@Behaviour Apologies again for those comments I made -- you're absolutely right, I was just surprised at how some people downvote @JyrkiLahtonen and @PedroTamaroff.
@Shog9 One of the issues discussed during this election (homework dumps in particular) could be alleviated by the SE quality project. Unfortunately we've no idea on whether the changes to SO homepage will have any trickle-down effects here. Any hints?
My gut feeling is that most of this won't be useful on sites getting less than 40-90 questions per day. But after that, stuff like automated quality scores based on analysis of the existing content start to have some real value. Once we're in the hundreds to thousands, manual Triage can support that.
@MJD Some sites get hundreds of questions per day. Stack Overflow gets thousands. At these scales, it becomes increasingly difficult for a community to keep track of what's being asked - dealing with the amount of noise starts to cut into time that a lot of folks would prefer to be spending on answering.
So we're looking at a few different options for making it easier to quickly sift through it.
Right now, Math's getting somewhere between 600-700 questions per day. That's an order of magnitude less than Stack Overflow (and then some) but still a lot. If your interests are niche, you kinda have to wall yourself off from most of that.
There's only one spot I'm not sure of my vote for and only a few people jockeying for it. I guess my philosophy on these answers is that I'll only read those.
Current results: Daniel Fischer : 440 // Jyrki Lahtonen : 327 // Pedro Tamaroff : 271 // Jack D'Aurizio : 170 // Ilmari Karonen : 165 // Thomas : 165 // Arkamis : 135 // Shaun : 34 // Sanath : -7 // Anastasiya-Romanova 秀 : -9 // end of top 10 // Ahaan S. Rungta : -12 // dustin : -20 // the rest are way out of it
Since I criticized Ahaan a while ago, let me say I still prefer him over Anastasiya-Romanova... revising my vote.
@MikeMiller I think the questionnaire is mostly meant to inform the final stage of election. Though it might help in borderline primary cases.
> I should admit that I have a specific personal interest in getting access to the moderator tools on Stack Exchange: I'm the maintainer and primary developer of SOUP
@GeorgeWhite I've been trying to contact you regarding this appointment. Please contact me at the email address in my profile. Thanks. — Robert Cartaino ♦Dec 5 at 17:53
@AlexanderGruber That still sounds more appetising than a Bud Light.
@MikeMiller I certainly don't think that the top-3-by-rep are unqualified, and they each seem to have a good head on their shoulders. That's part of the reason why @AlexanderGruber and I haven't mysteriously suspended any of them in the last few days.
(The other reason being we'd be de-modded pretty quickly, I think.)
Daniel Fischer 516, Jyrki Lahtonen 392, Pedro Tamaroff 321, Jack D'Aurizio 212, Ilmari Karonen 200, Thomas 195, Arkamis 167, Shaun 51, Sanath 2, Ahaan S. Rungta 1.
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@ArthurFischer Not very weird, considering that 4 were elected, and you were not far behind #4. Last year's primary result: Alex Becker 295, Alexander Gruber 250, Michael Greinecker 207, Julian Kuelshammer 203, Arthur Fischer 185, Dominic Michaelis 88.... those in italic were elected.
@ArthurFischer [Off topic] The comments to the last math.SE blog post appear to be spam. (I wrote in the blog chatroom, but wasn't sure it would get any attention. I couldn't ping any moderators there.)
11 positively scored candidates now: Daniel Fischer 655, Jyrki Lahtonen 493, Pedro Tamaroff 391, Jack D'Aurizio 267, Thomas 249, Ilmari Karonen 248, Arkamis 204, Shaun 81, Anastasiya-Romanova 秀 12, Ahaan S. Rungta 11, Sanath 7.
Tip: if you have time to read just one of candidate's responses, read Ilmari Karonen's (saying this even though I'm unlikely to vote for him). It is refreshing to read a thoughtful post by someone who's not among the same 10 people who were arguing over the same things for the last couple of years.
He's a model "citizen of the SE world". Along with Tim Stone and Shadow Wizard, he'd be one of my top choices for a moderator of Meta.SE, if there were a moderator election there. (Maybe there will be, who knows.)
@Behaviour Thanks, I appreciate the compliment. (Not sure it's really proper for me to star that myself, but hell... all's fair in love and website politics, or however that goes. ;)
@PedroTamaroff I decided to refrain from commenting in that thread, sorry. I post enough on Meta as is. (Formally: 263 answers, second to Willie Wong's 365. Putting the various accounts together: way over 500.)
@Behaviour Agreed. IMO, it's also a problem that's only partially solvable at the community level; it would really help if the software could be tweaked more to guide new users towards the right path.
(And yes, SO has the exact same problem too.)
One concrete problem is that, at the moment, the search box actually kind of sucks for finding dupes.
The "possibly related questions" list that pops up when you start typing a question is much better, but it only shows up when you've already decided that "OK, I'm gonna ask a question myself."
@IlmariKaronen I think the search box is okay; the search button sucks. So after typing there I hit the bookmarklet which searches the site with Google using the content of the box. Why does not SE have this option built-in? :/
Maybe add it to SOUP? :) (I know it's not for new features)
If I ever get around to implementing optional toggleable fixes for SOUP, that might well go in.
But yeah, I do try to keep any new features in SOUP to things that I'm pretty sure 99.99% of the user base wants, or at least won't be bothered by. Replacing the SE search with Google might not quite make that threshold.
That said, SOUP does have some completely new interface features. Here's one I really should advertise more:
I'd very much like to see this done, at least for questions with suggested duplicates.
Why do I want this? Well, the notice placed on questions closed as duplicates looks like this:
This question already has an answer here:
Link to duplicate question n+1 answers
The way I see it, if t...
> I like the fact that the primary vote is public. It means I don't have to read the statements of candidates who are already out of it, and they don't have to waste time writing them, either.
I starred @Behaviour's remark since I agree that this post is the best (was the best at the time he wrote it, I did not see the latest ones).
But yours is good too.
I read it with interest. Especially the start about difficult users.
It's true that some people are really good at making provocative remarks that stay below the radar when one is not careful, and that this is a moderation issue.
I'd very much like to see this done, at least for questions with suggested duplicates.
Why do I want this? Well, the notice placed on questions closed as duplicates looks like this:
This question already has an answer here:
Link to duplicate question n+1 answers
The way I see it, if t...
Mathematics 2014 Moderator Election
Mathematics 2014 Moderator Election