what I've been finding with [M] is that even ppl who don't like strategy games think it's cool

but ppl who do like strategy games become addicted.

@DukeZhou could you please help me o recall the name of that pretty old strategy, where you have to develop yourself, explore the world and destroy other settlements? It is called something like Rival. It was popular on Nokia hone 240*320 screens

Sounds very familiar, but nothing is leaping to mind

reminds me of some very good Apple ][ games

when we only had 64k to work with ;)

oh! while looking for the game the name of which I forgot I found this very cool old strategy. I liked it : spaces.ru/files/view/…

I like RTS, but find the interface always suboptimal for humans

I like to take time building my bases and strategically expanding, but that's not really possible in PvP

gotta play RTSs quick and dirty, which pains my aesthetic sensibilities

Much more of a 4x guy, but AIs always suck, and the games are way to long for reasonable PvP

Part of the [M] project was to address the subpar AI in modern strategy games

@DukeZhou it seems I can not find the game

no worries

@DukeZhou I am pretty tired and going to sleep. good night once more

[M] beta will be out soon and I hope I can get you on the Beta

pst me dukezhou@mclassgames.com if interested

sleep well!

@DukeZhou siliconbeat.com/2017/06/22/… sound cool

@DukeZhou ok

@StephaneHockenhull re: NES classic mini is $600 -- it actually heartens me that people place such a value on old equipment and games

it's a demonstration of how much people care about what we do!

Well, it's the nostalgia that they are paying for

You can always just get your Xbox controller, plug it into a PC with a 24" widescreen Full HD and run an emulator

But they like to get the feeling of holding an original controller and playing in it in a small TV

I got 3 original NES and 1 Famicom for that :P

@StephaneHockenhull never the same on an emulator

all that content was written in assembly, specifically for the hardware, and I think there's an intangible kind of magic in that

The real magic was that the games were so wonderfuly done, yet it didn't cost million dollars to get a "realistic" feeling into it

The games were just games, not a graphics race

the hardware and display defined the scope of the games, which is not an insignificant thing

it's similar to the way recording artists tweaked their delivery to suit the recording technology of a given period

Even on PSX there were still 2D games

Of course everybody wants to makes out most of it

But the old games were a lot funnier because it worried about more the gameplay rather than "hm, people need to appreciate that realistic grass, and being able to see your legs in a First Person camera"

@DH. processor speed is a crutch

I could spend like hours creating a list of unique games that came many years ago that is pretty rare to find a close experience nowadays

Well, I'm glad I don't have to do any more assembly.

Thank God we still have indies for that purpose

at least not most of the time

@StephaneHockenhull haha. on my project, it's paining me that we have to write the kernel in C

I programmed Assembly once

In university

so wildly inefficient based on how compact the game actually is

but I hear you overall

high-level languages have been a great boon

(but imo they also tend to facilitate inefficient code)

Those old time designers, they had to be efficient

The stuff I'm dealing with is game trees for an increasingly intractable set of problems, so I'm worried about every operation, and also heat. trying to avoid multiplication/division wherever possible, and I'm even thinking I should avoid simple real numbers (.5, 1.5) by doubling the values (1,3) and only dividing for humans via the GUI

We have to run on individual smartphones with no assumption of connectivity

and the math is so simple, i'm leaning toward bitwise approach when we rewrite the kernel

@StephaneHockenhull that is super useful!

trying to avoid floats entirely

what I really want to do is build a data structure for the game board, a simple 3^2(3^2) grid initially (classic Sudoku config) where the coordinates are the memory addresses, and the addresses hold a simple set of integers or their inverses.

none of my values are over 8 bits

and the only division operation is z/2

so that is good to know

W00t! Fireworks!

Feux de Laronde?

@StephaneHockenhull PS- you're a badss. *Respekt!

Nope, fête nationale! St-Jean-Baptiste/Québec day!

oh right

I can watch our town's from the window of our living room :P

I wonder if they'd get mad on Computer Science if I asked a question about the exploding cellphones from the recent Silicon Valley season finale...

@StephaneHockenhull Not here though, I saw one yesterday for $200, which is still higher than I'd pay for it, but a lot better

Also, my cousins had a NES and they used to play games with me on it

I only found out a month ago, that one of those games xame out at the end of the NES era and is really rare costing around $300

amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01IFJEWTM/…

There are very few people on Saturday and Sunday... :(

Is there anyone?

I'm here now

See:

I cut this image with photoshop and I obtained a png image. Then I cut this image again because there was too much png background as you can see. But when I import the image in my project, the background is excluded, right?

@Bálint I mean: does Android Studio consider part of the image the empty background too?

@Curio It'll stay the same

It won't cut the edges out

Nor does the windows image viewer, but because it's transparent, the backdrop shows through

So it considers only the image

what is the name for the program at the beginning of this video? youtube.com/watch?v=Mgyqhc-C4fs

paint tool sai

ah

The first?

does somebody tried out free version of Spriter? I mean Spriter Beta

what is better free version of Spriter or DragonBones?

@Curio thanks for the attention.

I never try these ones

However, do you mean the program which we can see only at the first second?

@Curio I do not get your question. What second are you talking about?

0:00 of the video

@Curio you helped out. it was actually the program you named : painttool-sai.en.softonic.com/post-download?sl=1

Fine then

@ShaunWild Curio curio = new Curio(); curio.setBlind(false);

Is there a libGDX person?

D:

we need a libTyppiGdx

If you want to read: gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/142965/…

Because it's easier

Not also all the views?

I think that all views support nine-patching

Why not?

but then a sprite can do that

because sprites are really images

A sprite can't be used to represent a nine-patch, only a Drawable can.

So neither image-buttons

In LibGdx you create a Texture containing your nine-patch and then you create a NinePatch from this texture and then you create a NinePatchDrawable from this NinePatch.

An image-button can be used to represent a nine-patch since an image button uses a drawable

aaah

The constructor is new ImageButton(drawable).

But I always use assets folder

for image buttons too

Use assets folder? What do you mean?

There 2 folders for the images: assets for libGDX and drawable for android

Drawable does not use a separate folder. A drawable is just something that can draw itself. It has nothing to do with the folders.

A drawable uses a Texture just like Sprite or Image or ImageButton etc.

I mean: I use "myimage.png" to upload an image and not R.drawable.myimage

Yes, you can use that for a Drawable as well.

I use them for textures, so I should can use ninepatch

because it's always a drawable, as you said