sweaters

Lasse

13:01

norway is directly on the.. uhh.. whatever that warm stream in the atlantic ocean is in english

radical

endrohat, not in northern India

endrohat

mumbai is hot as hell

Lasse

Gulf Stream

The Gulf Stream, together with its northern extension towards Europe, the North Atlantic Drift, is a powerful, warm, and swift Atlantic ocean current that originates at the tip of Florida, and follows the eastern coastlines of the United States and Newfoundland before crossing the Atlantic Ocean. The process of western intensification causes the Gulf Stream to be a northward accelerating current off the east coast of North America. At about , it splits in two, with the northern stream crossing to Northern Europe and the southern stream recirculating off West Africa. The Gulf Stream in...

that's it

gulf stream

Alex M.

I have found out that Bitdefender (a Romanian antivirus company) advises its programmers to use yoda conditions because 'it reduces the chance to do a = b instead of a == b'

man it'd be hell to work in such a place

Lasse

yoda conditions?

Alex M.

13:04

@Lasse so it's warmer?

@Lasse if (null == reference)

endrohat

a friend of mine likes egyptian braces :/

Alex M.

if (5 == i)

Jon

if (3 <= hat) { 3 = hat;}

Lasse

> Northern parts of Norway lie close to the Arctic zone, most of which is covered with ice and snow in winter. However, almost all of Norway's coast remains free of ice and snow throughout the year.[29] Weather systems warmed by the Gulf Stream drift into Northern Europe, also warming the climate behind the Scandinavian mountains.

So yeah, norway could be a bit warmer

but it has more coastline than finland, and the coast goes up to the northern ice sea too

so I'm not sure about the overall average

endrohat

i wish java had === operator instead of instanceof

Almo

13:08

@AlexM. that's ridiculous

Alex M.

I know

I asked the guy what sort of editors they use, and how they compile

don't they tell the compiler to issue maximum warnings?

Almo

my compiler says "Hey! Did you really mean to do an assignment there?

Since I don't allow any warnings on my projects, it gets noticed.

Alex M.

yup

speaking of which, it pains me when I download a 3rd party plugin for unity

and it introduces warnings :(

I have to manually suppress them all

Almo

oh fuck

there's no excuse for that shit

Alex M.

13:48

ToddersLegrande

On a somewhat related note, Dragonball Z: Battle of Z has proven pretty fun so far

My only complaint would be that the fighting does seem a little shallow / could use a little more depth but its still a good time

Almo

i want to learn how to do that air ring thing

how the hell does that even work. fluid mechanics are a mysterious thing.

Alex M.

dolphins do it too

ToddersLegrande

OH SNAP

I absolutely LOVE how it chomps at it right at the end

makes me giggle

OMNOMNOM

Almo

14:04

wtf man

Alex M.

I'm not very well informed; were people able to build robots capable of taking the pressure found at the lowest point in the ocean?

I'd so want to see a recording of the bottom of the ocean there

Almo

I think so

James Cameron went down there, didn't he?

ToddersLegrande

Obviously he discovered the sunken Titanic

Almo

click that to see it

beluga whales blow these rings, too

Alex M.

it must be fun

ToddersLegrande

14:07

and delicious

Almo

"Bubble rings and smoke rings are both examples of vortex rings—the physics of which is still under active study in fluid dynamics."

that's some freaky-ass shit man

Alex M.

let's not start a deep physics discussion again haha

ToddersLegrande

++

I need timeout privileges for when the room gets unruly... Oh well

Alex M.

with great privileges comes great responsi... chicks

that's what my aunt used to say

she was a lesbian

ToddersLegrande

its probably true

Almo

14:21

@JoshPetrie I have a question for you, but it's not public. Could you email me here [email protected]? It's nothing huge; just not public. :)

BlueBug

14:36

OLLA!

Almo

hi bb

BlueBug

Hi Almo!

Do u use IRC?

I wonder if there is game dev IRC channel.

radical

there is, one on afternet, one on freenode

BlueBug

compare to chat.stackexchange.game_dev, which one would you say "better", if either one of them is better (or just different)

radical

I actually haven't used those much, so can't say.

Almo

14:43

I have used IRC on a few occasions

radical

I used to be logged in there, but was too busy with other stuff at that time, so, ..

Almo

i would prefer this since it links to questions on the site

radical

mostly I was on mono or kernel channels..

BlueBug

I would appreciate some feedback/opinion on IRC(if game-dev related, even better), I am under pressure of using IRC in my class.

radical

in general, irc is great :D on SE, this is pretty much the only good channel that I have found. Most of the opensource devs(non-gamedev) that I know use only IRC

but this is just opinion

not sure if that helps you

BlueBug

14:47

from your experience, IRC, mostly for non-gamedevs?

radical

no no :D I just meant that I have hung out mostly in non-gamedev channels!

BlueBug

aha.

radical

I'm not really a gamedev, i'm a wannabe :D

I remember talking to some people on #gamedev once.. they seemed friendly and helpful

Almo

the cocos2d/iOS/Android SE channel is good

the place to avoid is the C++ Lounge.

radical

yeah, that and this, are the two rooms i hang out in

BlueBug

14:49

u so humble. 2.3k ps.

radical

about this room, IMO, there are people with all kinds of backgrounds, but all very passionate, that is the part i like best

BlueBug

and there are people like myself who declare themselves as the game dev, yet struggle with simple shader effect.

radical

heh this editing thing is nice

Alex M.

game developers make games

not shaders

radical

people here are very welcoming :)

BlueBug

14:54

that's right. and I still call myself the game dev

my ego so big. Me make games.

and I also bash newbies for their lack of experience.

Alex M.

really?

Jon

Once you achieve the title of game dev, everyone else just sucks.

even other game devs suck compared to you.

BlueBug

yes. Very true. It is that I merely notice how better I am inherently.

MickLH

@BlueBug All good, that's what keeps me supplied with steady short-term jobs

BlueBug

lol

I am taking physics-simulation class.
Is it viable(starting from knowing only basic linear/rotation momentum) to make basic rigid shape(box,pyramid..etc) based physics engine within 5 month?

Jon

15:06

no.

LOL, j/k -- you could build a physics engine in a day if you really wanted to.

A realistic one, not so much.

BlueBug

how about, soft body, a towel? Towel simulation.

Kevin van der Velden

@BlueBug much much more difficult

Jon

Soft body is harder -- its the collision response that is difficult, not the collision detection

BlueBug

►

something like this, no?

how about no collision at all, just the clothe like this.

►

user92578

15:26

What's up guys?

user92578

singing Why in the world I'm not able to load my OpenGL texture properly?

Almo

I'm learning how to interview and evaluate programmers

tricky business :(

Jon

hint, they all are horrible.

radical

I would try to generate a small texture, simple checkered pattern, in memory, and use that, just to confirm which side the issue lies

user92578

Good code -> Good programmer

user92578

15:32

Bad code -> Bad programmer

user92578

@radical The problem is not in displaying the texture correctly, but in loading it

radical

are you sure? that is the part that i wanted to confirm

if the generated texture works, then the issue is in loading or accessing the raw image.. if it doesn't, then problem with how you pass the data to opengl

user92578

The program doesn't crash so the problem is probably in the passing data to GL

Icy Defiance

or possibly the shader itself, which can also be fun to debug

Almo

@Tyyppi_77 not that simple; there's the social aspect, and since he's going to be doing a project almost alone, he's gotta have good UI skills.

radical

15:36

he is not using shaders, AFAIK

user92578

No way I'm using shaders

user92578

:)

BlueBug

ah. is there any easy lib for adding sound to c++ projects? I feel like adding sound is way harder than graphic programming.

Almo

fmod

Alex M.

directsound?

BlueBug

15:39

is directsound MS made?

Jon

openal?

Alex M.

@BlueBug yes

Jon

directsound is part of directx

BlueBug

fmod, I tried. It is still too many steps for me. Any even easier lib? Like load(path).play();

Jon

OpenAL

So what are you doing ? writing in pure c++?

Grey

15:42

@MickLH ._o

Jon

Why don't use use SDL or something?

BlueBug

not pure, but c++. Making opengl game. I just wanted to add BG for last touch. It's taking me forever, however.

Jon

ah, well OpenAL has similar syntax to OpenGL

doesn't have any insta .play() functions though

user92578

Once again it's almost time for

user92578

Icy Defiance

15:44

cross out "quit" too. just rage.

it always helps

MickLH

@Grey ?

Grey

4 hours ago, by MickLH

And, I need to speak with @hasherr about something, @grey too

BlueBug

OTL why hadn't anyone make easy load().play() style lib. It's damn sound. I just want to play a music. That's all I want. (sob)

Alex M.

Godot Engine hates buttons that say "OK"

Grey

Or you can x

Alex M.

15:47

yeah

blind people click on x

Grey

It's kind of weird that they have an X button and then an I see... button both which do the same thing

Lol

Alex M.

for obvious reasons

Icy Defiance

sometimes I click the x instead, just because it feels like giving a middle finger to the program for not doing what I wanted

and so we go back to that rage thing

Grey

> Chain Reaction

I want this as a theme

even though I have no idea what to make lol

or replication

BlueBug

O-o i dont know what i had done but my speakers are screamming in pain instead playing beautiful music

MickLH

15:53

@BlueBug lol

user92578

Not a fan of metal music?

user92578

lol

Icy Defiance

hey now, metal screams are not screams of pain. they're screams of power, rage, and general badassery.

Grey

said the metal fan

Wow.

BlueBug

Does it mean that my computer is somehow expressing its feelings through my code

Grey

15:56

This guy keeps asking Unity questions

BlueBug

I must treat it gently now on

Almo

my favorite metal ablum is probably Psalm 69

Alex M.

@IcyDefiance lol you make me feel lame for listening to this right now youtube.com/watch?v=RZuJ_OHBN78 :(

MickLH

as you should

user92578

Yeah

Icy Defiance

15:58

yep

Alex M.

:(

I do agree that metal and screaming is a great way to covey emotions though

some emotions can only be conveyed that way actually

user92578

►

Jon

@AlexM. you still using godot?

Alex M.

yeah

I'm making a game with orbs

Grey

Yes

much support

Alex M.

15:59

hoping to finish it today

Grey

very orb

user92578

wow?

Jon

needs more orbs.

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