Are you clever enough?

d'alar'cop

10:56

@avigrail bist du da?

avigrail

Good day to you sir

d'alar'cop

G'day sir

OK, let's do this thing

avigrail

Oh well, this will be fun :)

d'alar'cop

ok :p

for you

OK, so there are 3 verses...

the second one is cracked... right..

results in the egocentrism thing.. and "is"

avigrail

thumbs up

d'alar'cop

10:59

now we need to figure out what surrounds the reader

the mentioned "you"

avigrail

which is so easy

you wont believe it

I made sure everybody can find it

d'alar'cop

....

well you put "you" there

but what surrounds this is not as clear to me as I would like

:p

avigrail

that's my mental abuse :D

d'alar'cop

from the word building style..

1) two spaces..

avigrail

not that bad

d'alar'cop

11:01

2) t(u)v

avigrail

you need to explain #2 to me

d'alar'cop

well "surrounds you" could be "surrounds U"...

like in the alphabet

avigrail

I see

d'alar'cop

..TUV..

I take it that is not the one :p

avigrail

you are on clever guy

d'alar'cop

11:02

so, from the more literal... we have walls... air etc..

avigrail

stay close to words

as you said there is "space" around it

not worth stealing I assume

d'alar'cop

no

indeed we are trying to steal something..

avigrail

well, I saw this problem coming

maybe you try to extend the area you are stealing from

since this space is not what you want

first I used "encloses" instead of "surrounds"

d'alar'cop

by steal I though to remove letters (from some which I had already collected)

avigrail

right

what are the letters surrounding "you"?

d'alar'cop

11:08

s and f

if you take "you" as the old line it was

avigrail

or?

d'alar'cop

t or n

t and n

avigrail

How did you get these?

anyway, there is more

d'alar'cop

"The guy behind the screeN"

avigrail

also an interesting idea

there is more

d'alar'cop

11:12

ok, so the thing is that "steal" makes me feel like I'm removing letters..

but I barely have any so far..

avigrail

yes, by looking at the edited riddle it should be more clear

what surrounds "you"

it's as simple as it is

d'alar'cop

I'm sorry I don't see it

avigrail

the funnier it will be the moment you will see it

d'alar'cop

is there any hope of cracking these first?

"Even if tiny I call you tall
The first two lines contain no hint at all
"

avigrail

no. there is no hint in these lines :D

d'alar'cop

11:15

haha...

ok fine :p

so what surrounds "you"...

avigrail

I thought this is easy

(I thought this WAS easy?)

That's no hint. I'm not sure about tenses here

d'alar'cop

you are..

you were...

ur..

?

avigrail

<hint>Well, what surrounds "you". Let's stay close to the text</hint>

d'alar'cop

ok

there are 3 more instances of "you" there..

in the title.

in the intro..

and in the first line..

avigrail

yes

d'alar'cop

11:25

E-C

?

avigrail

you can find out yourself by using the "is"

is there a useful combination?

no

d'alar'cop

"The cat in the manger may misuse this as a hint."

that is a hint right?

avigrail

this is a pun from hell xD

nothing to think about

d'alar'cop

I'll be back in a bit

avigrail

Im going to get something to eat. I will be back soon.

d'alar'cop

11:35

adieu

!

:D

avigrail

confusing :D

Ciao

avigrail

12:33

Im back again

user132360

12:48

so... if the riddle is "me", then I'm "you" in the perspective of the riddle... so I'm "I" in my perspective, and what surrounds the letter "I" on the keyboard is "YOU", and that refers the the riddle

user132360

am i thinking it the right way?

avigrail

You double-used it

"so... if the riddle is "me", then I'm "you" in the perspective of the riddle."

stay with this

user132360

hmm... TIP surrounds YOU

user132360

i suppose the keyboard is the only thing in between the riddle and the real me ("you"), so I'm looking at the keyboard a lot

avigrail

but it doesn't surround you, does it?

user132360

12:53

what surrounds you might not be physical, isnt it

user132360

maybe a word play

avigrail

it is not physical, correct

user132360

maybe some word in the form of you

user132360

xxyouxx

avigrail

You never know until you know :)

user132360

12:57

maybe layour

user132360

layout*

user132360

layout is a suitable third person, and surrounds you

avigrail

But I'm the riddle, I'm not "you". I am "me"

user132360

I'm imagining myself as the riddle, in this void space looking at the reader... what surrounds him is basically more void space

user132360

its like a window that I could look through and see the reader

user132360

13:03

and nothing much surrounds the reader... maybe a window frame if I designed the void space to include it

user132360

I'm sure I am way off :p

avigrail

Not that much actually

you understood that you are "you"

which is very good

now you have to find out what surrounds "you". There are many possibilities, physical and non-physical ones.

user132360

and from the style of your riddle, is usually abstract

user132360

its*

avigrail

But maybe I want you to think that, you never know :)

user132360

13:07

hmm... maybe I should invoke the suggestion to use a list

user132360

maybe the list of all users from puzzling se

avigrail

wow nice idea, I might use this in the future :)

user132360

:'(

user132360

at least i know that is not where to look for now

user132360

is the conversation with "you" required to solve the puzzle... like if this chat never exist, the whole puzzle is not solvable anymore

user132360

13:12

and in this convo, you love to quote the word you with "", so those quotes surrounds you

avigrail

Again that is a very nice idea. But I'm only here to help

the riddle can be solved without my help

user132360

of course, because your riddle are "freaking easy"... haha

d'alar'cop

list....

avigrail

xD

freaking easy as I said

d'alar'cop

du bist ein arschloch

avigrail

13:15

hahaha

That's why I recommended using a list. It is helpful after all right?

d'alar'cop

well.. what is the "glue"...

avigrail

glue/clue is to eliminate the spaces

which are technically also surrounding

intending you have to stick sth together

user132360

maybe its just the trivial list of ABC

user132360

removing things from it and see what happens

user132360

den glue them together to get the solution

d'alar'cop

13:20

I have posted a solution

user132360

looks great

user132360

but how does it check out with the last part

user132360

some say im one, i say im many

avigrail

yes how does it

maybe someon can tell me

d'alar'cop

who is someon?

avigrail

13:24

it is someone

d'alar'cop

I know :p

I'm just relieved..

my life force is coming back..

the cyanide is lifting

user132360

haha congrats

avigrail

breath

d'alar'cop

avigrail = cyanide

avigrail

I got you there quite well

telling you the solution in the first line need no more hints I thought. Freaking easy I thought

d'alar'cop

13:26

It did help..

I was very suspicious about that line..

very

avigrail

That's why you solved it I guess :)

d'alar'cop

actually when nexo said "maybe I should use a list as you recommended..."

it dawned on me

user132360

haha

avigrail

that moment

i almost fell from my chair

user132360

is the check at the end

avigrail

13:27

haha

user132360

talking about how we pronouce the word "list"?

avigrail

it is more like "list" is singular but implies to be made out f many items

otherwise it is no list

d'alar'cop

I considered both

of those ideas

user132360

ahh i see...

d'alar'cop

I actually thought we were looking for something like "sheep" (irregular plurual)

avigrail

13:28

you sucked all the cyanide available

d'alar'cop

I edited for that last bit

avigrail

Well, would you agree that his was really easy?

I cant wait to give you the next one

user132360

haha...

user132360

well, easy indeed

avigrail

(it's really easy)

d'alar'cop

13:31

yeah.. .easy :p

user132360

let me try to get people to finish my riddle now

user132360

:D

avigrail

Ok will post my riddle in about 3 hours then

user132360

looking forward for it

d'alar'cop

I've looked at your nexo

:)

I noticed the numerical part of the clue looks like an IP address..

I had a quick try with imaginary numbers and was quickly stifled :(

user132360

13:34

someone got the IP address clue off already

user132360

its actually just atomic numbers

user132360

its not actually a duck :p

user132360

maybe we could discuss further there :D

avigrail

maybe a list can help here, too :)

user132360

yeah, list of elements

avigrail

13:35

almost forgot: you know what "list" means ?;)

user132360

the linked list kind of list?

user132360

no?!

avigrail

go translate the German word "list" to english

or any other language

d'alar'cop

cunning

:p

avigrail

which gives you another nice side effect

;)

d'alar'cop

13:36

a trick

user132360

oh wow!!!

d'alar'cop

you know what arschloch means right?

avigrail

Of course I do

This wont help me defusing a bomb Im afraid

d'alar'cop

haha..

how fun..

avigrail

@nex which one is your favorite? the party or the bomb?

d'alar'cop

13:41

ok avi, time for me to go to the hospital and sort out the last of my cyanide issue... I'll talk to you later :D

user132360

which bomb?

user132360

wait, I'm new here (3 days), so I wont know about old insider jokes

avigrail

Alright, I wish you all the best!

my mistake. which is your riddle?

user132360

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Q: Nerd on the Loose I

Chat. I've created a chat room in case anyone wish to discuss this further. Preface. This is the first time I'm creating a puzzle. Since I find enjoyment in science and technology, the series of puzzles I'll be creating will revolve around such topics. I might provide warning as a form of hint w...

avigrail

thanks a lot

user132360

13:44

here's the chatroom if you wish to discuss

user132360

Nerd of the Loose

avigrail

Not, yet ;)

user132360

alright... will look forward to your new "easy" puzzle :D

avigrail

It's so easy

you wont belive it

avigrail

13:57

Ok I solved the first part

nice work

dy n am i te

user132360

yes!

avigrail

now I have to reciprocate some more :D

user132360

indeed... every physics lover wanna reciprocate to this society

avigrail

is it worth going for radioactivity?

it's a long way that's why Im asking

user132360

no

avigrail

14:19

oh trigonometry

user132360

thats one of the clue ehh

avigrail

Yes, but I didn't know that since I'm not speaking English actually

user132360

what does SOH CAH TOA have to do with english?

avigrail

We have no idea this has to do with trigonometry here

on other countries these letters seem to be common

user132360

i see... since im from a chinese speaking country

user132360

14:23

TOA CAH SOH have a different meaning

user132360

in a dialect of chinese, it means older lady with big leg

user132360

so yeah

avigrail

haha nice

we have 52 weeks per year

(Y)

user132360

yes we do...

user132360

16:50

so are you there?

user132360

turns out im an educated person

user132360

and found blank image

avigrail

You are one clever guy

user132360

its on the mirror of the cabinate

user132360

so im in a land of nothingness?

user132360

16:52

im nothing?

avigrail

Well, first of all...how did you get to tthe mirror? by chance?

user132360

well hidden

user132360

i always wanted to hide clues in comments too

avigrail

Yes, there are 3 ways to find the mirror

2 and 1/2 maybe

user132360

hmm...

avigrail

16:54

it's enough to find it once

just go on :)

This is easy you know

user132360

haha i have trust issue with you :D

avigrail

You always should

user132360

checked the image, no slightly-not-white trick on hiding message

user132360

metadata have nothing... so its gonna be metaphorical huh

user132360

lets see, the supposingly soft toys are looking down from their cabinate

user132360

16:58

and mirror on it, reflects me

user132360

which is nothing but white patch of nothingness

avigrail

Well, no matter what I tell you, you wont believe me :D

user132360

wait is that a clue?

user132360

everything you said now sounds fishy

avigrail

clues are markes as <clue>Clue here</clue>

Yes I know, everbody says so

user132360

17:00

<?Wow, a lot of hidden text is here. Also its formatting is a mess and it's hard to tell which part is important. A distraction maybe? Well, you can have a look at it anyway.

user132360

you did not close this comment

user132360

is that accidental?

avigrail

Doesnt matter on SE

same with >!

you dont have to close it on order to hide messages

user132360

oh... but that might be a clue too

user132360

since u close the other one

avigrail

17:01

Strong analyzing skills incoming

user132360

oh no... i don't know what to believe anymore

avigrail

Cyanide all over the plays

user132360

i guess i will leave at at here for today

user132360

i will be back tomorrow

user132360

thanks

avigrail

17:03

No problem, enjoy!

avigrail

22:04

Dear moderator! This chat room is of no use any longer. I will appreciate if you delete/close it. Have a nice day!

Feeds

ManishEarth has deleted this room.

AJ Henderson has frozen this room.

AJ Henderson has undeleted this room.

AJ Henderson

thinking freeze makes more sense so that people can see it if they link for a while, but it should auto-delete eventually

freeze will prevent it from having random stragglings keeping it open though

user61230

@AJ Yeah, thanks. Was just thinking that. It's still linked from the question.

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Are you clever enough?