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that was from netflix. no streaming, only dvd rental
dear lord Marvel... are you EVER going to learn?
@MichaelEdenfield nope
please note that the person riding the motorcycle that comes out of the quinjet suffers from a serious Black-Widow-deficiency
even WORSE:
Why in the name of Odin would Iron Man ride a motorcycle in his suit?
 
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03:25
@MichaelEdenfield He is using the Mark I chest piece?
 
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13:59
Just watched episode 4 or 5 of Arrow. So Deadshot is dead, just like that?
I like how all these iconic villians in Arrow and The Flash get like 5 minutes on the show and then are dead...
wait. of season 1?
@MichaelEdenfield Yes
well. then you will be pleasantly surprised
He shot him through the eye with an Arrow.
14:03
Unless this is a soap opera, he isn't coming back.
he would be the second person oliver shot through the eye with an arrow that didn't die.
though the first person doesn't show up until S2
deadshot finally died like, last month maybe?
i forget exactly when, but it was basically the same time they started promoting Will Smith's Deadshot from the movie.
i guess having two of them was too confusing
Also, Slade, or the person who dresses like Slade, has the most ridiculous looking mask.
That was episode 5.
this is true.
the dude torturing oliver?
that is apparently standard issue ASIS gear?
14:08
What kind of crappy doctor/patient confidentiality is going on that the lawyer's cop dad knew Oliver had scar tissue on 20% of his body.
true.
although it could just as easily be the doctor yelling "holy crap you have scar tissue on 20% of your body" loud enough for the whole office to hear?
I suppose.
Oliver's scars should get billed separately.
the best part is later on when Oliver and [spoiler] and [spoiler] have a scar-off
I'll assume that is the dead Sarah.
I mean, the first time dead, not the second time dead.
"this one is shrapnel from a grenade." "huh, no grenades.a few bullets." "me, I'm mostly swords and spears." "yeah, I got this one from a sword."
you mean the one who died but didn't but died again but somehow is still in a spin-off next year?
if you want to amuse yourself, pay close attention to all the flashback sara scenes in S1, then try to find all the places they messed up reshooting them for S2
14:14
Well, since I watch The Flash, I know the new Canary is the sister of the old Canary. And since I recognize new Canary as ex-lover Laurel, it doesn't take much to figure out old drown sister is probably only mostly dead.
And I hear things here, as well.
oh.
you watched S1 of Flash already? including the crossovers?
Yes, because I wasn't interested in watching Arrow.
But now I am, so I haven't seen any Arrow, but I know a lot future events, because of The Flash.
well then. yeah. the scar scene is oliver and sara and diggle. and felicity pipes in with her wisdom teeth scar.
it's oddly cute
I'm not sure why... Oliver's mom's husband guy ... asked a computer tech to figure out where the 2.6 million went.
she's the head of IT.
14:17
Is she also trained in forensic accounting?
no, but shes "IT".
Well, he calls her up and she says she doesn't deserve to be fired, and that she is better even than her "surpervisor" (she did air quotes).
which in comic speak stands for "magic"
yeah I know, I think they waver on that a bit, but I'm pretty sure she and/or someone else calls her head of IT at one point.
although I think her supervisor might be one of the many guys who dies later, maybe she gets a promotion
How is Oliver paying for the construction of that club? Does he have his own personal wealth separate from his family? I assume most of the family's personal wealth is their equity in Queen Consolidated. Which is why his mother had to use company funds (and not personal ones) to get the Queen's Gambit salvaged.
Or do they just allow Oliver to spend the company money however he likes?
that's actually a point of debate.. there's a question on the site about something closely related to that.
but basically, he does have his own money. he and tommy have rather large trust funds.
14:23
I suppose it is possible he has money from his Russian Mafia ties.
and he has connections in the financial world, via his parents.
since he's starting a business he might have been able to get loans.
it's kinda glossed over a lot. it becomes a much more glaring inconsistancy between S2 and S3.
To do that he would have had to create a business plan and 5 year profit / loss projections and the works.
a non-billionaire probably would.
:)
Maybe he just draws a huge salary from QC. Official title "Son of the dead founder"
I assume he also likely has stock holdings in the company; he doesn't actually go back to work there for a while.
14:25
I forget if QC is a multi-generational thing (like Wayne Industries) or if it was build up by Oliver's dad.
I'm not sure.
I know Merlyn Group was built from scratch by Malcom, cuz he started middle-class
however, it's strongly implied, mostly in S2, that Oliver is somehow making use of the company's assets for a lot of his stuff, like where he gets all his equipment.
kinda like Batman uses Wayne Tech for all his toys, QC's "applied sciences division" is apparently staffed by mad geniuses who don't ask questions.
Screw the middle classes! I will never accept them! My father's other family were middle class. And we were kept out of sight, hidden from view at his funeral. - Eva Peron.
"I need a green carbon fiber arrow with a tape recorder on one end. and a green face mask. and a collapsible compound bow that can fire arrows with grappling hooks attached. the vigilante? of course not, why do you ask?"
apparently Robert Queen did found QC himself.
they must have called him founder at some point in the show but there's no source on the wikia
he apparently started a shipping company in The Glades and built that up into QC
side note: The Arrow/Flash wikia editors appear to be wholly unfamiliar with the distinction between a comma and a period.
14:43
@JackBNimble Hahahaha, it's worse than a soap opera, it's comic books.
@JackBNimble In season 1, Oliver and his family are rich. The Queen's Gambit thing was I think to keep who did it hidden.
I do remember reading G.I. Joe, and at some point Storm Shadow is killed by Cobra for betraying them. But then later he apparently put himself into some kind of Ninja healing sleep, and he came back.
pretty much
Deadshot is going to get an emergency brain transplant into his previous unknown of twin brother's body in order to survive.
the word "dead" has lost all meaning when it comes to comic books
14:48
2 eps of Flash left this season. :(
Let's start a poll on how many more people will know the Flash's identity in those 2 epsiodes.
@phantom42 "Jean would be rolling over in her grave, it she would only stay there for 5 minutes."
She rolls over, and then gets up.
Great
now I'll never know why The Vision didn't show his butt in the Avengers: Age of Ultron
@LCIII Why do YOU think that is?
14:56
we're not smart enough to answer hard questions like that.
@JackBNimble Simple reasoning, actually:
You'll have to go ask the big guys. Yahoo! answers
Also, find out where Babby comes from.
3 more downvotes and I'll have the lowest rated question on scifi.SE
it's nice to be the best at something
Was that your goal?
14:59
is there a badge for that? not that you'll get it now.... no downvotes anymore.
@JackBNimble Not really
I don't know what my goal was. I wouldn't call it trolling, but maybe it was.
so naturally I consulted Stack Exchange
I got a good chuckle out of it
he was just trying to help people get reversal badges, but now no one can.
anyone really surprised that one user has three of the ten lowest rated questions?
i am not.
will i also not be surprised when I go look up who that user is?
not at all
i am, however, surprised that this is so lowly rated.
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Q: Did George Lucas create the yell that is used in every star wars movie and is generally in other movies

EmluIn every star wars movie, there is this distinct yell. It is generally used once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdbYsoEasio it sounds like this. Did George Lucas create the yell, or did someone else create it and use it before him.

not a great question, but not really deserving of that
huh. that's an odd one to be so low-rated... i know that effect has been used in movies for decades but I also never saw any of those movies before Star Wars
15:04
tied for lowest rated
AH.
I see why.
the link in the question is to a movie that's probably older than George Lucas
(a compilation of them)
ah, ok. then, yes. DV away.
@phantom42 To be fair, y'all don't have such an easy view of deleted low-voted questions. There's some real crap in them thar hills.
huh. '53? I would have pegged it older than that.
@Keen oh, i believe it.
15:06
@Keen call another election then and we can share the .... joy?
hah
huh. the lowest voted (non-deleted) answer is only at -15?
was -14 a few minutes ago
oh, wait. maybe something filtered for me.
well, there was. but not anything lower than -14
hm. weird. the wilhelm scream is now at -15, but doesnt show up on my questions list ordered by votes
15:36
Seriously? Why didn't the Vision show his butt?
that's just... I mean...
how?
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A: How are prisoners in the CW's The Flash fed?

KeenThey order takeout. How they get the food into the cells without letting the metahuman out isn't shown. A deleted scene was recently released: (spoilers for S1E21, Grodd Lives) ...

finally got an answer!
Was watching Gotham last night, and my daughter was expressing her joy that Fish Mooney is finally dead. I explained to her the principle of "see a body or it didn't happen". Falling over the edge into water almost never equals death.
@Omegacron That's the the start of it. There's twins, clones, and parallel universe doubles. So many ways to bring people back from real, actual death.
I doubt Gotham will go any of those routes. Maybe twins.
Now The Flash would definitely go those routes. All three.
speaking of which, sure wish they'd hurry up and give Firestorm a decent outfit on The Flash.
15:49
@Keen Those prisoners are going to get super fat.
@JackBNimble And that's another question.
Maybe bending the laws of physics really burns calories.
I would think Joe would have a big problem with the illegal prison at Star Labs.
And, wouldn't educating the public about these new meta humans be better than not?
@JackBNimble Yeah, Mr. "Let's tell everyone but Iris who the Flash is" totally would have ethical qualms.
lol
regarding Supergirl, I'm more interested in how they'll portray Cyborg Superman than I am the protagonist of the show.
somehow missed that ruth negga was cast for one of the leads in the preacher tv show. that'll cut down on her AoS time, if she still has any after this week.
15:54
Is Barry the only non-criminal meta human thus far?
I guess maybe Firestorm guy.
@phantom42 Maybe she'll die as she has lived, a traitor (meaning Raina)
He died doing what he loved, betraying his own people.
@JackBNimble plastique was arguably a non-criminal. she blew stuff up, but accidentally.
Actually, the ironic twist at the end of last week's AoS was that Raina - whom everyone believed to be a traitor - was telling the truth, whereas Jiaying - whom appeared to be the good guy - turned out to be a manipulative liar.
@Omegacron Still unclear what her motives are though.
Knowing what was coming, I felt sure that Gordon/Raina were conspiring to replace or mind-control Jiaying.
did anyone read flash season 0?
15:58
I think basically she just hates SHIELD and the idea of indexing. She probably sees them as an evil that must be eradicated no matter what it takes.
guess we'll find out tonight.
@phantom42 Nope, I'm mildly curious wtf it covers.
@Keen some wacky stuff, from what i'm seeing.
I think she has decided she can use her gift of the future to leverage her way into power and leadership
Is Olivia Munn any relation to Caroline Munro? They look like they could be mother & daughter. And as a bonus, both are known for fantasy/sci-fi roles.
16:00
> Though it was initially announced that the comics would take place between episodes 1 and 2, chapter 8 clearly shows the prison beneath S.T.A.R. Labs, established in episode 3, and the epilogue shows Barry fighting Captain Cold. As there are no substantial narrative gaps in the comics, the "Freak Show" section can be assumed to take place between the events of "Things You Can't Outrun" and "Going Rogue ".
> Given the dialog between Barry and Felicity in "Smoak Signals", it can be assumed the section takes place after "Going Rogue". Finally, given the dialogue between Barry, Felicity and Oliver in "Blood Loss," the "King Shark" section must take place after the "Flash vs. Arrow" crossover event.
@JackBNimble well that's the way it was pointing, but then it turned out that everything she was claiming - including against Jiaying - was true
@Omegacron I think she intentionally revealed the stuff about Jaiying in that way to make sure she went ahead with it.
Also, it isn't exactly clear if Raina's ability to see the future in any way affects what happens. It could be she is looking at a read only view of the future, and no matter how she tries to change it, it will always come true.
Right, but if she really thought she could change anything, she could have just told jiaying about the danger
e.g. "i see jiying talking to shield, and then shield attacks us. we should tell jiaying to be ready"
it's possible. but as an example, she told Gordon that if Jiaying met with SHIELD, there would be war. Neither she nor Gordon told Jiaying that (that we know of), yet it happened exactly that way. Had Raini met with Gonzalez, it would have happened differently
versus what she did - "we should have someone else talk to them, and don't tell jiaying about this."
16:05
I don't trust her.
oh, I don't either - don't get me wrong
Like how she told that parent she sees her kid getting chosen and receiving the gifts and its beautiful.
Classic, tell them what they want to hear so they'll love you kind of thing
for all we know, that might be true though.
were cal's vials full or empty when he got taken on the quinnjet?
They need someone with ESP to know when she is telling the truth or not.
16:06
i thought they had some liquid in them, but something i read said they were empty.
They were empy except for few drops
one had like 1/4 an ounce left? It was nearly empty, the other two were empty.
That suggested to me that Jaiying sent him to attack from the inside.
ok, maybe that's what i saw then
So he basically made a super soldier serum by himself.
Short term, though it may be.
He could sell it.
"Be something between Captain America and The Hulk for 1 hour! A super powered rage machine who doesn't ruin his suit!"
supposedly we're going to see him transform in the finale. at least partially - something involving CGI
@JackBNimble the gotcha with Jiaying vs. Raina is going to depend on what Jiaying's end-game is. Raina may turn out to be the lesser evil, or she may not. I'm rooting for Jiaying... cuz I think she's kinda hot.
wow - there's a picture of the Jiaying actress with blonde hair on her Wikipedia page. She looks a LOT like Skye in that one. Good casting, indeed.
16:25
I assume Skye, if anyone, will end up leading this batch of Inhumans.
I think it's a given this is a splinter group, and somewhere out there is the main line Inhumans that'll probably feature in the film.
16:38
I guess with the way Jiaying keeps her hair up all the time on-screen, I never really saw the resemblance. But it's there.
@Keen follow-up question: what exactly does Star Labs to do make enough money to run a secret prison where they feed the prisoners their choice of take-out food every night?
@JackBNimble that's his Hyde Formule (marvel.wikia.com/Hyde_Formula), I assume
in the comics he absolutely ruins his suits, btw.
Comics version of Hyde is essentially Hulk-Lite:
@Omegacron are you saying that all hot asian actresses look alike?
perhaps just all hot half-Asian actresses?
Jiaying is half Nepalese, half German. What a combination.
Dichen Lachman is from somewhere in East Asia but somewhere cool.
like tibet?
16:50
yep
oh. I thought she was just pure Tibetan
Nope, German dad. Skye is Chinese/Italian I think
oops - Skye is Chinese/American. sorry
Personally I think she should have kept her acting name as 汪可盈
still easier for me to remember how to spell that than "Dichen", for some reason I insist that her first name must have an 'a' in it.
Dicken Lacken.
@MichaelEdenfield Still, I think it would something viable that governments would want. Combat stem soldier formula , used on an as needed basis.
16:57
I do have to say... when you end Arrow on a cliffhanger where you locked your entire team in a cell and threw in a deadly poison, and you walk away while Felicity screams "we trusted you"...
showing the preview for next week with all of them alive five seconds later kinda ruins it
speaking of which.... is this the first time he's said "My name is Oliver Queen" outside of the opening monologue?
has this whole show just been a 3-year setup to him doing that? :)
Beats me - seems like it HAS been three years of unending identity crisis, so anything is possible. There's brooding... and then there's Ollie.
yeah.
Oliver Queen doesn't know who he is. And Barry Allen... everyone knows who he is.
17:17
... except Iris. Well, up to last week anyway.
@MichaelEdenfield I assume they expense it all to Wells.
Oh wait.
> Felicity: "Oliver's psycho ex-girlfriend who's hell bent on murdering her father."
> Sara: ex-girlfriend?
> Oliver: *that's* what you took from that sentence?
also... is it any wonder no one in Starling City ever learns their lesson?
Week 1: "Laurel, you have a drug problem, you can't be a DA anymore."
Week 2: "Laurel, you're being sanctioned by the bar for your drug problem, I can't hire you."
Week 3: "Laurel... yeah we're all good, wanna come be a DA again?"
@Keen I'm not entirely clear on wether Star Labs is even operating anymore...
they have 3 employees, they don't appear to be running any experiments.
yet the building is operational and they apparently make stuff.
Me Gusto:
Also, Chitauri soldiers for your Avengers figures to fight:
Man, I could lose hours on that site. The guy has a thousand reviews of collectibles, busts, & figures going back for 15 years.
17:51
hah!
> Felicity: It's getting really hard to keep track of who knows who's secret identity.
Move to Central City, it gets easier.
Pretty soon in Gotham, young Bruce will start telling every pretty woman "I'm going to be Batman, y'know."
do shows usually hit netflix over the summer before the next season starts?
I missed like 1/2 of Gotham and only 5 episodes are available on demand :(
not sure. I have Hulu Plus. $7 a month and I get episodes the day after they air.
Netflix still only has the first season of Agents of SHIELD. On the other hand, with Hulu you only have access to the last 7 or so episodes.
I really need to ditch cable, but I gotta find a cheap way to get hulu/netflix/amazon on my TV.
My kids watch Netflix & Hulu via the Playstation 3, if that helps. That's how we get it on the big TV in the living room. Myself, I just watch everything on my computer though.
18:05
i have one Xbox for the big tv in the living room.
i need something for the TV in my bedroom.
and the third TV on the porch which is analog-only :\
ahaha
@MichaelEdenfield simultaneously the good and bad thing about watching on hulu now.
I remember back in the VHS days, my aunt & uncle had cables throughout the wall and VCR/TV's hooked up in every room with a switchbox. You could be playing a movie on the VCR in one room, yet switch it on at any TV throughout the house.
I thought that was so cool
if my cable wasn't so ridiculously expensive as it is, I'd sign up for that whole-house DVR thing.
@MichaelEdenfield usually when the dvds come out - just a few weeks before the new season.
DVR in one room you can play from any other.
18:08
no biggie now, but back in the late 80s that was dine-no-mite
@phantom42 i just need time to catch up on Gotham before S2 starts.
I can binge watch at work, should be ok.
Gordon sees everything as right vs. wrong. Penguin betrays everyone. Bruce worries a lot. Fish keeps dying and then coming back. Riddler likes jokes. There - you're caught up.
oh, and Barbara's a crazy, violent, psycho dyke. That's new.
you missed selina
18:23
so, I've noticed a disturbing trend in Arrow this season, whereby Oliver and/or Sara are standing around with Laurel and/or Det. Lance, after taking down the bad guy. And you hear all the police sirens in the background. And they all just stare at each other for like 30 seconds before one of the non-vigilantes say "go" or "get out of here".
like.. were you waiting for permission?
you just committed like a half a dozen felonies and the cops (who care) are on the way.. GO HOME
19:03
mostly vague stuff, but not a bad quick read
19:18
Synopses of Agent Carter and Agents of SHIELD for next season. Includes a cast list for SHIELD.
> "Marvel's Agent Carter" returns for a second season of adventure and intrigue, starring Hayley Atwell in the titular role of the unstoppable secret agent for the SSR (Strategic Scientific Reserve). Dedicated to the fight against new atomic age threats in the wake of World War II, Peggy must now journey from New York City to Los Angeles for her most dangerous assignment yet.
> But even as she discovers new friends, a new home - and perhaps even a new love - she's about to find out that the bright lights of the post-war Hollywood mask a more sinister threat to everyone she is sworn to protect.
and
> "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." returns for a dynamic, action-packed third season, as Director Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) embarks on a deadly new secret mission to protect the world from new threats in the wake of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s wars with Hydra and a rogue faction of Inhumans.
hrm.
is the rogue faction of Inhumans "all of them"?
> "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." stars Clark Gregg as Director Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May, Brett Dalton as Grant Ward, Chloe Bennet as Agent Skye, Iain De Caestecker as Agent Leo Fitz, Elizabeth Henstridge as Agent Jemma Simmons, Nick Blood as Agent Lance Hunter and Adrianne Palicki as Agent Bobbi Morse.
I think Blood and Palicki aren't currently billed as stars (as of S2).
19:31
@MichaelEdenfield No, especially if this is based on the comics.
There's an Inhuman royal family that will presumably feature in the film.
But over the millenia, groups have left the mainline group of Inhumans to join humanity, or setup their own enclaves.
@Keen i meant all the ones we see on TV. as in, they are the rogue faction and the ones in the movie that will never appear on television are the normal ones?
@MichaelEdenfield Yes, but there are likely other splinter groups we haven't seen. The rogue faction we've seen this season is just one group of Inhumans. There are others out there, probably.
probably, but I wonder if they're going to be "The bad guys" on AoS for a while, then when the movie comes out, suddenly we start to see a bunch of good ones.
@MichaelEdenfield Maybe. I suspect they'll lift an idea from the comics soon, which will help set things up for Civil War.
20:03
huh. i never noticed the Starling City billboard on Arrow says "Starling City is a STAR City..."
20:37
huh. the guy playing the Queen's attorney on Arrow played Gordon Godfrey (one of Darkseid's disciples) in Smallville
I keep expecting him to turn super-villain
21:15
hrm.
the Queen family / Queen Consolidated financial situation just got murkier.
when Rochev took over QC she diluted the stocks and suddenly the queens were broke. except they somehow could "save" their assets by moving them around.
which makes no sense; QC is incorporated, any personal assets of the executives are off-limits to the company. if the Queen house and money was held in private trusts it should be safe, and if it was all invested in QC stock then moving it around wouldn't do anything.
I'm particularly unclear why they appear to be about to lose their house?
I'm starting to think that the DC universe has a completely different and unexplained set of financial rules that just happen to use the same terms as ours.
it's a science-and-finance fiction story

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