Agents of Absence

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Ankit Sharma

05:31

Like that wolverine individual film deleted scene then better don't show it.

Avenger film already shown that colours can work then why not x-men.

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phantom42

11:44

rumor: what kicks off civil war

tl;dr: cap & scarlet witch are chasing crossbones, who is wearing a suicide vest. scarlet witch levitates him on cap's orders in order to save civilians, but the explosion causes collateral damage.

generally makes sense. if true, this means that wanda now has TK powers.

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 I'd heard that the implication of Winter Soldier killing Howard Stark (made in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) would be what caused Steve and Tony to take up arms against each other.

phantom42

makes sense on a personal level, but not necessarily for drawing everyone in on it

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 That depends. The "Sokovia Accords" (a rumour about Civil War outlined in my answer here) would be enough for a general fracture to appear - the idea of the fate of The Winter Soldier hanging in the balance could be enough to further that divide.

Also, that would require Crossbones dying right near the start of the film - considering he kills Captain America after Civil War (in the comics) I can't see them wanting to waste him like that.

It also means that Cap himself is placed firmly at the centre of the conflict - part of why Civil War works so well is that Cap and Iron Man really have very little to do with the incident that kicks everything off, making it an ideological difference rather than a personal one.

It'll be interesting wither way.

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phantom42

12:41

@DrRDizzle yes, but this fits the supposed rumors (which i hadnt heard) that crossbones "isn't in it much". and crossbones doesn't actually kill him in the comics. he's a distraction.

actually, now i cant remember. crossbones may hit him, but it's sharon carter that actually kills him

Dr R Dizzle

12:55

@phantom42 I thought Crossbones sniped him when Steve is being let out of prison?

phantom42

@DrRDizzle yes, but sharon was the one that actually killed him. she had been brainwashed.

it was a big BS thing

The Death of Captain America

"The Death of Captain America" is an eighteen-issue Captain America story arc written by Ed Brubaker with art by Steve Epting and published by Marvel Comics. The arc first appears in Captain America (vol. 5) #25-#42. The first issue of the story arc, Captain America #25, was the highest selling comic for the month of its release. The story arc had wide-sweeping effects throughout the Marvel Universe and was accompanied by the miniseries Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America. == Plot summary == === The Death of the Dream === In the aftermath of Civil War, Captain America is taken into S.H.I.E...

> In the aftermath of Civil War, Captain America is taken into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody where he is assassinated per the order of the Red Skull. Crossbones snipes at him while Sharon Carter, who has been brainwashed by Doctor Faustus posing as a S.H.I.E.L.D. psychiatrist, delivers the killing blow.

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 I see. That would be an interesting twist, if at the end of Captain America: Civil War Sharon Carter turns around and blows his head off.

"Captain America: Reborn #1 (Aug. 2009) reveals that Rogers did not die, and that the gun Sharon Carter had been hypnotized to use had caused Rogers to phase in and out of space and time, appearing at events in his lifetime and fighting battles"

What

phantom42

yeaaaaaah.

because "comic books dead"

Dr R Dizzle

@phantom42 I can deal with comic book dead. But that explanation is mental

phantom42

FYI - Quicksilver wasn't raised by Magneto, he was raised in the scientific citadel of Wundagore in the Balkan Mountains of the tiny European nation of Transia. His mother Magda fled her husband, whom she knew as Erik, after a chilling display of his powers upon death of their daughter. She was then taken in by Bova, a humanoid cow evolved by the genetic engineer called the High Evolutionary. After Magda died the children were given to Django Maximoff, by the High Evolutionary, to raise as his own. Magneto didn't know about Pietro and Wanda for many-many years. — 22nd Century Fza Mar 26 '14 at 2:48

She was then taken in by Bova, a humanoid cow evolved by the genetic engineer called the High Evolutionary.

i'm convinced that every now and then, marvel's writing team just gets really really drunk in their planning meetings and then no one is willing to say, "uh, guys - this is a terrible idea."

Dr R Dizzle

13:09

Comics are weird.

phantom42

on the flip side, they're reviving "moon boy and devil dinosaur" into "moon girl and devil dinosaur". mrs.42 saw me reading the article and perked up.

the real question is whether Bova is a human evolved towards a cow or a cow evolved towards a human.

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Michael Edenfield

18:13

@phantom42 she had TK powers in Avengers, she TK'd some Ultron drones apart

phantom42

derp. she had tk in the original post-credit scene too.

making the blocks hover

Michael Edenfield

I want her to get real hex powers.

she apparently traded her hex powers for hadouken

Age Of Ultron - Scarlet Witch Hadouken

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you know what I could never figure out... how does "moving really fast" give Quicksilver the ability to punch a robot to death? Shouldn't it make his hand hurt more to punch solid metal at high speed?

phantom42

19:21

@MichaelEdenfield something about density, im sure.

maybe the quantum realm

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phantom42

22:40