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Q: ◳◰ ◓◨ ◨◧◕ ◎◌ ◱◯◱◯ ◍◌○ ◉◉ ◇◔◓◕ ◐►◓◒ ◒◑ ◈◑ ◆◆◓ ◉◉◉

A E◳◰ ◓◨ ◨◧◕ ◎◌ ◱◯◱◯ ◍◌○ ◉◉ ◇◔◓◕ ◐►◓◒ ◒◑ ◈◑ ◆◆◓ ◉◉◉ Administrative details (not part of the puzzle): The answer is a clue to The Security to the Party [12] (now with party soundtrack!) which is currently unsolved and has a bounty for the first person to solve it. For the benefit of anyone witho...

Nice. The four square symbols renders in my browser as empty squares. Don't know why...
I'm using chrome too. Odd...
I think that you will need to add something more to explain the challenge, otherwise some people might close-vote as "unclear what you're asking".
Curiously, all the symbols render correct in my URL, but not in the page. So this might be something about the system fonts... Anyway, I have the picture.
Also, the explanation is kind of lax.
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@QuyNguyen2013: What kind of clarification do you think would improve it? I can add more explanation.
What type of cipher is this?
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@QuyNguyen2013, working that out is part of the puzzle.
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This is probably like webdings or something. Check it out on notepad fonts.
@warspyking On notepad it renders exactly as the image using something like arial or times new roman...
A little additional help for people having font problems: here is a list of each character's name.
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Thank you @Kevin!
@Kevin link blocked at work :(
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I'll add Kevin's text to the question so everyone can see it.
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Tried writing abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ 0123456789 on Webdings, Wingdings, Wingdings 2 and Wingdings 3, and nope, just one or two of the symbols matched anything more by luck than anything else. However these symbols are present in the Segoe font family.
Two "words" made up only by the symbol "◉" (fisheye). That symbol never occurs with any other symbol in the same word. So, this may be some sort of separator. Or might be numbers: 2 and 3.
So I took each of these characters' hex value and converted them to decimal. And I'm nowhere. imgur.com/lWEDhW2
I'm wondering why no word has more than 4 letters. It is hard to write any useful english text without words with more than 4 letters.
I wonder if most of the difficulty of this puzzle would be negated if it wasn't written in Unicode...
Is the music tracks from the party something to do about the message or to the procedure used for decoding it?
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Hi @Victor! No: the answer to this puzzle is a clue for the party puzzle, but the party puzzle does not provide you with any clues for this one or anything you need to solve this one. It's a one-way relationship. You can safely ignore the music tracks for now.
@Victor, good idea though! :)
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@Victor re your fisheye, the pattern becomes 16/2/15/3 - or 18/18
I pasted the symbols into MS Word. Most of them come out in a font called MS Mincho, but a few in Times New Roman. They all seem to be pretty close together in Word's list of symbols. Can they all be translated backwards to land on letters of the alphabet?
This is so-o-o confusing! May be you can just leave the photo and conditions of the puzzle + your question about it (and remove all other historical stuff)?
Can you please tell if all the non-space characters fall in the range a-zA-Z? Or at least in the 32-126 code-point (ANSI) ranges?
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@Victor: the answer is English text using the normal character range.
By the way folks, I've added to the question some links about how to solve this general class of puzzle.
I feel like the double fish eye symbol is the separator. The it makes an even 16 symbols. I dont think simple substitution works here because the words are too small. it may be a block cipher since 16 is a square number.
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@stackErr but the second set is 15, not 16
@Raystafarian Theres three fisheyes at the end. I am considering one to be in the ciphertext and the double fisheye as the separator. I could be totally wrong as well :/
Surely "◱◯◱◯" is an interesting word. How many english words have the "xyxy" structure?
There also 21 different symbols. Assuming that these are two sentences, and that punctuation is included. I am guessing that there are atleast 18~19 letters out of the alphabet used. Which is a lot for such a small sentence.
My frequency analysis on the cipher if anyone needs it: i.imgur.com/DUabfcF.png and theres 12 spaces
@AE Is it case-sensitive? I.E. Do upper and lower case letters encode different symbols?
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@Victor: it's not case-sensitive. I'll add that info to the question. Great teamwork by the way guys, some very interesting analysis going on here!
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I think I have a good idea of what kind of cipher it is! A variation of a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher cipher. The square is encoded 12 different ways. The circle 12 different ways. and the triangle 2 different ways. Now I just need to allocate the letters to each symbol.
@AE Are there any concatenations? Or slang? Or acronyms?
My thoughts, in a different direction, was that the first 16 letters make 2 words (fisheye) and the next 15 letters makes 3 words (fisheye)
Most symbols are circles, diamonds and squares. The only exception is "►" (triangle pointing to right). Maybe this is important, specially if this is indeed a Pigpen.
@Raystafarian you work in that direction while I try the pigpen method. Lets see where we get
Not working with the symbols anymore, it should look like this - "zyabbwcvdefefudtxxsracqpajjhmhggaxxx"
Are they musical notes? Where the symbols can be read as a number, separated by spaces. And the number is converted to an alphabet. Lol
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@Raystafarian I too, were working with ab cd def gh ijij khl mm nocf pqcr rs ts uuc mmm. I suspect that the given text is written right-to-left too. (i.e. backwards)
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@stackErr: correction: The plaintext does not contain any slang or acronyms.
◳◰-◓◨-◨◧◕-◎◌-◱◯◱◯-◍◌○-◉◉-◇◔◓◕-◐►◓◒-◒◑-◈◑-◆◆◓-◉◉◉
Just FYI
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@AE is it only 6 words long? :P
@Raystafarian I took your cipher text, reversed it and changed the order a bit.
dcbacuustsrrclhkjijihgfed... this gives something along the lines of: to know was accould be belight
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@stackErr I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuE_jqYNi3c
@AE also removed the arrow symbols and the fisheyes from that
I meant @Raystafarian not @AR
@AE LOL :P
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:)
by or rum he papa new off it is sold mock
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@Raystafarian Brilliant. Post as an answer.
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@Victor LOL :P
I was thinking that ◱◯◱◯ could be "Gaga".
@AE are there names in the cipher?
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There are no proper nouns (names) in the plaintext.
I'm thinking along the lines of a cipher like the one from "The Shadow"
the three fisheyes at the end is what throws me off, no numbers (digits) right?
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@breadvelvet: Qn says "The answer is written text in the English language". You're safe interpreting that to mean that there are no digits 0-9 in the plaintext.
I'm still happily listening to my playlist btw. http://grooveshark.com/#!/playlist/Security+To+The+Party+12+Soundtrack/102305750
(no clue intended there, I just am).
@AE still are there roman numerals? :P
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@stackErr: there are no roman numerals. :)
You do realise, if nobody gets this, I'll have to create another puzzle, the solution to which is a clue to this one. :)
A puzzle that is a clue to a puzzle that is a clue to a puzzle.
@AE I am at work right now...boss caught me working at this :P. So I wont be able to help much until 6-7 later. Can you keep it open until tomorrow atleast? :P
6-7hrs
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@stackErr, sure, but someone else might solve it on the existing clues before that ...
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@AE thats fine. The original still wont be solved
man i dont even like spaghetti
@breadvelvet is that an answer???
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@stackErr: well, if the person who solves this one is feeling particularly sneaky then they might keep the plaintext secret, because it will give them an advantage solving the party puzzle.
Is there any punctuation (?, ;,.,!) in the cipher?
since there are concatenations
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you mean in the plaintext?
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yes
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there is no punctuation in the plaintext
How did the other people try to decipher it?
Clue to a clue to a clue to this clue to the puzzle :)
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it's been answered!
correctly"
I mean "correctly!"
? Someone answered it ?
Lol, double roc-13
Lol nice!
Very funny, or maybe roc-26
Magic Siblings
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@stackErr: thanks! :)
user5352 got this one as well http://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/4506/security-to-the-party-27-conspiracy-edition/4538#4538
they're on fire!
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@AE that was a smart way to do it! ed herrings
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takes a bow
Anything in a circle is a dot, anything with a straight boundary is a dash. :P
Sadly no ones solved mine yet...
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So now the question is, how could "magic siblings" have a bearing on the party question?
@QuyNguyen2013, give it some time.
@AE I know... Hmm... ASCII, binary, or maybe a shift cipher
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And I had created a list of two and three words letter trying to fit them in the text. But then someone posted an answer and showed me that I were way off the target.
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sorry @Victor! :(
@AE Ok, now back to the 12th party, your damn troll... :)
I will try to use my list for something like a puzzle...

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