Agents of Absence

phantom42

02:24

> In the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris, CBS says it will pull new episodes of “Supergirl” and “NCIS: Los Angeles” on Monday night. The network didn’t specify the reason, but the descriptions of both ring similar to the horrific killings in France that left 129 people dead.

washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/11/15/…

Dr R Dizzle

09:09

@phantom42 I hate it when networks do things like this, for a number of reasons - the main one being that if we start to alter our behavior after attacks like the one in Paris, then they win.

Mike Edenfield

13:06

I agree.

this episode was ok to air last week but not this week? did we not remember there were real terrorists in the world back then?

Ankit Sharma

13:23

Constantine petition attracting good support.

I hope it get green-light one day

Mike Edenfield

It'd be nice if CW picked it up so it could state in the Arrowverse, but I don't think they have room on their schedule

Ankit Sharma

Its better then Gotham and iZombie to me

phantom42

but gotham isnt on cw

is beauty and the beast gone now, or is it still running its last eps?

Ankit Sharma

On the side note is it only me who thinks Gotham seems confused in its ownself

@phantom42 just want to concentrate on DC rather the channel

Mike Edenfield

B&B is ending this season but it's not really a fall show anymore.

last season CW renewed all of their shows, and they picked up Legends

looks like they'll have a few opening up though. Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is definitely out and Reign isn't doing so hot. And their top two shows are DC properties.

Ankit Sharma

13:30

@MikeEdenfield They can adjust if they want, Constantine can work individually too.

Mike Edenfield

so it seems like picking up another DC property is a good fit; plus WB owns 1/2 of the CW

Ankit Sharma

I love hearing the possibilities

Mike Edenfield

but if they were hypothetically to pick up Constantine they'd have 5 DC properties and 4 others.

that's pretty one-sided.

may as well rename themselves the DC/WB network :)

Ankit Sharma

@MikeEdenfield i don't mind that either :D

CWB

#SaveConstantine

Dr R Dizzle

14:27

@AnkitSharma #ShaveConstantine

Ankit Sharma

15:01

Dr R Dizzle

@AnkitSharma I haven't clean shaved in well over a year at this point, probably even long

Ankit Sharma

I go for too option only clean shave or hobo look

Anyways my beard never grow much big

Dr R Dizzle

15:21

@AnkitSharma I've never gone full Dumbledore beard, but I've gone as far as "homeless for a few months" before.

Ankit Sharma

lol

I tried, i can make hair like a hobo but my beard is hopeless

phantom42

i was the only asian pirate on PotC with their real facial hair

on more than one occasion, the make up girls tried to rip it off at the end of the night

Ankit Sharma

15:44

@phantom42 sounds exciting

phantom42

thought you were replying to them ripping at my facial hair as exciting. was very "WTF, man?"

Ankit Sharma

I mean playing pirate

The later one seems to be good as audience :D

phantom42

17:14

tried to watch last weeks supergirl, but the audio was off by like a full second. have to acquire a new copy

apparently, it's available for streaming on amazon, but you cant buy a season pass.

Mike Edenfield

17:27

I'm a bit worried how easily CBS thinks they can just swap episodes out.

to mean that means "there is no internal consistency in our show so it doesn't matter what order we air them."

though I guess it's only off by a week.

phantom42

i think they care less about consistency than possibly offending/upsetting someone

other shows have done it before too, like buffy with earshot

Mike Edenfield

that's true.

I guess we'll have all the continuity questions to look forward to!

phantom42

granted, earshot wasnt a story arc episode. no clue about this supergirl ep, though

Mike Edenfield

wasn't last week the real start to the "aunt evil" story-arc?

if we jump forward in that story arc it might get confusing.

phantom42

ep 2 started with the aunt

still havent seen ep 3

Mike Edenfield

17:31

ah, right.

lemme remember what e3 was.

oh yeah. it was the I'm Not Superman episode

no mention of the aunt, TBH

phantom42

we watched kara do the "interview" with cat and basically throw a hissy

cuts back to the office and had to quit watching

Mike Edenfield

yeah, what was up with that?

phantom42

they were pretty soft questions too

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 I see we are watching at the same source.

@phantom42 Hannibal just never aired an episode at one point.

phantom42

@DrRDizzle i think it was eztv-lol

which is usually a good one

Dr R Dizzle

17:39

@phantom42 Maybe not then. I wonder why we'd both see the same audio issues?

Mike Edenfield

17:49

whoever ripped it and sent it to those sources just did a bad job

Mike Edenfield

19:04

SIGH

phantom42

yup

Himarm

lol

phantom42

is jessica premiering thursday night or on friday morning?

Himarm

are the uploading all the eps at once or do they roll it out weekly, i dont know how netflix works

phantom42

netflix does all at once

Himarm

19:06

if the first ep sucks, i wont finish theshow, since i hate that girl

phantom42

it may not be as amazing as daredevil, but i have no fear of it sucking.

Himarm

she grates on me, her face, her voice

ug

Mike Edenfield

its not going to suck.

phantom42

just cleared a ton of stars to try to prevent things being flagged quite so easily

Mike Edenfield

unless you're @DrRDizzle

wow it's like he's psychic

phantom42

19:16

did you guys seriously have to star like every message in that conversation?

Dr R Dizzle

@MikeEdenfield Just got back from tea lol

Mike Edenfield

@phantom42 can you get rid of my top one please?

Dr R Dizzle

@MikeEdenfield Wait, do you think I'm not hyped for Jessica Jones?

Mike Edenfield

@DrRDizzle oh wait. it's marvel.

@DrRDizzle is going to love it.

Dr R Dizzle

Just four days to go until #JessicaJones. I'm expecting this show to blow me away, I couldn't be more excited.

Tweeted by DanielRochelle on November 16, 2015 at 10:12 AM

Mike Edenfield

19:18

i have 3 things I'm supposed to be doing at work. How am I supposed to do that with all this SF&F bizness happening?

someone has to stop talking

Dr R Dizzle

@MikeEdenfield I didn't love Iron Man 2 or The Incredible Hulk or Thor: The Dark World or Thor

Himarm

i love thor because of natalie portman

mmm

Dr R Dizzle

@Himarm I really like some parts of Thor (it's my favourite of the ones I just listed), but overall I don't love it.

Mike Edenfield

I'm not sure I can respect the opinion of a person that uses the phrase "man bae".

Dr R Dizzle

@MikeEdenfield Because of course before now, you really respected my opinion.

Mike Edenfield

19:32

more than I do now.

Himarm

on a scale of 1-100 how many points would you say this latest thing dropped him?

Mike Edenfield

"man bae"? 450 at least.

Dr R Dizzle

@MikeEdenfield You've actually used it in more messages that I have at this stage.

phantom42

i know what "man" means. i unfortunately know what "bae" means. i have no idea what "man bae" means, and i'm not sure i want to.

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 Like bae, but a man

phantom42

19:38

can any of you get onto netflix?

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 nope

phantom42

k. thx

Mike Edenfield

@phantom42 here it is, used in a sentence:

in The Screening Room, 21 mins ago, by Dr R Dizzle

@steelerfan Chris Evans is my man bae

@DrRDizzle yes but when I type it I'm putting "air quotes" around it in my head.

Himarm

man bae?

or main bae

Dr R Dizzle

@Himarm man bae. Like bae, but male.

Himarm

19:42

you dont need to specify

you bastardized ibonix

get on my level

phantom42

is ibonix like apple's version of ebonics?

am i just old now?

Mike Edenfield

this conversation is hilarous and yet I feel like starring it will lead to trouble 3 days from now

phantom42

that would never happ... oh, bother.

Himarm

its the apple version

Dr R Dizzle

Agents of Nothing has been locked for 9 billion years

phantom42

19:45

Agents of Nothing has been locked until a good Fantastic Four movie is released

Himarm

Bæ/bae is a Danish word for poop. Also used by people on the internet who think it means baby, sweetie etc.

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 I was willing to wait the 9 billion years too, but that's just too much.

Himarm

Pronounced: "bæ"

The sound made by sheep.
Q: What does the sheep say?
A: Bae

Dr R Dizzle

@Himarm Google Translate disagrees.

phantom42

is that from urban dictionary?

Himarm

19:47

yes

bæ

Noun: bæ n (singular definite bæet, not used in plural form)

poop, faeces, crap (See Wikisaurus:feces)
bæ c (singular definite bæen, plural indefinite bæer)

Interjection: bæ

bye, goodbye
bæ
bæ

phantom42

i've never heard it pronounced like that

i've always heard it as "bay"

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 Yup

Himarm

sheep say both bah and bay

phantom42

himarm clearly knows sheep better than i do. not sure what that says about the situation.

Himarm

im from the street, and i no my sheep

Himarm

19:59

FFS guess im going to go sit in the corner

phantom42

> Ultron did make unauthorized monetary transfers to Ulysses Klaus' account which is an example of controlling the internet and it is quite different than only being able to access it.

TIL: being able to make an unauthorized money transfers means you control the internet

Mike Edenfield

@Himarm dude, you must realize by now that Mos Eisley is literally being babysat

normal internet rules no longer apply. super ultra best behavior only.

please.

Himarm

i didnt think thats what she said jokes were out of bounds

Mike Edenfield

left just go one week without any drama

Himarm

i actually thought she ment my picture

i would have said that line to literally anyone on the street. >.<

Mike Edenfield

20:06

they shouldn't be. they are. I don't think this should surprise anyone anymore. We only get to use that "i didn't think it was that bad" excuse so many times before we really should know better.

phantom42

@Himarm things i would say to literally anyone on the street would get me perma-banned from chat

also, things i would say to figuratively anyone on the street.

in case there was any confusion.

Himarm

it was so perfectly set up too

so 0 humor for the next few weeks

got it

Mike Edenfield

@Himarm don't get me wrong. I agree that things are way too restrictive in that room. But they have been that way for months. Anyone who hasn't figured that out and adapted their behavior to match, frankly, gets what they deserve.

phantom42

this room has mostly been a safe place. until today, as far as i'm aware.

Mike Edenfield

each chat room is its own community, we just hang out there.

phantom42

20:11

but our tendency to stay on topic helps

Himarm

i still dont understand how we differentiate between works like gothem, and stuff like james bond and MI its boggles my mind we have like double standards >.<

phantom42

honestly, we shouldnt. james bond and MI should be on topic

more so than gotham, actually.

Himarm

only the episode with the venom guy would have been on topic from what i watched of season 1

phantom42

gotham, i could actually get behind you on, since so far there's been very little as far as sf/f

where bond/MI are practically centered around future tech/sf

Himarm

the issue i have is alot of those meta posts are by people long gone

and those meta posts are held up like law

ryan

20:14

@phantom42 I don't watch MI but bond for the most part hasn't been that future-y

phantom42

not really. gilles old meta post actually said they should be on topic.

everyone just decided to reverse it recently

Himarm

richard comes to my mind as spearheading that reversal

phantom42

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A: Are works that aren't SF per se, but have occasional SFnal elements on-topic? (e.g. spy movies)

I suggest the following guidelines (improvements welcome): If it's marketed as SF, it's on-topic. If magic, futuristic science or technology, alternate history, or other sf-nal concept is an important part of the overall plot, it's on-topic. (Alice in Wonderland, Clockwork Orange, etc.) If the ...

Himarm

must corner richard and beat him with a stick

phantom42

gilles' original answer is very inclusive

Mike Edenfield

20:15

I'm on the Gilles' bandwagon lately, too.

Himarm

i guess number 4. "If it's set in an on-topic universe, it's on-topic." is what gets nolan and gothem in

Mike Edenfield

why not?

phantom42

and under those guidelines, gotham, bond, and MI should all be on topic

Mike Edenfield

the trick with Bond, MI, etc. is where do you draw the line in tech.

like, if they have a pen camera that's 50% smaller than we can actually make one, is that sci-fi ?

phantom42

and that's a fair discussion

Himarm

20:17

maybe that should be the a meta post

how much tech is needed to make it sci-fi

Mike Edenfield

is Person of Interest sci-fi because the computer in it is theoretically possible but we lack the computing power to implement it?

phantom42

i think himarm's question should be fleshed out into "does one piece of a franchise being on topic make the whole franchise on topic?" or something similar

it's something we've brought up in chat before, but has never been properly hashed out

the gotham vs batman is just an example of it

Himarm

if its something realistic, imo within 5 years, offtopic. but if its something that has pieces that are possible but some major underlying tech is currently not real, then ontopic

phantom42

but 5 years as of when?

Himarm

movies timeline

movies in world date

phantom42

20:20

huh?

Himarm

if the movie is made in the 70's or is set in the 70s and has tech that is maybe real now, but wasnt then

phantom42

but what if it takes place in the future?

or unspecified

or "today"?

Dr R Dizzle

Wrong room lol

Himarm

i think works intent is needed as well

ryan

@Himarm really I think that's the key, Bond isn't meant to be SciFi

So its generally off-topic

I'm totally fine with that ruling

Himarm

20:26

@ryan i think SOME are meant to be, some are like purposly trying to scare you with future tech

phantom42

yeah, there are a fair number where the villains plots center around future tech

or at least terrifying applications of tech

ryan

@Himarm Only one that's really over the top that way is the laser from space.

phantom42

plus, all of bonds gadgets

Himarm

if its a smash and grab of a crime organization off topic, if its a giant lazer satellite, or world wide computer observation, ontopic.

if anyone wants to write any of these up on meta, feel free to steal any ideas i may have contributed, im not very elegant with words. not a high level wordsmith.

ryan

@Himarm well obviously you need to level up then.

phantom42

20:32

that sounds like work

Himarm

20:53

@ryan i got through college having a team of proof readers bring my C level papers to A level papers

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