Game Development

TheProgramm3r

00:00

you mean def atPort():?

Jovito

its more natural

TheProgramm3r

ah

Jovito

yeah, then that would return true or false

TheProgramm3r

in the Player class or out?

Jovito

instead of setting the variable

TheProgramm3r

00:01

i fail to see why that would be more natural..... can you show me what you mean?

like a sample method?

Jovito

that depends

TheProgramm3r

on what?

Jovito

if anyone else would care to know if your 'player' reached a port.

TheProgramm3r

Ummm.... maybe

Yeah

If he was at a port, the pirates (not implemented yet) would not be able to attack

Jovito

well, in the future you would probably want to make it a state

like

 if not player.check_state('at port'):
    # attack

TheProgramm3r

00:05

ah

hm

good idea

Grey

00:16

I am totally done with PHP for today

Tries to enable safe_mode

doesn't work.

Noctrine

Sup peoples

TheProgramm3r

sup @Noctrine?

Icy Defiance

nm. just making all my stuff disposable.

gotta make GL delete stuff properly.

TheProgramm3r

i am having so much trouble implementing turns.... I don't want to pause the whole loop, but.... how @Jovito?

Noctrine

Ugh need to get to a real machine

TheProgramm3r

00:23

lol

@Noctrine SO TIME!

:P

if anyone wants to answer:

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Q: How to implement turns while still executing the main loop?

I am creating a trading game in Python, and want to know how to implement turns without pausing the gameloop. I know that I will have to change the way movement is implemented, but how would I do that? Note: code can be reached here (May be old): http://pastebin.com/rZbCXk5i

Icy Defiance

haven't done this yet, but first thought is to use a queue

Grey

^ yep

Icy Defiance

turn is over? turnQueue.Enqueue(turnQueue.Dequeue());

aha! I finally figured out exactly what breaks intellisense in VS2012 and 2013.

if there's a syntax error in one file, and I change the name of something in another file, intellisense stops working.

or so it does for me, but it does it every time.

whoo, got render targets working! and it was actually pretty easy.

TheProgramm3r

00:42

cool

Jovito

@TheProgrammer why you're pausing the game in the first place?

wait, let me see your code

TheProgramm3r

pastebin.com/rZbCXk5i

Jovito

yeah

player.goodsNumber = int(input(">>>"))

TheProgramm3r

yeah... that pauses the game.... meh

Jovito

first of all, like I said, you should get rid of that console window

then, in that case you can just assume the player doesn't take anything until he says so.

that way everything keeps rolling

TheProgramm3r

00:47

i will

wait... what?

Jovito

say he reaches the port

TheProgramm3r

player doesn't take anything until he says to?

kk

he reaches the port

Jovito

unless you want him to decide how many goods he wants to take before taking off

TheProgramm3r

yeah

i do

Jovito

still, in that case you'd do something like this

if self.check_state('at port'):
    goods_taken = self.get_input()
    if goods_taken: self.goods += goods_taken

TheProgramm3r

00:52

explain the check_state

never used it

Jovito

then reset its state

that's just an example

TheProgramm3r

can you show me the docs for the state thing?

link?

Jovito

the main thing is that you should stop getting input from the command line

get it from pygame

TheProgramm3r

yeah

i will

Jovito

and the game won't pause anymore

say you have several options

1 - 2 goods
2 - 4 goods
3 - 6 goods
whatever

TheProgramm3r

00:54

mhmm

Jovito

then you could check

TheProgramm3r

how?

Jovito

keys = pygame.key.get_pressed()
if keys["""KEY HERE"""]:
    add goods

TheProgramm3r

ah

i capture the keys for arrow keys already

could add an if statement:

if keys["""KEYS HERE"""] and atPort == True:

Jovito

that's okay, there's plenty of keys available

TheProgramm3r

00:56

yep

Jovito

OR better

TheProgramm3r

or?

Jovito

if keys[key] and self.check_state('at port'):

or

if keys[key] and self.get_state() == 'at port':

whatever

TheProgramm3r

yea

explain the check_state and get_state

never used those

Jovito

that's just an abstraction

TheProgramm3r

00:58

ah

Jovito

yourself would code that

currently I do this

TheProgramm3r

:D

btw

look at the comments on the question

Christain is being helpful, sort of

Jovito

class Player(object):

    VALID_STATES = ['state1', 'state2', 'state3']

    # LOTS AND LOTS OF STUFF

    def check_state(self, state):
        if state in Player.VALID_STATES:
            return self.__state == state

TheProgramm3r

so....

that means

that if a state is valid

it will return true or false?

and would I create another method for setting the state called set_state?

Jovito

that's what the code says :P

yeah

checking for valid states as well

TheProgramm3r

01:02

kk

Icy Defiance

okay, now I really got this renderbuffer thing working.

TheProgramm3r

cool

Icy Defiance

has not ignored your conversation so far

TheProgramm3r

?

Icy Defiance

just felt odd butting into a conversation with my random thing

TheProgramm3r

01:03

lol

@Jovito why the self.__state

what's the significance of the double __

Jovito

pseudo private

TheProgramm3r

oh

how will I keep track of which port I was at? I don't really want people to be able to "farm" the same port

Jovito

I can't tell you everything, Pip. Think about it for a while and if you don't come up with an answer I'll help you.

TheProgramm3r

thanks

should I just declare "atPortA" or "atPortB?"

Jovito

hahaha

no

TheProgramm3r

01:12

damn

:P

Jovito

imagine if you had 5000 ports in your game

see the problem?

TheProgramm3r

yeah

will I get stars for:

flixel is fucking gay!

:P

gotta go

see you tomorrow

hasherr

01:37

hello mis amigos

Jovito

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Matt D

04:20

afternoon

happy friday from the future

Jovito

2 AM here

you like electronic music? @MattD

Matt D

i am currently listening to the rinse.fm mix set of surgeon

Jovito

can I show you something?

Matt D

sure

i am at work though so bear that in mind

Jovito

np

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Matt D

04:45

yes autecher are fantastic

Jovito

(:

Matt D

soundcloud.com/dynamic-tension

surgeon ^

Icy Defiance

06:25

I swear every ECS explanation out there is written by someone who is entirely mental.

Lasse

how come

Icy Defiance

well, I've found some good explanations of what ECS is, but not a single actual example that wasn't written by someone completely high.

been on google for an hour now -.-

Lasse

I have no idea how to make a good one mut I can show my first attempt if you want

I'ts most likely awful

Icy Defiance

can't be worse than the last tutorial I clicked on.

Lasse

let me comment it and zip

Icy Defiance

06:31

ooh I might have finally found something that clicked for me. it's still a horrible tutorial, but I kind of figured things out myself. still interested in your code though.

would a Dictionary<string, object> be a good way to go about this? then I could do Vector2 position = (Vector2)getComponent("position");

Lasse

Yeah, I actually use Type for the keys in my engine, but I don't know if it's any efficient

or any more efficient than strings

Icy Defiance

with that, you wouldn't be able to have multiple components of the same type, would you?

Lasse

do you need to? You can't have multiple of them by using strings either

Icy Defiance

well the string would be the name. say, a Vector3 for position and another Vector3 for rotation. or so I'm thinking about it.

Lasse

but they are not the same components are they?

Icy Defiance

06:41

no, that's the point. if you use Vector3 as the key, which will you get?

or will you make two separate components, each containing a Vector3, one of type Position and one of type Rotation?

Lasse

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27198869/ECS.zip

the most interesting things are most likely in the root and systems

the MotionSystem is not generic, it's made spesifically for the breakout

that's why it checks for the optional stuff

the engine could be optimized by pre-sorting the entities by system using the system filters

Icy Defiance

okay, so you made separate classes for Position and Rotation, each containing a Vector3

Lasse

yes

Icy Defiance

smells like code duplication to me. but then, yours is working, and mine's not. I'll probably be proven wrong later.

thanks for the example though. it's given me other ideas too.

Lasse

oh and looks like the position component has some deprecated code

I'm mostly using the components as flags

I might add a string ID on them to go away from the typing

type*

Actually I might do that now

oh btw did you know about this one cool feature in C# that strings are objects even if just typed in there inline, that means they have enumerator, and all strings containing the same letters has the same enumerator

which is only logical, but some people don't know that

that's why it can be really efficient to use strings as dictionary keys

Icy Defiance

06:54

ooh the enumerator part is interesting. I knew they were objects, though. I've used things like "mfMF".contains(input) && input.Length == 1 in Java, when I was just hacking crap together for homework.

although I think it's .getLength()

something like that

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