Game Development

12:42 AM

hmmmm

wow....

nvm

I figured out another, simpler way to do it

I have a widget tree, and I can just inherit the number from the parent to the child

instead of having everything push and pull the cookie amount

brb, bathroom break

back

haven't been progemming lately

why not?

such fun!

much time commitment!

Idk I havent had anything to write

work on something with me?

idk what, but still

sounds fun

12:54 AM

Me and daniel are going to maybe write an app this summer

In what programming language? Java?

I wrote mine in Python and Kv language (as you probably figured out)

We are going to use C#

cool

using Unity, or from scratch?

using Xamarin

cool

12:56 AM

and maybe Monogame or something

@hasherr tried Xamarin, I think

this is what it looks like, atm

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like this:

that is from the actual game I have open in the background

and now it looks like this (this is the layout it will be in the final form)

nice!!

that is the layout

yeah, the image is nice (it is the original game)

1:17 AM

are you going to put it on the marke

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eventually

if Ortiel lets me

(he is the one who made the original game, if you didn't know)

ahhhhh

omg I found another awesome oneman dev game

ltheory.com

@Pip I don't like Xamarin.

lol

1:28 AM

►

it's very shiny too! :D oh man.

300 bucks for a single license is absurd.

I was literally offended.

xamarin... 300 bucks

for what?

300 dollars for a single feature: Unlimited app storage

I could make the same app in probably less lines of code with Java for free with unlimited app storage.

Xamarin is 300 bucks?

1:31 AM

Yeah, for an Indie licesnse

You have to pay $300 so that you can write code for a mobile platform which you could normally write for free.

Nevermind about that then

Ridiculous

Pretty dumb.

Maybe we will just write Necro this summer

Were you planning on using Xamarin?

yeah to make an iOS app with C#

1:34 AM

Yeah. Sorry for shattering your dreams :(

On the + side, now you get to use Obj-C! :)

Nah, it's okay better now than later, It was more of an idea

wait a sec

you can use Python

How

Kivy can be compiled to iOS

and Android

does it have all the features

1:35 AM

@ChristianCareaga Or Java.

the same code can be used on all three major desktop platforms, Android, and iOS

and it's free

Or C++. I think.

@hasherr I don't know either! haha

the entire thing is free, all donation funded @ChristianCareaga

Interesting

1:35 AM

@ChristianCareaga lol

@Pip Is that what you're doing these days?

yep

making Android Apps with it

I'm making Android games with Java.

no iOS because you need a 100 dollar per year developer license

good for you @hasherr

@Pip Also a Mac to do it

Yeah me and dan were gonna split the 100$

1:36 AM

yeah

yeah there is no windows Ios emulator or whatever

@hasherr just to compile it

Thanks, bud. Going to deploy my first game this week hopefully

and I would borrow a friends, or use one of my uncle's

@hasherr nice!

I already deployed a pong thing with a friend

If not next week. I have to wait for the stupid government to send me my debit card D:<

1:37 AM

:(

@hasherr your little ghost game?

10-14 business days

is it done

Ya, Chris.

Done, not polished

I'll work on that this week

working on Cookie Clicker and an Aquarium thing, in Python, for Android, right now

1:39 AM

You guys are actually doing stuff haha I feel lazy lol

lol

I'm not coding right now. Working on research paper.

goodnight, guys

night! :D

I will be back in about 10 hours or so, for about an hour

then school :/

1:43 AM

I will wait for you!

anyhow, goodnight!

I WILL, I WILL! MISS U ;_;

Oh yeah you are on the otherside of the US haha night

Pip goes to bed so early.

It's not even 9 yet.

its 9:50 where he lives

1:48 AM

Nope, 8:50

oh yeah its 3 hours

from west to the east coast

He goes to bed early

He normally goes to bed even earlier

Like ~8

4:35 AM

hi

4:57 AM

Hello

hey

It's a rather quite evening, the typical rude and crude gang seem to be occupied in the real world!

hahaha

I got to go

bye

I think I've had my fair share of scaleform. It seems the industry is very much on the scaleform bandwagon, or the custom solution. I think it would be interesting to see other big user interface solutions

Ah, alrighty then. Have a good evening.

what ?

what are you talking about ?

5:04 AM

Scaleform is a middleware UI solution that is quite popular, and a royal pain in the butt.

It is without a doubt the most popular commercial product, with the biggest alternative being custom in house development

I think the industry needs some new players in the UI market

I see

In my opinon, developpers should make their own UI adapted to their games, there shouldn't have a standard UI for games, It would be boring

Well scaleform isn't a standard look, it's a toolset that allows for the UI to be authored largely using Adobe Flash. Scaleform then acts as a rendering and functional middle man to the rest of the systems

I see

It reduces the need for engineers to be directly involved in getting UI content into the game

Which is fantastic

a developper like me would use is own solution to avoid un-used ressource like Scaleform can does

5:10 AM

Unfortunately, it also comes with a rather substantial performance overhead, and plenty of other shenanigans

Many companies do roll their own solutions. It is quite the time consuming process to develop entirely new systems though, and the amount of time and money spent doing that is often not ideal.

Therefore middleware solutions are often preferred

it's ok when you need to get things dones quickly, but it's not ok when you need to get things done correctly !

Professional middleware solutions have entire teams dedicated to developing and maintaining them. I would have more confidence in that, than I would a short term in house solution.

time is money, but sometimes more times can bring more money. Do you know what I'm saying ?

That is a possible situation yes

The fact is that in those solution you don't really know their sources. You have to trust them like a blind guy, if a problem occur you will feel how hard it is ! But with house solution you know the shit you write ! :)

I got to go bye

5:24 AM

Oh man. I love the accessibility of Infinity Wars as a TCG

There just isn't a good TCG community where I live

MTG online is alright but its dated =/

Hmm, well thats unfortunate

I'm not a big trading card fan these days. We play Dominion at work a good bit, but thats not a trading game

I live in rural Wisconsin. It's expected unfortunately :(

I own Dominion hoping my wife was going to enjoy it but sadly its not the game for her

I grew up in Iowa, and we had a good community for magic the gathering. That was over 10 years ago though

Duel of Champions is a good online trading card game

and its freemium

I thought about that one a bit

Not playing it myself, since Infinity Wars is also freemium and the first one I settled upon and like a lot, I can say the consensus of what I read is Infinity Wars > Other online TCG offerings

Comparing it to Hearthstone is a bit of an apples vs oranges situation but IW is definitely more my style

I still have yet to try hearthstone

5:30 AM

It was fun for a little while

I just find myself not wanting to sit at a computer much when I get home.

I'm a fan of being able to vary up strategy and kind of come up with my own fun twist on things and Hearthstone definitely lacks the variety / depth that would appeal to that

Spend 10 hours a day on one

5:48 AM

It's more of a separation of work vs play than time spent on vs off the computer

Though obviously its not the case for everyone

9:41 AM

Morning

Leggy7

hi

ning! :D

video-game-helps-you-overcome-fears-master-heartbeat-kickstarte

game provides more "scary" feedback if you get scared, with help of bio feedback device. This game helps you to overcome fear.

That could be good for my PTSD.

Intriguing.

@Blue In real life, if this dev were a therapist, she will put you in a room that will shrink itself.

and the gameplay experience is supposed to be something like that, I suppose.

I hate insects. If I were in a confined space with insects, I will freak out. Then if someone pours even more insects, I will start to scream.

"Stop! Please! I will do anything you ask, Please. Stop"

"No. You must overcome the fear of insects. I shall purge you of the fear with... more fear"

"Ahhhh!!! NNnnnnnnnnnnnnnno"

Well there's a real therapy that is 80% successful called flood therapy.

I'm actually doing that today funnily enough.

It makes you relive your trauma by describing it to yourself in the present tense.

9:56 AM

oh my... ok, alright. And 80% successful ratio. That's counterintutive but I guess pulling it out is better than burying it deep

You then have to listen to yourself describing the trauma to get used to the idea that it is a memory, not a present happening act.

80% is an incredibly high success ratio.

I guess then reinforcing(attempting to indirectly experience it) fear factor in game to overcome fear can actually work. Now it's really interesting.

Yup.

Same principle, different application

Watch Markiplier's play through, it shows how effective responsive escalation can be.