@JoshPetrie and taking out JUST the linq stuff fixed all the issues?

cant fault linq to sql for that

the development team messed that one up not linq to sql

its a tool not a member of your team

@JoshPetrie but, then you still had a use for LINQ?

very few do

@JoshPetrie but, you just said you used linq from a different backend. am i not following correctly?

most just write extension method chains

extension methods are not linq @RhysW

but they use linq

@Wardy no im not talking about extension methds, im talking about linq

he's simply saying he wrote against a bunch of apis

@JoshPetrie so its only the syntax you dont like, not the linq itself?

rofl

right ok were on the same page then

so extension methods = good linq = bad ?

i thought you were completely against it in every way which is why i was disagreeing

even though extension methods build linq ?

weird

lol

well, now its quiet

quiet is good

that was the most peculiar conversation

i dont like quiet :/

@RhysW so... did you browse through my ECS? Do you still think it's understandable?

@Wardy im pretty sure 90% (mad eup statistic) of causes of arguments is people not understanding what the other person is saying xD

i had the strangest argument with a colleague the other day

we were both arguing that we should design the code in the same way

it took us an hour to realise that

@MrPlow i got caught up in a discussion, ill have a deeper look now :)

@JoshPetrie where?

oh... yeah... my naming is lousy

ok guys serious question here

@MrPlow i still find it understandable, more so now that those ones have full names

my world is so big i have to use doubles for the coords

but unity only accepts floats

so how do i translate

@Wardy slice it up and have them as different 'areas'?

my world is endless

i dont have "zones"

im trying to figure out if i can offset a camera coord with a given world coord

it can still be endless and be chunked

@JoshPetrie Oh.. I thought that system headers should go first. I see

yeh its still bsp managed

@JoshPetrie oh.. will do

still cant quite get under 20 on that game vaughn linked

@JoshPetrie though what should I use it for? I'm not passing around my custom objects, instead I'm using smart pointers which have their own move / copy stuff already implemented. The only thing I've created a rvalue move constructor / assignment operator for is the ComponentExtractor class since that ain't being passed as rvalue by default in VS2012 (no rvalue "3.0" implementation in VS2012)

or am I misunderstanding something

@RhysW the lowest I got was 23

@MrPlow i need sleep, but i also need to beat my personal best xD

hey-oh

@hasherr hey sharky :D

Just got back from the scoolz

ready to write all the codez

@hasherr woop, i have a question for you actually

I have to learn visual basic at school. Not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing.

Go on.

your game is about sharks and otters right? so whats with the whale 0.o

Sharks and seals, Rhys.

The whale is just a temporary sprite

I didn't want to make a very graphic seal.

@hasherr i was close :(

So I threw something together.

@JoshPetrie Okay.

ah ok, just curious is all :)

@hasherr just be glad youre at a school willing to accept programming should be taught

@JoshPetrie 1) "Well you have at least one operator=, so you should use it there." - By that you mean that I have at least one explicitly defined operator= overload or that I'm using more assignment operators for which I haven't made move / copy constructors / operator overloads?

Some of the guys wanted to name the whale, but I told them we shouldn't get too attached because he won't be here for very long.

@RhysW Yeah, I'm really really lucky that my school has 1 Algebra teacher who minored in CS in college.

Lulz

@hasherr Sebastian, i named him sebastian :D

NO.

WE'RE NOT NAMING HIM.

@hasherr you are, i got taught word for 7 years straight, thats it

@hasherr :O sebastian can hear you! youll hurt his feelings

@RhysW We have a class at school called 'Computer Apps.' They really need to renmae it to 'How to use Microsoft Office 101'

2) "Be careful; don't just throw everything into a smart pointer and assume that will handle all your lifetime issues for you. That's a trap." - If you're talking about my overuse of shared_ptr then I conceed. I'm thinking up a design which would cut down my shared_ptr dependency and allow me to use unique_ptrs

HE'S NOT REAL

@hasherr sebastian should atleast be a hidden easter egg an unlockable character!

school ? wtf

long time ago

@RhysW That's a very good idea.

But we aren't naming him.

Yet.

@Wardy shh wardy, you are showing your greys! :P

@hasherr so we arent naming sebastian?

@RhysW im not that old u cheeky git

His name isn't sebastian!

He doesn't have a name!

He's an IDEA! HE DOESN'T REALLY EXIST

@Wardy im just pulling your leg! but im being careful, i dont want to put you in a wheelchair

lol

@hasherr sebastian most definately has a name, its sebastian :P

How about this, Rhys.

If you make me a kick-ass whale sprite, I'll name him Sebastian.

@hasherr sold!

@JoshPetrie 1) I implemented my operator= overload and rvalue move constructor according to this. Or were you saying that I only made an rvalue assignment operator and move constructor and that I'm lacking the lvalue ones?

Dammit!

Evening Govna's

@JoshPetrie 2) True I've considered on using raw pointers to avoid possible overhead

@Dave just want to inform you that you called everyone here "Shits" or "Feces" (whichever you prefer) in Croatian :P

lol really ?

govna means feces?

Brb, food tiems

AHHHH flood it just broke my head

yeah... "govno" = "turd" , "govna" is plural of that

@MrPlow if you call some one a moron your calling them a Carrot in welsh :D

Also if you call some one a dude, your calling them a camel's penis head

language is fun

@Dave that's.... oddly specific

i know right! ?

but its true :P

oh great now i can get mocked by 2 versions of flood it

@Wardy i love flood it :)

flightradar24.com this is awesome

does anyone know how i might generate a single "blob" of land using noise?

@Wardy in flodd it? :P

no

in 3D

3D flood it, now that would be fun

ahhhh no go away

i wish the data was publicly available with api would llove to make a cool business game on airports with that @JoshPetrie

leave me alone

lol

lets not go on a tangent about terrorists...

And the room goes quiet

The beginning of a good political discussion...

so sebastian the whale, he can have a top hat and a monocle right?

@JoshPetrie i guess but as a plane fan i wish it was public from air traffic systems it fascinates me

As long as it's kick-ass, then whatever you want @RhysW

My mother is upset with me :(

@hasherr she found your 'tutorials' did she? :P

Lol, no.

That day shall never come.

she found your porn

my dad found some kinky stuff my ex bought me lol

Lol, no.

That day shall ALSO never come.

whats up then? :P

i think i know

she found out he don't like cabbage

:O

No, I was being all bitchy because they were messing with me about girls at school.

hehe that doesnt go away btw, my parents still do that now :P

ah mums always get giddy like that

i talk to a girl and my mum is like "she your girlfriend... what she like!"?

so old fashioned doesnt realise girls hang out with guys as friends these days

Something my parents have yet to undertstand.

i work in IT, i have the easy response of 'mum, its IT there are no girls'

i think its cos my mum didnt go to mixed school

and sadly, aparet from 3 im my office its true :/

Lol, in my coding class there are three girls. XD

heck the girls i used to hang out with were as bad as the guys we were like jackass teenagers doing stupid stunts etc the girls used to do them to lol

there was 2 in my computer class 5 years ago then one dropped out.

@Dave used to? we still do that crazy crap xD

the other might aswell have been a guy

@RhysW im old now :P

I hardly ever do stupid stunts.

my body is ruined from stunts i cant do anymore lol

worst being i jumped off roof broke both my legs

I've never even been to a party, so I can't speak like you can Dave.

@Dave ahaha, i never broke anything, though i almost got run down by a lorry

we were trying to make a parkour video

i got too ambitious :P

i didnt roll when i landed so yeh =/ ouch

ah, i fell through the roof of a cricket pavillion

@Dave That'll do it.

aha xD

now i know the pain of broken legs... i dont know why parkour runners do it

they are crazy

they know to roll :P

The crazies thing I did was sneak out with a bunch of my friends at like 2 in the AM at camp to go sing to the girl cabins.

We had to cross a forest.

one of the best thing i remember doing was hiding in a graveyard and scaring my friends when they came past on halloween xD

@Dave I used to do parkour. It leaves you more sore than anything.

all the lifty runny stuff is mostly easy, its the not clipping yourself on the edges of things and going flying thats hard xD

oh scrapped my knees alot i used pads in the end

ive broken concrete with my head before thanks to stupid stunts xD

I fell of a 3 foot wooden box onto concrete and hit my head.

That sucked.

i knocked myslf out whilst ice skating xD

i gave up doing odd things after i nearly lost an eye though

falling on ice hurts too

but you know when you have great friends when your really hurt but they are laughing and filming it :P

and then do it too and hurt themselves xD

you're

thinking they can do it better than you :P

dont start @hasherr :P

don't

Don't*

im kidding i just had to do it :P

/me slaps both of you

me slaps both of you

*

oh! have you ever nearly got run down by a tractor? :L

im in a city there are no tractors here

ahh, we were playing manhunt in a field

Dammit!

The whale refuses to move!

show the code

@RhysW How's that sprite coming along?

thought you had it working last night

Oh

Duuhh

I moved a lot of a code around.

So nevermind! :D

@hasherr slowly, i havent opened my image creator yet, its 00:15 and im about to go to sleep xD

I want the whale by 10.

PM

:P its a free image you dont get to lay down deadlines xD

I'LL DO WHAT i WANT

@RhysW yer an artist?

@MrPlow oh god no, but you dont learn without trying so :P

I need music.

im sure if i tried i could get something OK, i just never try past 1-2 minutes :L

First person to give me free music gets a special gift!

true, last nig.... morning (4 am) I've made myself a ship sprite

^That's my philosophy.

I'm quite happy with it

Anybody want to give me some good music?

You get a cookie!

though it is pillow shaded

the NSA keep stealing my cookies, no thanks

imgur.com/JLziywH

about 100GB there

take ur pic

Thank you, sir!

@Wardy are those music files legal?

um

As earned, here's your cookie!

maybe

WRONG LINK

thats my nas

that has pirated music in that link.

@Dave ew ew ew

its my entire lib

:)

Dammit!

collected over quite a while

yeh but your sharing illegal stuff ...

Here's your cookie!

only if you know its there

The BETTER cookie.

;)

@JoshPetrie can you delete the link please

@Wardy please follow the rules of the site... posting links to pirated material is bad idea.

fair enough

my bad

@hasherr or was it @RhysW if you need free legal music for your game: incompetech.com

@Wardy bad wardy, no! sprays with water

right im off to bed

to sulk

xD

night all

cya

@Dave it was hasherr but ill gladly use it too xD

What did I do?

I didn't know the music was gonna be ILLEGAL.

use this search engine to find specifically the music you want: incompetech.com/music/royalty-free

and use freesound.org for commercial free sound effects

@hasherr we didnt accuse you of posting illegal stuff :P

Found something better youtube.com/watch?v=klVcSmun_7k

@hasherr nono shh, he was asking who the legal link should be sent to :P

Also, I'm glad none of you noticed my first 'cookie'

@hasherr thats not legal to use either

@hasherr it was just a link to a tutorial

XD

it aint worth taking a legal risk when theres so much free music/sound out there

Lately I've just been looping this like crazy.

@hasherr oh GOD, check your links man!

I TOLD YOU NOT TO LOOK

you want this

badass music

@RhysW I've had that up in a seperate tab for 3 days now XD

I can't force myself to get rid of it.

Wooo

got access to VS2013 through dreamspark

"new" C++11 features

gimme gimme

right im off bye all

Later, hater.

cya sharky

so @hasherr did you get your fellow to move?

No, but I'm creating move acceleration right now.

@RhysW Sleep tight.

have you tested your constant speed movement first?

Yep.

This'll be finished soon, I'll have the code up by tonight.

Translation: 3 hours.

yeah.... I'm not sticking around that long

see ya

Bye.