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12:45 AM

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Q: Is it a real life financial institution that appeared in the movie Margin Call?

In the movie Margin Call, I am wondering if this unnamed investment bank was real? As it was inspired by a true story.

margin-call

Ankit Sharma

3:06 AM

@NapoleonWilson this Lion King question was quite poplar one and kind of valid too

Realism question working here pretty well from years why so resistance all of sudden

Movie Reel

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Q: How accurate is the O.J. Simpson trial series?

Several months ago I watched The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story, and from what I can remember, most of the events in the series seemed accurate to what actually happened, but I'm definitely no expert on the subject.. Are there any aspects of this show that just aren't true? Was th...

analysis american-crime-story

Movie Reel

3:26 AM

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Q: Texas Chainsaw Massacre

In one of the movies they show and talk about the murders from the family and actually have real footage in the end. Yet, sites are saying different. Is it true?

horror

Ankit Sharma

7:48 AM

Done with my update for answer to @AJ 's answer and now I have official words for necronomicon being part of friday thr 13th universe

Nog Shine

That's fast @AnkitSharma

John Joe

This medium is clearly more limited than the stack exchange website, but I guess I'll give it a try. I am working on trying to show that stoereotypes of Native Americans are still propagated in films today in the 21st century, but I am having difficulty finding a variety of examples beyond a couple typical and older ones. Does anyone know of contemporary examples?

Nog Shine

@AnkitSharma What is a deadite?

Nikhil Eshvar

@NogShine An evil dead-universe monster/demon variant

Nog Shine

@JohnJoe We don't have tags about Native American, Indian etc., because we don't entertain questions like those. We have film tags, specific film industry tags to tag properly.

BTW, I didn't DV your question

Movie Reel

8:02 AM

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Q: What are 21st century films that depict Native Americans in a stereotypical way?

I am working on trying to show that stoereotypes of Native Americans are still propagated in films today in the 21st century, but I am having difficulty finding a variety of examples beyond a couple typical and older ones because of how unfairly underrepresented this issue is in media. There are ...

modern-times

John Joe

Yes you don't entertain questions that people desperately struggle to ask

how noble of you

Nog Shine

Thank you.

John Joe

and then even here

as oer your request

you don't provide useful information

as per the community's request*

Even saying that such discussions is "entertaining" is insulting.

I cannot believe stackexchange is that blatently racist

JAD

Primary Meanings of
entertain
1.
v
provide entertainment for
2.
v
take into consideration, have in view

John Joe

and both interpretations, "we don't consider racial issues" doesn't sound any better.

it sounds like you're actively shutting down people who try and discuss serious problems

JAD

8:06 AM

if they're off-topic to the website, yes.

John Joe

they're not off topic at all

your site is about films

I'm looking for info about films

couldn't be any more direct

Mithrandir

It's not that questions asking about racism are not allowed, it's that asking for a list of films is not allowed on this site

John Joe

and it's not allowed because it involves discussions such as these

which is why someone said they don't entertain these discussions

makes sense now

Mithrandir

No. That is not why.

John Joe

then explain to me, exactly, how I can get the information I seek from stackexchange

there literally aren't even tags about "Native American" films or actors

Mithrandir

8:08 AM

I don't think you can, because that type of question - asking for a list - simply does not fit the Stack Exchange model, no matter what the subject is.

John Joe

many other stack exchange sites provide users with general information that contain lists of information and arguable points

JAD

@JohnJoe because classifying movies based on race and such doesn't really seem appropriate

Mithrandir

@JohnJoe I don't think that there are tags about European actors either.

John Joe

You're right, it's not appropriate, but that didn't stop Hollywood form making hundreds of race-based films

that's a part of histopry and if you pretend it doesn't exist

that will perpetuate the problem

history*

There is a very reasonable way to discuss race

you only seem to be afraid of it

Mithrandir

...please, calm down. Nobody is denying that there are racism problems in films.

JAD

8:10 AM

but if it will make you feel any better, googling "movies about native americans" resulted in the following: imdb.com/list/ls006736250

like we said, Stackexchange is not suited for a biglist format

John Joe

then how about a small list?

maybe no more than 5?

JAD

just read the top5?

John Joe

sure if someone can present 5

that would be useful

Mithrandir

Sorry, that still won't work, because every answer will be equally valid.

JAD

look at that link I posted

John Joe

8:11 AM

and why is that bad?

JAD

take the first 5. bam done

@JohnJoe because it doesn't fit the SE format

you want a list of movies, go to a movie database.

John Joe

so why not expand the stack exchange to give it the flexibility to better serve users by providing this?

JAD

because it's a Q&A site, not a general purpose help-site

Mithrandir

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A: Are list questions off topic?

Questions that ask for a list are considered not constructive, as every answer is equally valid. Generally, those questions are infinite, as a new answer could always be added; they also tend to be subjective. As such, those questions should not be asked, basing on what written in the FAQ. Y...

John Joe

well I asked a question

and it has answers

I see no ethical dilemma with that

JAD

8:13 AM

the questions we entertain (got that word again) must have a verifyable correct answer. else this site would just be a pile of nonsense

Mithrandir

The Stack Exchange network has some very clearly defined rules that have been working for years. This is one of them.

John Joe

That's logically incorrect. Someone could post multiple examples and still be correct.

it's not limited to a pile of nonesense

that's just a false dichotomy

there's plenty of examples of users who make a genuine effort

so why not let them with this?

Mithrandir

Look. Arguing about it here is not going to make a difference.

JAD

did you read anything we just said?

John Joe

that's the problem, bringing up serious issues doesn't make a difference to you

you are part of the problem now

Mithrandir

8:15 AM

If you can make a case for allowing list questions, please make it on Movies & TV Meta

JAD

I don't think this is a serious issue

Mithrandir

@JohnJoe Whether or not an Internet website allows a certain form of question shouldn't be a serious issue

JAD

additionally, I already provided you with an easily google-able link to IMDb, so I don't really see what there is left to discuss

John Joe

The fact that you don't think it's a serious issue is part of why it is a serious issue, it is very agreeable by scholars that the media, in all its forms, is part of the issue, and ignoring that only makes you part of the problem. Just as another point, you said automatically equated any mention films featuring an ethnic group with "race-based" films as if to suggest any mere representation of that culture is automatically centered around persecution.

Mithrandir

What...

This has nothing to do with race.

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John Joe

8:19 AM

the list you provided features a list of mostly non-21st century films featuring ratings, it does not focus on bringing stereotypes to light that have offended people

it has a lot to do with race

members clearly stated they don't want to discuss topics of race

that's part of the problem is shutting down those discussions

Mithrandir

This has to do with the fact that list questions are not allowed here.

John Joe

Which, as pointed out, is partly to do with race, unless everything should be rephrased.

Nog Shine

Wait.. where did you get the idea that this is because of the race?

John Joe

but it seems the more you try to justify it, the worse you come across.

JAD

@JohnJoe topics of only race. This site is about movies, so topics should be on merit of movies, not race.

John Joe

8:21 AM

The merit of race? The topic was about movies, as stated.

The question is about movies, and it is answerable.

JAD

then stop bringing up race.

Nog Shine

What is your opinion guys? Approve or reject ? movies.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/73182

JAD

:shrug: indifferent

Nog Shine

The reason is removing profanity.

JAD

If your question was about movies with stereotypical white cis-het males in their 30s, it would have been equally off-topic.

Nog Shine

8:24 AM

@JAD Umm. whom are you talking to?

JAD

@NogShine o they left

Nog Shine

@JAD they are continuing in comments. If you wanna join..

Mithrandir

Don't engage.

JAD

kinda typical. They're saying on one side that the offensive stereotypes are still here in movies, but on the other hand need our help finding them

A J

Just VTDed it.

Nog Shine

8:31 AM

@AJ nothing

A J

@NogShine I guess I approved it.

Nog Shine

@AJ yes, you did

Ankit Sharma

@NogShine I have a real life too

@NogShine undead creature form Evil dead franchise

Nog Shine

@AnkitSharma Nice.

Nikhil Eshvar

I was gone for 5 minutes and open up to nearly 90+ messages... :O

Ankit Sharma

8:36 AM

My lion king answer will die horribly I guess :D

JAD

@NikhilEshvar yeah that was an interesting dumpster fire

Nog Shine

@NikhilEshvar you missed "entertainment" ;) cc@Mith @JAD

Nikhil Eshvar

@NogShine 5 MINUTES!!! I was gone for 5 MINUTES!!!

Nog Shine

I mean a suggested edit review. Nothing else

Nikhil Eshvar

@NogShine Well atleast I got a reopen vote review queue from him :P

JAD

8:42 AM

@NogShine I'm sorry, we don't entertain entertainment here

Ankit Sharma

9:04 AM

Done with my secodn ToW question cc@AJ @steelersquirrel

I hope ti does better then previous one

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Q: How did they come up with the idea of using Hockey mask for Jason Voorhees?

How did they come up with the idea of iconic hockey mask for Jason Voorhees? He didn't even wear that mask before Friday the 13th Part III. SO how did the makes got up with this idea, as hockey mask doesn't sound so scary before Jason wore it. Did they every addressed this in any interview or any...

character production friday-the-13th

A J

@AnkitSharma done answering. let's hope it will get in HNQ.

Ankit Sharma

@AJ ooops it was that easy, didn't realised

A J

yup

I was really surprised.

Ankit Sharma

ohhh

wow yesterday I did got 155 rep, if I had tried bit harder, I might have got rep cap

Nikhil Eshvar

12:01 PM

I have started a bounty for rewarding an answer. Should I give it right away or should I let it go for a week and then reward it?

Mithrandir

up to you. i'd leave it for a week to give 'em more exposure

JAD

the time I gave a bounty here I left it as long as possible. Hoping the feature would create more upvotes for that answer

Memor-X

@NikhilEshvar depends on why you started it. if you wanted better answers then leave it but if there was an answer that you wanted to reward regardless (maybe because it's far better than the accepted one) then reward it right away

Nikhil Eshvar

I like the answer (it is accepted). But as others said, perhaps let everyone see the answer though. It could get some exposure... So yeah, I'm gonna try to be patient and award it later....

JAD

you could even refer to that answer in the bounty message to point people explicitly towards that answer

Ankit Sharma

12:33 PM

@NikhilEshvar I prefer to keep it for a time being to give it more exposure

I lost faith in winning this ToW

I might ask another question tomorrow but not sure

DForck42

1:30 PM

boop

A J

@DForck42 dhoop

Mithrandir

o/

A J

@DForck42 "dhoop" actually means sunlight. :P

DForck42

@AJ lol

how's everyone been?

A J

1:50 PM

Fine. You?

Movie Reel

2:45 PM

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Q: Husband & wife twice - coincidence?

I just re-watched Argo (2012) after not having seen it in quite a while. In the meantime, I've watched the series Halt and Catch Fire (2014–17). So I couldn't help noticing that Scoot McNairy and Kerry Bishé play husband & wife in both. I'm not aware of any other connection between this movie and...

actors argo halt-and-catch-fire

DForck42

3:17 PM

@AJ good, liking the new job

@JohnJoe the answer is that, in the creation of stackoverflow and the stackexchange network in general, the creators wanted to get away from a forum feel and wanted people to get clear, concise answers to real world problems. asking "what are the top 5 x" generally has no 1 true answer, and would spark a lot of debate and long form discussion. these were allowed in the very early days but were found problematic and removed

@JohnJoe each site on the SE network has a different culture and handle things differently, so rules are a bit wish-washy between sites. for example, on movies we are WAY more strict on what we deem trivial questions as compared to our sister site scifi. you realy have to spend time on a site, and particularly it's meta, to really get a feel for how it works. the help center will get you part way there, but there's so much that it jsut can't cover

@JohnJoe i would also add that, as a site, culturally we're not against questions about race, as long as they fit inside the scope of this site.

Ankit Sharma

6:03 PM

@DForck42 wow, long time no see

the last sentence is kind of funny considering the film shows scar murdering mufasa, and his rule implies much in the way of murder and feasting when it shows the wasteland that became of the pride land as well as the whole elephant graveyard. Just the song "cant wait to be king" is really saying he can't wait for his dad to die. Lion King is messed up. I partly think they threw the bugs in there just for the fun of making it as disgusting as possible. — Kai Qing 2 hours ago

O.o

DForck42

@AnkitSharma yup, nbeen super busy

Ankit Sharma

6:27 PM

ohh

I hope it's all fun

DForck42

8:22 PM

@AnkitSharma yup

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

8:58 PM

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Q: How did they come up with the idea of using Hockey mask for Jason Voorhees?

How did they come up with the idea of iconic hockey mask for Jason Voorhees? He didn't even wear that mask before Friday the 13th Part III. So how did the makes got up with this idea, as hockey mask doesn't sound so scary before Jason wore it. Did they ever address this in any interview or anythi...

character production friday-the-13th

I'd have edited AJ's answer too but he barely said anything

@DForck42 being busy is fun? You mean . . . Having a real, non-digital life is fun?

Where are you from, exactly?

I hope it's not Stockholm

@JohnJoe dude, chill out. We just don't want list questions. It's not because they're never good, it's because they're covered elsewhere and we don't want to be copycats

Sheesh.

@Mith your avatar is about gender

Mithrandir

eyebrow

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Ankit's avatar might be offensive to slashers

@Mithrandir yuck, I'm not hungry

Mithrandir

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ ...what

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@DForck42 Yeah, for example, "was the accident in Rush realistic?"

@Mithrandir you just offered me an eyebrow, and I don't like local food