Game Development - 2013-06-04 (page 1 of 2)

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12:15 AM

Zynga should drop itself.

12:40 AM

I wasn't able to swim in San Andreas at all (I'd float back to the surface all the time)

I fixed it by enabling the frame limiter

I haven't got the slightest idea WHY this fixed it

and what kind of hacks the game has in it

I can't even see a link

unless all swimming movement is somehow frame based

and a faster framerate messes things up

oh well

this made me remember GTA is and always was a console game

and the PC versions are and always were ports

funny, with the huge success it had on PC I forgot about this side of the series

user4704

12:58 AM

@Noctrine Yeah :(

ToddersLegrande

2:42 AM

I did it! I beat Smithy! (Mario RPG)

3:12 AM

@AlexM. I thought you were swimming for real and the next message got me wondering for a while...

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5:17 AM

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8:00 AM

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I am using Box2dweb for my box2d ball game. I am unable to reset the game. The world is destroyed completed after the ball is thrown once. could any one figure me out where i went wrong? var b2Vec2 = Box2D.Common.Math.b2Vec2; var b2BodyDef = Box2D.Dynamics.b2BodyDef; var ballbody = Box2D.Dynamic...

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11:09 AM

rawr

mornin'

11:26 AM

@JoshPetrie to check if my ideas about program design was acceptable, I've had a long talk with mark after that.

11:49 AM

whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/05/…

3D Printed Bionic Ear That Can Hear Far Beyond The Range of Normal Human Capability

12:15 PM

That site has a lot of worryingly BS stories listed on it, like the man in China who lived over 200 years in the 1600s.

Rong rife he did read.

That was an awful and stereotypical sentence and I regret non of it.

regardless, i'm not waiting. I'm cutting my ears off now.

@Almo go to the source then sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130501193208.htm

I'm not saying it's a bad story. I'm saying that site looks dodgy.

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12:27 PM

hahha

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where the hell did that come from

damn that's ugly

hahah

I think it is shenmue 2

Made me think of this guy:

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well it would be NICE if his image hadn't been found.

that's just sooooo ugly

12:32 PM

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Bizarre...

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Take two

Ugly game chars roundup

that hong kong one is the worst by far though. and space ghost isn't a game char. :)

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12:52 PM

bad question

won't ask

ToddersLegrande

1:25 PM

Ugly game chars? My avatar! And that's the prettied up 3D version someone made

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A slice of terrain from a noise gen I am testing

180000 tiles

ToddersLegrande

Interesting

I thought so too

looks cool dude

yeah I am going to be replacing my standard perlin noise gen with this

1:30 PM

Hey guys.

It's time to save the world.

ToddersLegrande

So is this a side view of the terrain and the noise below is like mineral veins or something ala minecraft? The top just looks suspiciously like a mountain top :P

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Pick which weapon you take with you to save the world, and tell us why.

Yeah, it is a side view -- the blue sections are actually caves

@Jon that actually looks like something out of one of my nightmares the further you go down.

ToddersLegrande

Ooooo ok

1:32 PM

:D

ToddersLegrande

@Shiester time for our daily trolling again?

@ToddersLegrande broke a record the other day. ~200 replies.

I would take the grammar sword to fix the text errors. :)

@Almo well excuse me for not being able to speak english as a native language.

note the smiley at the end. It could have looked like this:

I would take the grammar sword to fix the text errors >:(

1:35 PM

hahaha

ToddersLegrande

I tend to go with the :P smiley. It tends to get the "I'm teasing" message across

and a lot of the errors are ones native speakers make all the time, so it's not necessarily because you're not a native speaker. :)

ok got my carousel scrolling

ToddersLegrande

Do we all use the letter J in place of the letter I ? :P

to add: stop at the end, snap to the card nearest the middle

oh man

ToddersLegrande

1:36 PM

That might be the font... but it sure is obnoxious

asked for higher res graphics

got back two .ai files

.ai is pretty high res!

ToddersLegrande

Winning

as high as you want, really

ai is pretty I need Illustrator for it

1:37 PM

that's the bummer part :)

1) I don't have an illustrator license

2) I can't possibly download anything larger than 21 MB atm

3) WHAT

hey alex

adobe.com/downloads/cs2_downloads

2) I can't possibly download anything larger than 21 MB atm

mite b old but dont complain

FUQ

welp best delete some stuff then

uhh, okay

I'll find some solution somehow

nah, I'm still on 10KB/s

I think I'll get my traffic reset today or tomorrow

1:41 PM

why is your internet so slow?

because it's not fast

well step it up. get you some new interwebs.

ToddersLegrande

Need to get out of Romania

no need to get out of Romania

average Romanian internet is faster than average US internet

I'm just stuck with a crappy $5/mo 3G modem

Alex, AI can also be opened with InkScape.

1:43 PM

That sucks man. No public libraries around that you can use a hardline in?

at home I'd be downloading that Illustrator with at least 4MB/s

@Shiester not sure it's worth carrying the laptop just for this, not unless I try everything else

@psycketom I'll give it a try

well I guess it could be worse

they could have placed some random graphics in a pptx or docx

at least now I'll be able to resize things myself

howdy

hey sg

poppy is tough to play in aram

and her recommended items include 6 health pots. ;)

yeah, lol

I know a couple of guys who can pull her off, but only when the rest of her team has ranged carries.

and they don't suck.

Ah the old - 6 health pots that you can't take because its a max of 5 - fiasco.

1:57 PM

:D

yeah... that "and they don't suck" part is important

Then again, I've fed Poppy before.... T~T

:D

2:20 PM

<3 Brand. That shit in aram is awesome.

Burn all the things

hahah

I like getting Ziggs, Ashe and Kog

Kog is great.

blargh bleah blargh

ToddersLegrande

Anyone here do any recording from their PC or VOIP for that matter? I get a lot of fan noise with my current set up and I was thinking maybe a new mic might be in order but I've heard a lot of good mics just pick up that much more background noise!

Get a crappy mic then ;)

ToddersLegrande

2:37 PM

Just spoke to the wife who went to school for recording for a little while and said that if you play with the settings enough and buy the right mic you can reduce the noise a lot. She says you'll still get a little noise but you can actually tell what it is versus just being fuzzy background noise

So I guess I'm buying a new mic and trying to quiet my PC

Inkscape worked

@psycketom thanks a lot :D

ToddersLegrande

I need to identify which fan(s) are making the racket

CPU fan!!!

It's that massive heat sink I bought

(The fan on it)

You're welcome, Alex.

I like Trist or Cho in ARAM.

Also, Nunu is OP in ARAM as well.

Heal all the allies!

Cho, yeah. the spike pound is awesome.

they are planning map-specific character changes. they had hoped to balance everything across the board, but have failed.

you know it's a massive playbalance problem if those guys have failed.

ToddersLegrande

3:03 PM

Well my CPU was at 34C with the fan running at 100%. Turning it down and we'll see how high it gets

man I'm having chains and combos of bad days

hope it'll end soon

@ToddersLegrande my CPU usually runs in much higher temperature

maybe 50-60

ToddersLegrande

With the fan at about 40% (versus 100%) its now sitting at about 39C

It went up to about 42C while I was playing with the settings and it has come back down now

@Gajoo how's it going with the proxy?

3:23 PM

@ShotgunNinja Heal all the allies with Nunu?..

@Blue shit wait, confused.

Also, bouncing some webservers for work, and this pops into my head:

@ShotgunNinja Not seen that... it looks... tasty purple...

It's an awesome music video.

Studio Killers do full-CG animations for all of their music.

It's time consuming, but the final product is amazing.

do you think that it makes sense for content pipeline to have more inputs and more outputs, or should it be always 1 input => importer => processor => writer => 1 output

ToddersLegrande

3:40 PM

@Kikaimaru I might be misinterpreting the question but in my head more outputs can result in smaller updates if your game is large and you want some sort of patching.... but on the flip side less outputs can potentially be easier to maintain / validate / etc.

No clue if that's what you were getting at though

3:54 PM

i want to import .obj model to my custom format, so i write objimporter, that will go through ModelProcessor (that will do my game specific stuff, like optimize model) then it will go to ModelWriter that will create my .model file (that can be then loaded by game

but i also have a heightmap and alphamap for it (telling me what texture will be where) and i need to import both of them to my MapProcessor

and modelprocessor can output model and material in different files

and you should change your avatar back, this is confusing

I like todder's avatar

but its different, thats not how world should work

imagine how it would've been if you'd get an avatar at birth

and you'd be forced to live your life with it

if you change it, you die

ToddersLegrande

I swear I keep smelling something burning but the air smells fresher when I leave my room... my PC doesn't have any bad smells coming from it and its actually blowing really cold air....

It's like burning plastic

4:24 PM

god damnit

whatever idea I have, they're fine with it

I can do whatever I think is right

so why is this so painful to work on

ToddersLegrande

Because you don't like your ideas? :P

I'm trying to figure out a way to determine what tiles are the "surface" tiles

of this infinite noise generator, and I can't think of a clever way to do it.

@ToddersLegrande :)) that might be true to some extent

I think it's also this whole pong thing that's going on: new idea, ask, apply, repeat;

4:42 PM

@Jon Start from the sky, move down until you hit something. First thing you hit is the surface.

I do like my ideas regarding the layout and graphics

it's prettier this way

user4704

@Byte56 troll troll troll

@JoshPetrie Troll, troll, troll, it's how I roll, roll, roll

user4704

heh

I mean what else is there to do on the site right?

4:48 PM

pick up hot chicks

Hadn't thought of that one.

rookie mistake

okay, so my issue, is that I don't want just the surface tiles.. I want the contour of the surface

(ie, overhangs need to be identified as well)

user4704

Define what you mean by "contour" here?

user4704

Ah.

So, flood fill the sky.

user4704

4:49 PM

Yup.

Per chunk.

hmm...

flood fill would work

Since infinite flood fill takes too long.

but not entire sky.

This should work.

Yeah, if you can find the maximum height first, you can limit it.

4:50 PM

I do not know how to determine what chunk is surface chunk yet.

The top one :p

it varies greatly hehe

Like I said, start at the very top and move down until you hit something

I think I'm going to need to set a range

this is the thing... if some higher chunks are not yet loaded

It would be best to find a surface tile with the "fall" method, then just walk connected surface tiles

4:52 PM

Then the topmost chunk might not be identified yet.

So, it goes infinite up too?

yeah

infinite in all directions.

So this isn't something like the surface of a planet...

but the noise starts at a specific height

and ranges

the start height varies significantly across chunks

So, the surface is discontinuous across chunks?

4:54 PM

no

So, explain it like I'm not understanding.

hold on

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ToddersLegrande

So there were some wires resting on my heatsink... didn't really smell but moving them seems to have freshened up the air here. Fire averted.

chunks are currently divided into 8x8 sections and loaded individually

Oh, those are tiny chunks.

4:57 PM

Yeah, i was playing with the chunksizes

It was originally at 64x64 but was producing lag

You have something that inserts a character?

a character?

Rather, do you know where the surface is at any point?

oh, yeah I am drawing the tile bytecodes on top

no. I am trying to determine the surface in the best way possible :/

@AlexM. didn't even write a single line

right now there are way too many other things in my mind.

5:00 PM

There must be some height you can choose where you know there won't be land.

Yeah, this is what I am going to do... set a range of heights to calc for surface

Once you have one tile that's surface you can just check the surrounding tiles. Any tile that's also touching air, is a surface tile. (assuming you don't have caves...)

I do have caves, but they only start after 500 or so tiles below the surface

so that works out

Heh, how do you know what's 500 tiles below the surface if you don't know where the surface is? Or is that the plan for once you figure it out?

This is the test fractal I was using: i.stack.imgur.com/Ez3Mw.png

I am using

So basically, I know there is a huge chunk of tiles at the topmost portion of the world

Awesome, I got it working with your suggetsions

5:06 PM

Great.

I expect a free copy of completed game.

So, this particular fractal takes a rather long time to generate... At the moment, I am currently generating 8x8 chunks in a separate thread.

No perceivable lag on this crappy PC... If i raise the chunk size to 16x16 there is slight lag.

Hmmm, I would profile that.

Yeah, I am going to have to do that

My early tests seem to indicate that fetching the value for a tile took half the time it takes to create and populate my tile object.

It's a neat looking test fractal.

Yeah, thanks.

It uses Accidental Noise

5:08 PM

Oops.

:P

It's the only accidental noise I know.

C++ noise lib: accidentalnoise.sourceforge.net/minecraftworlds.html

Pretty snazzy.

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I agree, I remember looking at it when I was working on world generation.

5:11 PM

Creating a world based on noise seems to be a rite of passage for game devs.

Everyone ends up making one at some point.

I haven't :)

^ Not a game dev.

But I tend not to make games that require substantial level design.

I design systems-oriented games.

that's largely because I find level design a pain in the ass. :)

I just do this as a hobby to keep my brain happy.

Yeah, it's a rite of passage for game devs who don't have the art skills :)

5:13 PM

hunting down an exception right now :(

haha that makes more sense.

Well back to real work.

Later all.

Same. Later dude.

a nice level geometry generator would work wonders for a jet combat game too

to make each level more diverse

5:27 PM

hello world

how's everyone today?

h e l l o p e t e r . t h e w o r l d h a s b e e n e x p e c t i n g y o u .

creeped

^ His spacebar is malfunctioning.

so I finally emigrated from Google Reader to Feedly

I should have done it sooner, Feedly looks nice in comparison

user4704

I use Reeder, it rocks, I have only one complaint with it.

5:44 PM

the suspense

I hate cliffhangers

@Jimmy the iPad Feedly app is sleek

love it

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7:38 PM

there's a HD remake for the first Fable coming soon

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8:04 PM

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holy crap there's a big animal on that plate

and there's a bunch of other smaller animals in the lower left corner

ew.

/joke

still, seafood is disgusting

ToddersLegrande

I had lobster once and it was quite good. And I love shrimp

I'm less of a fan of fish

I can stand and eat fish

but not shrimp

nor lobster

actually I used to really like fish as a kid

I'd also go very often to a nearby river and fish

so, why not crustaceans?

because ew

I love all of 'em.

<3 Seafood.

8:14 PM

I caught a crab once

I think I was 10 or so

man was I scared

I also will try just about anything.

Except eating cockroaches.

you make bear grylls happy

Well, I'd also like to stay away from anal sex.

Maybe giving, but not receiving.

The Kuna have been successfully resistant to Hispanic assimilation, largely retaining their dress and language in migrant communities throughout Panama.

of course they've been

they used (I hope) to eat everyone

ToddersLegrande

@AlexM. Sushi?

8:26 PM

what about sushi? :D

ToddersLegrande

I curious if you like it

You eat fish, not shellfish, but will you eat seaweed?

Though I suppose thats the trouble with sushi... so many varieties

I never tried sushi

but it's still raw fish

I like fried fish only

ToddersLegrande

Ah

mum's a fan of any type of seafood

she also likes fish pizza

I can't even stand the smell

8:47 PM

oh, I love sushi.

wait wait, I ate something else that came from the sea and I enjoyed

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in Romanian we call them "inele de calamar" which means "rings of squid(?)"

I've had calamari rings before, they're good.

yup

Like onion rings, but tougher and chewier, and not onion-flavored.

but put a whole squid or octopus near me

and I throw up

8:50 PM

Octopi have such a nasty texture.

and ugly tentacles

I can eat calamari once it's cooked, but a raw octopus doesn't go anywhere near my mouth.

I wonder if Japanese octopuses also rape you

if they're dead they probably don't though

oh man I kept on giving myself a massage through my slippers w/ the chair's foot

and now I've got this huge hole in the right slipper

#TotallyWorthIt

#Yolo

got bored of them anyway

to the store then

I shall buy myself new slippers

ToddersLegrande

The one time I tried fried calamari it was just like eating chewy breading with no real other flavor

just FYI there's a good chance we'll be having moderator elections soon to beef up our mod team

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8:56 PM

yeah, they don't have that much of a pronounced taste

but with lemon they're good

@Tetrad I nominate...

wait I got this

uhh

@CodeAssass... I can't mention him

he's all hiatus and stuff again

nevermind then

ToddersLegrande

He's on vacation

oh yeah I remember now

he had a rough train ride

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