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in Math Workshops, 1 hour ago, by Martin Sleziak
I merely suggested that if you really want actually people to do something here (and you are not, in fact, just trolling) then you should explain more details than just to say it's going to be a workshop.
in Math Workshops, 1 hour ago, by MathematicsAminPhysics
@MartinSleziak You are not the first one accusing me of being troll. (Do you know what the meaning of "to troll" is? According to Google, "troll" means "make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them".) I only wanted to create a room the people who are interested to do math by discussing with each other.
in Math Workshops, 45 mins ago, by Martin Sleziak
@MathematicsAminPhysics I did not accuse you of being a troll. I just said that if this room is a genuine attempt and you really want to do something here, you should at least explain what you actually want to do here.
in Math Workshops, 43 mins ago, by MathematicsAminPhysics
@MartinSleziak Please excuse me for my misunderstanding. I think I should first try to open my closed post.
in Math Workshops, 43 mins ago, by Martin Sleziak
Re: I only wanted to create a room the people who are interested to do math by discussing with each other. This description fits the main Mathematics chat room quite well.
It was already said to you by others that it is difficult to tell whether your behavior is genuine or whether it is trolling. Here is one example from another user:
in Mathematics, 2 hours ago, by Daminark
Trying to push it too hard in the wrong setting is a very bad idea, because they'll start to take it as trolling or crankhood.
@MathematicsAminPhysics If you want to remove "troll-related" messages from your room, feel free to move them to trash - after all, tehy are also copied here.
user84215
@MartinSleziak I will not do that because then I will be accused of being tyrant.
ok
After all, the messages are related to the room, so it's fine by me if they stay. I just wanted to mention the possibility. (And also I wanted to provide a different place to continue "troll-related" discussion, although I don't thing there really is more to be said.)
 
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user84215
08:48
Like your friends, you think I am a crank troll that only needs attention?
I am not sure who are people you are calling my friends - maybe you mean people you linked to in your profile.
@MathematicsAminPhysics Probably if you don't want people to think that you're a troll, you should not behave like one. I hope you can see that many of things you're doing in chat and on the site can be interpreted as trolling. (I am not in a position to judge whether or not that is your intention.)
 
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11:41
in Math Workshops, 1 min ago, by MathematicsAminPhysics
For example, suppose that some people want to work on exploring the structure of a group of a finite order. They may discuss some general subjects about it like determination of its subgroups, normal subgroups, ... , then suggest some problems about the topic to each other to work on them, and then some new ideas may come from those discussions and activities and be starting points for some common projects related to that topic.
It is only marginally related to the above, but perhaps it is worth mentioning that there used to be Finite Group Theory chat room. And for the first few months it also had some activity.
@MathematicsAminPhysics Let me just say that I consider it very good that you are now at least trying to explain what that room is intend for.
Since you clearly said that you prefer that I (or anybody with some criticism) do not post in that room, I'm mentioning this here instead.
in Math Workshops, 2 mins ago, by MathematicsAminPhysics
Please note that the above example is only a bare idea, and the possible structures for workshops are not limited to this special example..
@MathematicsAminPhysics Yes. I know that it was just an example. Still it seemed worth mentioning that such room existed in the past - if you are interested in this specific topic you could see from the transcript of that room which other users are interested in the same topic, how much interest the room generated, what they actually discussed about, etc.
11:56
in Math Workshops, 8 hours ago, by MathematicsAminPhysics
@MartinSleziak I think a workshop is different from a discussion. isn't it?
user84215
You think I behave like a troll in the chat rooms and site?
@MathematicsAminPhysics You don't think that? Do you really find it hard to believe that people who see your behavior could think that it's just trolling rather than genuine questions?
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For example, posting basically the same thing over and over to various places, asking things you have already asked several times before and repeating claims which you have been told you to be untrue or completely irrelevant could lead quite naturally to suspicion of trolling.
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I am more inclined to believe that you mean well, but I am by no means surprised that many people might view your actions differently.

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