OK, so I straight up loved this weeks episode of Agents of SHIELD. Ward got plenty of time to be the bad guy that we've really on seen hinted at so far this season, it tied together all the current plots in the season really well and ret-conned an important part of the MCU. I can't wait to see where they end up going with this.
Also, can we talk about "definitely not Magneto" who Bobbi and Hunter fought? Him with the guns and Bobbi with her Captain America inspired returning Batons was so, so badass.
Also, I really want Hunter's "Damn the Yanks" T-shirt.
@phantom42 I know him from Scott Pilgrim vs The World. He's the guy that knows everyone - "Hey do you recognise a girl with hair like this?" crude drawing of a head "Yes that's Ramona Flowers".
Later on you hear him say "But the first album was better than the first album", and then when time goes back "But the comic book was better than the film."
@MikeEdenfield I just don't see the need for Marvel Studios, the company behind Guardians of the Galaxy and Ant-Man, to tackle themes as deep, dark and potentially controversial (depending on how it is handled) as that. Say it turns out that in the Jessica Jones series, all Kilgrave made her do was kill someone that she loved - that's still enough to really mess you up.
@phantom42 Well she was developing it for ABC first, then moved over to Netflix when the rights of the show did. She did "create" the show, in that she probably decided what direction it would go in, which characters would be involved, the overall story, tone etc.
"Mary McNamara from the Los Angeles Times felt Jessica Jones "rewrote the definition of superhuman" and was "a marvel", lauding the series' "breathtaking" examination of recovery from a sexually, emotionally and physically abusive relationship."
Yeah, looks like they haven't toned it down then.
Although holy crap, the critical response to this show has been incredible.
@Himarm True, but it doesn't define the character.
@DrRDizzle you could make the exact same claim about the Marvel Comics company in 2000, why would the company that made Ant-Man and Fantastic Four need to tackle something as deep as sex and alcoholism and coercion and ultra-violence?
@MikeEdenfield Comics aren't as accessible as TV and film though. Say Jessica Jones appears in Avengers 5 or whatever, and becomes a little girls favourite superhero - and she sees that Jessica Jones has her own TV show on Netflix, and wants to watch it but can't. That's a shame.
@phantom42 You see my point though, right? I'm mean I'm still stupid excited for Jessica Jones, but I'm also aware that this may well put some people off the show.
my wife likes marvel but she didnt like daredavil because it was more graphic violence, everyone has their own preferences, marvel doesn't have to cater to everyone, especially in TV formats.
i think its interesting that we bitch about ethnicities and back stories being changed for "no good reason", but then demand backstories be changed to make things more marketable
@Himarm If you build up a brand that works because of the light-hearteded nature of your films, and you belong to Disney, you should maybe consider making sure that your content is suitable for all audiences though. I don't see anyone actually complaining that Iron Man wasn't dark enough, and that was hugely popular and suitable for all ages. Same with all other Marvel Studios films so far.
@phantom42 I've never complained about that actually, at least not in the way that I think you mean.
@phantom42 I know that. But it is part of that larger world, and I'd be mad as hell if, as a kid, I wasn't allowed to watch all of this world because someone made the decision to go gritty.
anyway Disney doesn't care about kids, unless they have a toy line. i dont think Jessica Jones is getting a toy line, unless they make an animated series with her in it.
and shes such a B list char i doubt well see her in a movie other then a cameo.
and she's a retired super hero. even years after her introduction, she's never put tights on again. she's not going to be some runaway new favorite character that kids are going to love even if she shows up in avengers 5. (unless they decide to completely alter everything)
she'd be the equivalent of the korean scientist in AoU. "oh, her? cool, i guess"
the whole point is that the movies deal with a global/intergalactic scale while netflix deals with the street level. daredevil is very rarely a major player outside of ny
if he shows up ever, it'll be a cameo or a namedrop
but he's not going to be hanging out in the avengers tower
@MikeEdenfield that's all i've ever seen her as as well. she was retconned as having been a member of the avengers in the past, but they literally forgot about her
> But the most damaging thing he does is psychologically violate Jones to the point where she can't tell the difference between what he made her do and what she willingly did. It isn't until Jones is beaten within an inch of her life by the Avengers — a team that didn't even notice she was missing and mistook her for an enemy — that Purple Man loses his control over her. However, even after he's finally out of her head, the psychological wounds she's left with are life-altering.
