So should I lower the mana limit?

WHO IS STARRING THESE THINGS

@doppelgreener @AlexandreVaillancourt could you look into this the next time it happens? This starring.

I can't see who stars things, but I can remove them

I don't know

@FreezePhoenix sure, looking into it now.

hahah that was me

the last one

I mean tyyppi's

not the previous stuff

that wasn't me

@Tyyppi_77 Yes.

They can also see who flags what in chat.

Mods are OP.

@nwp Not as much as a CM

@FreezePhoenix flags are not stars though

so which do you mean

@Almo They can see both.

@Almo both

ok just wondering

since I didn't get elected >:(

;)

There's lots of stuff we can see and lots of stuff we can't see or can only see under certain constraints. CMs on the other hand are approximately omniscient.

Not to mention the stuff they can do.

@FreezePhoenix Most games you're working alongside don't have a concept of a mana limit, so that's something interesting and different you can play around with. You can have cards that not only generate mana, but increase your mana limit.

@doppelgreener those already exist

Ya need more Mana. Can always use more mana

The cards that increase your mana limit also generate mana.

Ok... crippler class written

@FreezePhoenix What does it do

in the game

@doppelgreener You fired a warning shot!

whistles

@TheMaskedRebel Nothing yet. Just a card with 0 attack

I need to branch it off into seperate classes for the Angels and Demons

@FreezePhoenix Add a card that causes mana burn :P

@FreezePhoenix Ok. Well, as another exercise, consider: mana in competing games exists so that I can't cast "Deal 50 damage to the opponent" on turn 1, and instead have to settle for "Deal 3 damage" for 1 mana on turn 1. Similarly do you want a game where someone can summon their best thing on turn 1? That would be undesirable because games would get decided by luck of the draw. So you'll have an interaction between power and mana costs, and thus a mana cost to work up to for powerful cards.

@doppelgreener well... there is summon sickness

Likewise we get pressured as players to put cheaper but less powerful cards in your decks and not fill them with all the most powerful expensive cards specifically because we need to work our way up there.

ahh...

Well, once I add some of these classes, the chances of the more powerfull cards goes down.

I need help I have a webpage how can I get all the images on the webpage. There are like 300+ images pkmn.net/… webpage

@PintOfMilk use image elements?

make your own little JS snippet that iterates over them

can you just copy all of the html code

@PintOfMilk You click "Save As"->"Complete website" or something and the browser will do everything for you.

A) How is this relevant to game making B) Have you tried anything yet?

Woops silly me that is related to games

Okay, that leaves point B for you to think about

@TheMaskedRebel Have you considered showing a minimal example of a failing test case instead of posting the same code over and over hoping someone sees something?

OK, there are 536 elements on that page

yeah

:45114483 if you want to check if two spheres collide, check if the vector c1 - c2 (where c1 and c2 are the center of each sphere) has a magnitude less than either sphere's radius.

but I only want the pokémon

:45114561 bad idea for 300+ imges

where do you paste that?

@PintOfMilk Oh.

I think you just copy all of the images into a word document

@PintOfMilk just save the webpage like @nwp is suggesting, if you're trying to save all the image files

so I might be able to copy them to a file

@doppelgreener Either radius or the sum of both radius

@TheMaskedRebel oops, yes. less than the sum of both radii.

this counts edges exactly touching as being a collision, e.g. if one sphere is 2 units radius and another is 3 units radius, 5 units distance between the centers will be a collision. if you don't want to count that, and want actual overlap, use diff.magnitude < collisionDistance instead.

@TheMaskedRebel ok...

if you're writing physics collision resolution the < method is probably preferable, if you want to know if things are merely in contact then <= is appropriate (such as, if they're metal balls and the sides are in contact, your game can conclude they'll conduct electricity between each other)

Dark Agents

Decrease enemy attack by 3, decrease health temporalily by 2 10, and increase enemy manacost by 3

managed to do it by coping all of the files into a docx ->zip and then copying the media file which has all of the 400 images

that sounds like a bad way to have done it

worked so all 400 images in a nice little zip file

but if you've got your image files and you're happy, good

Vector3f relativeDifference = Vector3f.sub(getCenter(), s.getCenter(), null);
		if(relativeDistance.length() <= radius + s.getRadius()) return true;
		return false;

yeah

Like that? @doppelgreener

no, nothing like that

diff (or offset) is the vector from one center to another, which is done with subtraction. distance is the addition of both radiuses (not centers).

oh, wait, you got the both radiuses bit. good.

@TheMaskedRebel that revised version looks like it might be correct.

(i don't know what vector3f.sub needs exactly, but i'll assume that's correct syntax to subtract one vector from another)

you may want to make things easier on yourself:

Vector3f relativeDifference = Vector3f.sub(getCenter(), s.getCenter(), null);
int maxDistance = radius + s.getRadius();
if(relativeDistance.length() <= maxDistance) return true;
return false;

(maxDistance extracted as a named variable so you know what it's describing and why you're comparing against that sum when you revisit this code in several weeks' time)

@Tyyppi_77 good call

Vector3f relativeDifference = Vector3f.sub(getCenter(), s.getCenter(), null);
int maxDistance = radius + s.getRadius();
return relativeDistance.length() <= maxDistance;

@Tyyppi_77 Cool, thanks

Right now I am thinking that I'm not calculating my sphere extents properly

Ok... now that I have DarkAgent defined, we have to make the decks process effects when the turn is ended

@doppelgreener how do I delete a post

@TheMaskedRebel an answer? question? chat message?

@TheMaskedRebel delete link

@doppelgreener After a period of time the delete link disappears.

Ok people...

Decks are SEALED

@TheMaskedRebel ... on what though? you didn't answer my question, so i can't answer yours yet.

That means you can't add cards from the console.

@doppelgreener a chat message.

@TheMaskedRebel you can only delete chat messages within 2 minutes of having posted them.

@TheMaskedRebel You ask a very freindly mod and hope they don't ask questions.

within 2 minutes, you can hit the dropdown on the left side to get to the delete link.

@FreezePhoenix also this, yes. raising a custom moderator flag is reasonable for deleting sensitive messages, but there had better be a good reason.

No... just ping the mod.

Or just live with the consequences of your actions

If it's your chat message, just ask a nice and friendly mod

@Jimmy Or that.

@FreezePhoenix I had to do that one but I thought that it was only for bad messages

because i posted a virus ridden link and I needed to delete it

wow someone somewhere just flagged a moderator explaining why he trashed a message

@Almo Who XD

whoever it is they're overreacting

seems fairly obvious who the flagger is imho

what's the issue with our starboard?

I clean 'em when I see 'em

@Tyyppi_77 yes, action was taken.

@Tyyppi_77 from the diamond POV -- we won't have a fast turnaround on that, and can't discuss much about specifics, but consequences in this scenario will be inevitable rather than swift.

^

^ That too

But I recognized some things happening for a few minutes there, and we should just let it go until.

@doppelgreener So if the person keeps going on, he will be suspended

@TheMaskedRebel You better not have my FKEY

@TheMaskedRebel "and can't discuss much about specifics"

@TheMaskedRebel suspension is within the range of options.

@AlexandreVaillancourt but this yes

we don't make promises about moderation action, nor do we make threats

@TheMaskedRebel just let me tell you one thing: Trust me on this. Personal experience, you don't want to do this.

Yeah, we can't say they will be, but as you say, they could be.

but whoever's doing it is probably aware it's causing trouble, and it's within a moderator's mandate to ensure there are proportionate consequences for causing trouble.

@JoshPetrie Hi

@FreezePhoenix I don't want to do what

s/starring/doing/

@Tyyppi_77 Is there a guideline for staring

@TheMaskedRebel common sense

Stars are used to mark things that are interesting to revisit in the transcript. They are like landmarks for future visitors who visit the chat again after a day or two, to help them catch up on significant events or useful things to know. They are not a "like" button or an upvote.

@Tyyppi_77 Thanks for that, I updated the pinned message.

Yeah. Importantly chat stars are not for you, they are for others.

@TheMaskedRebel I appreciate the flattery, but you still did you use stars correctly.

I star messages not because it helps me find them but to help draw others' attention to them.

Admittedly now that I think about it, that's completely opposite to stars on main site.

one of these days maybe we'll be able to downvote stars

@Jimmy NEGA★STAR

@TheMaskedRebel if you want a cardname to be pinned, post a link to the name in here .

@Jimmy I want to downvote your star voting.

@Tyyppi_77 I never said I stared everything

Solely for the purpose of pinning cardnames

@doppelgreener @JoshPetrie am I following the rules by redirecting him to a place I don't mind (Or want) cardnames to be pinned?

@FreezePhoenix that's fine

lets not publically flog people for past transgressions - the mods have already promised consequences

@JoshPetrie see above...

right above here

yes, I'm just saying, if whoever is doing something people don't like stops doing it, then there's no more point in waving the issue around

@TheMaskedRebel you're not helping your case by arguing. You have been offered a means of usage, while benifiting others.

@Jimmy We could have a mod move these messages.

@JoshPetrie good Idea

I didn't follow what was the big Ubi announcement btw

which one was I supposed to be excited for

I enjoyed writing about that vector stuff earlier. 🤓

@Jimmy Too bad @DMGregory is not here to tell us. The poor guy is on the show floor showing off his game :P

I like that E3's organisers put Star Citizen on during the Crytek time slot, but am disappointed it was not so that their lawyers could have a righteous fight to the death to settle the lawsuit between them.

Just setting up here, since we're a few hours behind on the west coast. :?

@AlexandreVaillancourt He is here

:P

I need to go and code

@TheMaskedRebel Then do so.

Hello!

@DMGregory hello

That's the one. ;) www.starlinkgame.com

Hello. Just setting up at E3 so I won't be able to chat too much just now.

@DMGregory Cool game

@DMGregory Break a leg!

Last thing regarding the starring issues: if the above conversation cleared things up & there was just misunderstandings about how stars should be used, and we stop having problems with stars, then that's the situation resolved, no further action necessary. (Tools like suspensions are more or less a last resort used when a party doesn't wish to modify their behaviour, so if we don't have to use them, great.)

It's good we finally reached this point though of talking about it and clarifying things though

(hopefully)

@doppelgreener If i star something an it seems annoying to someone than I'll quickly unstar it :)

@TheMaskedRebel That's not exactly how it works. Users can't know who starred what, how can they tell you to cancel the star?

@AlexandreVaillancourt If someone doesn't like the star then Ill unstar it. Nothing to do with me

If you think you don't know how to use a tool, either read the manual or ask for help, we'll be glad to show you the ropes.

@AlexandreVaillancourt They'll complain. Simple.

Can you unstar a message you've stared a while ago? (I don't know if it's possible, I don't remember from before I was a mod about this.)

No, you can't. 2 minutes.

WTF

Ah...

Thats not only SO...

@FreezePhoenix So if user A stars a couple of message when there is no one here, then the user B shows up, sees the star board and is like WTH, and asks to have those removed, it appears to be too late...

They're back

@FreezePhoenix STACK OVERFLOW IS BACK. NEVER HAVE I FELT SUCH ELATION. YIPPIE. :)

OK this is kinda funny

twitter.com/MAMaddin/status/1006578603478437894

WUT

I had it pulled up.

SO deleted it.

@FreezePhoenix WHY :(

Well, it said:

@TheMaskedRebel Why the caps?

> SO off = Humanity's progress stopped.

@AlexandreVaillancourt IM ON CAPS LOCK

@TheMaskedRebel Please stop it.

@FreezePhoenix hahahahah

gotta go

well that was interesting

it took him 9 minutes to get the network back up and running

Are those purple parts supposed to be purple

Ah.

LOL

did you ever consider using imgui

oh :P

I thought imgui generated the draw calls for you

ah

a reverse openGL

\o/ cripplers work

I made an Effect class just for it

@Tyyppi_77 leave them... they look cool

ok

@Tyyppi_77 I hate float inaccuracy

woa SO interface just changed

oh it's for adding Teams to the front page

You thought they broke it for nothing?

I didn't think they broke it, so I can't answer that question

@Almo Oh good god they did change it

what is this UI

blog.codinghorror.com/has-joel-spolsky-jumped-the-shark

IDK

SO must have changed a large portion of their stuff

@cubesnyc hi

Gosh darn I messed up

My game lets cards have negative attack

Oops

negative armor in heroes of the storm leads to damage amplification. maybe negative attack is somehow useful?

I punch you with such immense weakness that your body regenerates!

:D

that would be a cool effect, I wonder if something already exists in MtG

"target creature heals its target by its attack instead of dealing damage. Target creature must attack during its owners attack phase unless there are no legal targets"

Which raises the question if you can attack your own creatures or yourself.

hi freeze

my game is turn based for the most part with some actions that players can take at any time

the way i am thnking of implementing this is to just have an event based architecture where any player command triggers some kind of function

but i thought maybe it would be better to refactor it using a game loop

does anyone have any advice?

adhoc event callbacks get spaghettish pretty quickly

because it's hard to enforce that certain action sequences need to be resolved atomically

but you can tame it by just having the events enqueue an action and your sequential game loop works off the action queue

so thats totally normal for a turn based game?

my turn-based stuff tends to just have some kind of explicit state machine structure

so like a player action/command does something that switches state?

yes

@doppelgreener Did that already this year. Only just recovered enough to stand at the booth all day. Not keen on repeating the experience.... ;)

@DMGregory oh dear... i'm glad you're recovering well then :P

Hello

o/

How are thing here?

Hello?

quietish! we did a lot of talking about freezephoenix's card game thing earlier

also the site was broken for a bit

Oh. That explains the deadness.

I am backing up my RPGs files to an USB. I just finished what I call Alpha 0.4. It includes Orcs, usable items, buying and selling, and an improved main menu and world map.

@TheMattbat999 Why not use cloud storage?

@AlexandreVaillancourt 1. Not sure how to set one up and 2. Towards the end of the internet data cycle, so trying to upload 20 somethings gigs of memory ain't a good idea

@TheMattbat999 Ah, you have lots of assets?

With Unity?

@AlexandreVaillancourt yeah, a good bit of models and textures (though strangely alot is actually like terrain and compiler stuff)

At least I think so. Over half of the space is composed of a ton of bin files.

@TheMattbat999 I don't know how Unity handles things, but generally, you don't upload binary stuff that can be "recomposed": you don't commit binary files produced when compiling your project.

@AlexandreVaillancourt idk, I just noticed that while waiting for the transfer to complete. I literally just dragged and dropped the project folder into the USB folder

Yeah, it is bin files. There is 36mb of them, and it is almost done!

Oh well I was completely wrong. It is only 766mb. My bad :P

I'm sure the internet knows what files should be uploaded to cloud storage (a private git repository such as bitbucket, for instance), and which ones can be left on your PC...

(That is, if you want to go that way).

Ok.

@AlexandreVaillancourt yep. don't check in compiled output 8)