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12:41 AM
You'd have think I'd have learned by now that step 1 when your script isn't working...
is to make sure you actually attached the durn script!
 
lol :P
 
related: see "why isn't my shader showing anything on the screen"
"A: because you're not drawing any geometry"
 
lol at both xD
 
 
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2:40 AM
Hullo, @JoshPetrie.
 
 
1 hour later…
3:50 AM
guys... do you know how to handle google chrome?
because every time I load a page, it comes up as a simple html and I need to reload the page so (most) of the things appear, usually it takes a few refreshes, but I need to always refresh once at least...
 
 
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4:54 AM
example page?
 
5:10 AM
every time I open youtube (for the first time)
but if I reload it then gets it right
once or twice I may get the ocasional "image not loaded" icon on some things but other than that...
@Jimmy any idea what it could be?
 
hmmm not sure
does it happen with other browsers
FF/IE
 
@Jimmy I would have to say "no"
 
try the usual stuff - disable all "hook" apps like antivirus/firewall software (except the windows one, that works) - those tend to create problems like that
chrome doesn't have such bugs currently and if other browsers run fine, there could be an external problem
 
5:26 AM
hm dont know... I think it's like this since I imported my configurations from my other account
 
had any proxies set up?
some weird extensions, perhaps?
 
tried nuking your cache yet?
 
5:41 AM
nope, how do I reset my chrome cache though?
 
ctrl-shift-delete
 
++
thanks ;)
well guys I am off to bed, thanks again
youtube (which was usually the "worst" site) is now working well at least... gotta check it out tomorrow though
night people
 
 
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9:39 AM
is there some design pattern to use for player / network input, actions and character states, actions
like i click on enemy, so i want to move and start attacking (and send correct packets), and character needs to change its position and play animation
 
@Kikaimaru what a silly question
 
sure
 
what you'd probably need more is an algorithm
 
i forgot to add that its in component based system
i dont think i do
everything is working, but i dont like the way it does
 
design patterns don't solve that
they solve one problem only - giving names to common things (although they're not that good at that, too)
so uh... redesign it.
 
9:51 AM
sure but someone had to do this too, so im asking how did he do that
and its useful to use common names because people would know whats going on just after reading class name
 
@Kikaimaru this is a better question but for the wrong audience - you need to read source code for that
@Kikaimaru not necessarily, often just wrong
 
@snake5 so i should ask source code?
i dont think it will answer
 
@Kikaimaru if you think so, you could perhaps tell me (time limit: 5 seconds) what this class does: static.springsource.org/spring/docs/2.5.x/api/org/…
@Kikaimaru I said you should read it
 
@snake5 so i should read some random source code?
 
@Kikaimaru the source code that does what you need
I really hoped it wouldn't be so hard to understand
 
9:57 AM
well i hoped that it wouldnt be hard to understand that i am asking game developers in what way they develop certain part of their game
and where shoud i find piece of code that does this, if i dont even know how its called
maybe i should ask some game developers, right?
oh look what iam doing here...
 
you might be looking for some variant of "message passing" patterns
like, signal/slot systems or blackboards
71
Q: Entity communication: Message queue vs Publish/Subscribe vs Signal/Slots

deft_codeHow do game engine entities communicate? Two use cases: How would entity_A send a take-damage message to entity_B? How would entity_A query entity_B's HP? Here's what I've encountered so far: Message queue entity_A creates a take-damage message and posts it to entity_B's message queue. ...

the question brings up some good comparisons, and the second answer is also very good
 
10:26 AM
yeah
easiest way is best :P
 
 
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2:44 PM
So I beat Hard on Super Hexagon. A game that comes with Hard, Harder, and Hardest and 3 locked modes
it unlocked "Hardester" hahaha
 
any idea for .com domain for action multiplayer games? :)
 
multiplayeractiongames.com?
 
:D
rapidfriendbash.com :P
 
yeah i thought about that :)
hm multiplayeractiongames.com is taken :)
actionmultiplayergames.com this is not :)
 
damn domain parkers :(
 
2:52 PM
isnt there some program where i put words like "zynga" "geewa" and it will output new word? :)
 
internet anagram
service or something
I, rearrangement servant.
 
well i dont want anagram, i dont need same letters, just something in that spirit :)
 
thesaurus?
 
i dont think zynga is in thesaurus :)
 
so how could something possibly give you a related word to zynga?
 
2:59 PM
i dont know
neural network?
:)
 
the word "zynga" being some sort of direction? heh, I think it's one of the most disgusting company names, ever
 
Zynga is the name of the dog, named for a real dog owned by one of the founders, I think.
 
poor dog
 
yeah zynga is that bulldog in their logo
 
lemme take a minute here to discredit your choice of a role model :D
 
3:09 PM
silkroad is nice name, sadly its mmorpg and also a black market for drugs :)
 
it's historical, if I'm not mistaken
 
yep i know
 
I've never heard about the relation with drugs, though
 
its a page on tor
Silk Road is an online black market operated as a Tor hidden service. History The website launched in February 2011 with development having begun six months prior. Buyers can register on Silk Road for free, but sellers must purchase new accounts through auctions to purportedly mitigate the possibility of malicious individuals distributing tainted goods. , monthly sales are estimated to be slightly over 1.2 million US dollars, which corresponds to approximately 92,000 US dollars per month in commissions for the Silk Road operators. Products The majority of products available to purcha...
what about Dysnei that sounds like a cool name :)
 
hahah
 
3:30 PM
@Kikaimaru nauseous :D
btw, what's the theme of the game?
action and multiplayer isn't really precise
with that kind of description, I might suggest "gunpowder path" as well as "luggabump" or "shazamaniacs"
 
3:47 PM
@Kikaimaru panabee.com
 
-"append "ly"" -wtf
like we don't have enough of "-ly" domains
amusingly.
or "ify"
 
spotify
 
@snake5 its just simple games that were singleplayer and now are multiplayer :)
what about
gamesonsteroids.com
 
EVE orbital bombardment of planets where people are playing Dust514: youtube.com/watch?v=kp2XvR7Kw-Y
 
4:22 PM
Hm. Is this the future of gaming? Interconnected games, set in the same universe?
 
i cant wait for playing diablo and having ground under mine feet mined out by minecraft player!
 
EVE is a special case since it's an MMO without sharding. everyone's in the same galaxy
but it might become more common over time
 
hey, any of you know the "Akamai NetSession Client"?
 
4:39 PM
no, sorry
 
Because when I turned on my laptop today, it had NO wireless connection
wouldnt detect any networks and I did the solve issues thingie and all and fiddled around with it
 
Did you accidentally flip a switch/push a button on your laptop?
 
suddenly one of those warning appeared, "disable some startup applications to improve windows performance"
and I was like "what? but I installed nothing"
and when I went there I saw that "Akamai NetSession Client" was on
I disabled it as well as task-killing the .exes it had
restarted and now it works
that's why I wondered if you guys knew that
dunno if it's a virus or something...
it could also be a windows 8 thing... I had another windows 8 program that was eating at least 4GB or RAM while doing nothing
 
@Madcowe I believe that issue was your driver for Windows 8 and not Windows 8 itself
At least thats how I understood @Jimmy's explanation
 
Don't know for sure what it was... but disabling IntelliMem fixed it
 
4:52 PM
Well I have Windows 8 and I don't have IntelliMem. So Windows 8 isn't the problem
sounds like the manufacturer has put a bunch of junk on your computer and its them you should be upset with. Not Windows 8
(Or you have downloaded junk)
 
ah you got me wrong
I'm not saying that windows 8 is the problem itself, I'm just saying that some apps (which maybe come with it or something on some cases) may create some issues some times
but I don't know how those behave on other OS's or even how they appeared on min
 
Yeah but "maybe its a Windows 8 thing" and "I had another Windows 8 program that was eating at least 4GB of RAM while doing nothing" gives the impression that Windows 8 is bad when that's really not the case.
 
ah sorry for that then :)
I do think windows 8 is a bit weird, but that is normal, people always feel odd about changes
and if there are OS bugs, it might still be because they are still debugging it
 
No worries. Just trying to be clear so as to not give the Metro haters more to rage about.
 
The metro thing is as I said, it's different so people will have a hard time adpating it
I dont like it very much but just because it's like they are trying to replace tablets and smartphones with computers... but other than that...
 
5:07 PM
The thing people seem to get confused over is that the metro "Start Screen" is not a desktop. It IS the start button. Just launch your apps from it. I use the search feature so I haven't even organized mine at all. As for metro apps, if you are on a desktop, don't use them. They hinder multitasking quite a bit. The only metro apps I have used since installing Win8 are games.
For those that claim it breaks workflow by going full screen, I don't think those people have tried it. Its so fast.
Either that or they are just making excuses
 
my mega-Mac sister who hates all things Windows loves W8
 
lol @ "mega-Mac" xD
@ToddersLegrande yea, I still have some troubles about not having the start button... at least the search thing works faster and is organized...
 
I like Windows 8. Don't see much of a difference from Windows 7 with some minor UI things since I don't use metro. I don't think I do but I might fall into the "fanboy" category. My big concern is I don't like all the FUD being spread around.
 
@ToddersLegrande true true... You may start on the metro but after you click desktop it's pretty much the same
without the start button of course...
 
5:13 PM
and since it apparently uses up less resources and it's faster... it's like an upgraded windows 7 in some ways
 
5:30 PM
@ToddersLegrande windows 8 on desktop?
 
shame Windows 8 isn't slow. then its nickname, W8 would have real meaning
3
 
@Madcowe and with a weird positioned shutdown button!
 
Nice...
 
@ToddersLegrande so far all I heard about Win8 was positive feed backs.
except a friend of mine who could not run SpaceChem on his device.
 
5:32 PM
That's good.
 
ooh Space Chem
 
@Almo so you've played it too?
 
I'm proud of this solution: youtube.com/watch?v=1iZlvcwL52c
I love programming games like this
 
@ToddersLegrande I was kinda temped to buy SMB in the past day.
it was 75% off and I wanted to show off my achievements!
 
Curse the day Super Meat Boy came out and ruined the acronym SMB forever.
 
5:34 PM
hahah
 
Great game but I always have to stop a minute and think... is he talking about Super Mario Brothers or Super Meat Boy?
 
SMB will always refer to the Nintendo creation, in my mind.
 
@ToddersLegrande I just did when I was reading what Chunk said xD
 
That's always my first thought but it seems more often than not these days people are talking about Super Meat Boy and as such it just doesn't make sense.
 
5:36 PM
I knew it used to have some other meaning, but I can't remember it now :(
 
I mean... Super Mario Brothers is 75% off??? AND IT HAS ACHIEVEMENTS NOW?!?! Shut up and take my money.
2
 
Truth be told, part of the joy of the classic SMB games was coming up with your own achievements.
...like getting so many extra lives from the turtle-jump that the game can't display them properly.
 
My own achievement I tend to put on myself for it is "Ok... I'll beat the game without using ANY warps this time."
World 8 is so hard.
 
Seriously.
 
:( I got to..... world 2
and then decided I'm too old for these newfangled jumping games
 
5:40 PM
super mario with achievments?!
where
 
@Kikaimaru not SMB. SMB.
 
Server Message Block
 
Super Meat Boy is very hard. But it does a good job making it accessible, like zero death-respawn time.
 
what? :)
 
Super Meat Boy was good fun. I should go back and get all the goodies
 
5:41 PM
meat also has good handling
I dont' like the slight slipperiness of late mario games
 
the 2D ones didn't have that much slip
I think achievements are a Good Thing. The gamers who don't care can ignore them for the most part, and the gamers who do get more value out of the game.
 
I don't live for achievements but I do enjoy getting them
 
and it helps give direction to people who don't have natural exploration initiative
 
Minus the "One for free" I got
I forget which game that was...
 
5:45 PM
for example, Minecraft achievements are basically the only way you know what to do next, unless you Read the Internet
 
yeah one for free. wtf
In real life, I'm a bit of a lefty. I like universal health care. but in game design, you should have to earn everything you get
I call the trend "left-wing game design" where designers try to let everyone have everything. The argument is, "they paid for it" which makes an amount of sense, but if it's all easy, it's no fun. so it falls apart.
 
screw that logic
you play my game, you're playing on my turf. I set the rules, and you abide by them, you puny mortals
4
 
that's the way I look at it anyway
:)
 
I wish games were simpler, more difficult and had lots of hidden goodies in them.
 
@ToddersLegrande Sounds like you need an exploding chess set
 
5:56 PM
I'll take it
I actually do wish to own a nice chess set one day
 
simple + difficult is good
but I dont' want to create another platformer
has anyone played Ni no Kuni?
 
No PS3
 
If I'm going to make Pokemon Fantasy Tacticscraft Online, Ni no Kuni is probably good to play for research purposes
 
I'm tired of so many art games being platformers
I like art games, but I don't like platformers
 
I love me some platformers
Still need to finish outland
 
6:01 PM
@Jimmy you should go and add a lot of cool stuff to that GrindFest mmorpg!
 
I'd prefer to work on a 3D engine
 
Outland is really good
 
no problem in remaking it to 3d :)
 
ooh, never seen it before
anything based on Ikaruga and Out of this World has to be good, though :P
 
:D
made by Housemarque. they made SuperStardust (awesome) and Dead Nation (awesome)
 
6:10 PM
@Almo actually there are less than 10 levels I couldn't beat. (including warp zones)
 
I've never liked Super Mario much, so I don't really know much about it
 
lol and he even got the start
 
I grew up on SNES Mario. I was unimpressed with 3D marios although it seems everyone loves Mario 64
 
@Jimmy because I think super mario 64 was one of the games that made a leap into 3D and got it right
 
I am not impressed by 3D I guess
2D Zeldas > 3D Zeldas as well imo
 
6:15 PM
I like 3D with 2D gameplay
I never finished A Link to the Past but I loved Links Awakening
 
@Jimmy also 2D bionic commando > 3D bionic commando as far as many concern
 
I'm choosing to ignore the notion that anyone ever made a 3D bionic commando
 
@Jimmy well, I really liked 3D version, note that I played that game in PC
 
Mario 64 was actually quite good I thought
 
yeah, I loved it
 
6:18 PM
I think the biggest problem about 3D is the usual "bettar grafiks must meen bettar gayme!"
 
Mario Galaxy wasn't too shabby either.
Didn't get too far into Mario Galaxy 2 (this was the beginning of my never being able to finish a game problems)
 
castlevania games, the platformers, are my favorite games ever... the 3D ones are just not the same
 
:( yeah... I don't have a Wii, so never got to play Mario Galaxy (yet)
 
I liked Sunshine better than Galaxy
 
Didn't play Sunshine. Didn't own a gamecube!
 
6:20 PM
I didn't own a cube either
only N hardware i've ever had were GBA and DS
 
I didn't... pirate it?
 
hard to pirate cube games, isn't it?
they're on those weird-sized proprietary discs
 
hey wanna know a game that nobody can deny that 3D made it the worst thing possible? :D
 
I dunno
I didn't... borrow someone's Gamecube and play it? (or play it at someone else's place of residence)
@Madcowe Final Fantasy VII?
:P
 
how about the sonic games? anyone here played sonic the hedgehog on the ps3?
 
6:22 PM
have not played a sonic game on PS3
some games are great due to 3D. Rollcage, Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars...
 
Banjo Kazooie
 
Yeah, that was pretty good
 
but seriously, sonic the hedgehog on the ps3 has SO MANY BUG AND GLITCHES!
but even without that, the game is horrible in itself, awkward controls, and not even to mention the story line
that sonic falls in love with a human princess and while he holds her he gains some kind of super powers
if you press a button he creates a bubble that makes you walk on sand
which in itself is an ok concept... quick sand and all...
but the thing is, if you do not have the barrier on, you dont just sink in the sand, you fall through it as if it didnt exist!
I mean even I could program a sinking function or something and I hardly know how to program
 
You know what game is better in 3D? StarCraft
 
just because the original engine is 2D and buggy though.
if they fixed the timing, animation, and glitches, I'd be just as willing to play Super Brood Wars Turbo HD Remix.
 
6:38 PM
yeah i'd say the 3d did help starcraft
but it's still 2d gameplay
Homeworld is a great 3d game
 
@Almo Nothing stopped people from passing out disc images for cube emulators. Well, aside from the encryption, but you know how that goes.
@Madcowe Wouldn't sonic have no real problem running on quick sand?
 
@JohnMcDonald I don't remember if I told you or not and it just popped into my head... Your Awesomium demo was perfect. Thanks again!
 
How did people get the info off the cube discs? I was under the impression they were not readable in standard cd drives
 
@Noctrine as I said, that game is horrible
have you guys ever played sonic adventure 1 or 2? where you have the light dash which makes sonic follow a trail of rings at high speed?
well, on that ps3 games he has that... but sometimes he just stops mid-air causing you to die
 
6:59 PM
So I'm looking for a summer internship. I've applied to the big boys (Microsoft, some EA places) but was wondering if people knew of studios what would be interested in summer interns?
 
Has anyone here had experience with libgdx? I'm looking to get back into game development and it seems like a decent engine.
 
where you live?
 
Atlanta, GA
open to temporarily moving though if the pay is enough to cover that
 
Do internships in the games industry pay?
 
I would hope so
 
7:02 PM
I'm in Canada, I don't know how easy it is to get a visa for an internship.
 
considering I'm coming from a fairly reputable university do think it would be a problem?
 
I know it's not so hard to get work permits, but that's for permanent employment. I don't know about internships
you'd have to ask someone who knows about that kind of thing :)
 
@Almo does your company do paid internships?
 
Are unpaid internships actually a thing?
 
there are only 9 of us, +1 intern, and I do not know if he is paid
I honestly hope so
 
7:07 PM
I cooped at a web dev company and made +$20 an hour and got a raise each semester
 
@ClassicThunder WHAT THE EFF!
 
Is expecting something similar that unreasonable in the gamedev industry?
 
no idea
 
7:49 PM
@ToddersLegrande yeah, no problem
 
@ClassicThunder Yeah I made $17 an hour at my internship but I was under the impression that simple QA internships you shouldn't expect to be compensated much, if at all. Maybe people were just spreading false information.
 
8:00 PM
so what do you think about domain name GamesOnSteroids.com? :)
 
NeedsToSeekProfessionalHelp.com
What was the theme you were going with?
Action Multiplayer?
 
yes
 
Eh... I don't have any good ideas myself
Names are always hard
Takes me forever to start a new MMO trying to come up with a character name
 
heheh
 
well i have "Kikaimaru" for that :)
 
8:12 PM
just pick a random set of letters
and turn it into a name
 
fkoreajg
well thats harder
 
I use sets of names
 
or just pick a historical scientist name
 
korea FJG
 
Fork Jig
 
8:13 PM
d2 frost archer Norjia GW1 bowchick Norjia Swiftbow EVE Online Norjia Blacksteel
 
BowchickaSwiftbow
 
turns out norjia is a plural noun of some sort in a scandanavian language
 
in eve online i have Richard (Rich) Profit :)
 
:)
 
he sounds like the brother of Maximillian Powers
 
8:15 PM
i hate that you cant control multiple ships in eve
so scientist you say, what about mengelegames.com
 
eve's not an rts, so it's not surprising :)
 
never new about the others :)
@Almo you can do it in X3
 
you can command multiple ships in eve you just can rely on the ships listening to you :P
 
that doesn't make it the right option in eve
 
I recently rewatched Victor Borge's inflationary language routine (YouTube it now!) and thought that similar concepts should apply to names as well.
 
8:18 PM
also whats to be hosted on GamesOnSteroids.com?
 
yeah it's pretty funny
 
Maximillian should become Maxibillion
 
maximillian-and-one
 
Well
Yeah
Maxibillion sounds better though :D
 
yeah :)
 
8:19 PM
Baxibillion Billingsworth
 
You look twotiful threenight.
 
@ClassicThunder multiplayer action games :)
 
twoderful
 
^ that one
 
doesn't really indicate the multiplayer part
 
8:23 PM
multiplayergamesonsteroids.com?
gamesonsteroidswithfriends
what about YoMammaGames.com :)
 
just steroidswithfriends.com is available
 
what about dosteroidsnow.com
buysteroidsandbringfriends.com i think i dont need to make games with site like that
 
gettingactiontogether.com is available
 
gettingactiontogether +1
 
8:25 PM
NeverPlayWithYourselfAgain.com is available
 
@ToddersLegrande it is? thats odd
 
also +1
 
plusonegames? gamesplusone
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames.com is also free
jesuslovesthissite.com is free that could attract people from usa
 
SinglePlayerIsForLosers.com
 
what about cornflowergames.com :)
 
8:32 PM
getpwnt.com is available
 
StopPlayingWithYourself.com?
prolly taken though
 
EveryTimeYouDontPlayMyGameGodKillsKitten.com
you know this site? :)
 
scared to click is it sfw?
 
it is, its email provider or whatever
 
that's funny
I used to have almo@fuckinginternet.com, but that provider stopped hosting it
need more UE3 people in here
I have more questions
 
8:47 PM
kikaimaru@fuckyou.com would be nice or kikaimaru@becausefuckyou.com
 
those guys had a whole range of profane domain names
 
9:04 PM
why is giasu and gyasu.com taken?
is there even free 5 letter domain? :)
 
you have to use less common letters
like xkcp.com or something :P
 
xx? anything is taken :)
 
9:17 PM
@Almo tutor me on US and maybe one day I'll be good enough to help :P
 
hahah
 
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