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14:03
@Sp3000 It's not too short either...
Hah but to convert Hello World! to h(); you need to make...
well it can take spaces, I assume
so 6 to remove World!
in Huby is everything that isn't h(); a syntax error?
and 5 to remove Hello and replace it with h();
I quite like this new challenge type. It also helps people learn obscure languages - for my answer in K, I just went through [this list on Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages) and picked out interesting-sounding languages until I found one that worked. Code-golf also makes you learn obscure languages, but only short ones (J, GolfScript, CJam).

We could probably do with a better winning criterion than "most answers" - it's not that bad but I'm sure there are more interesting possibilities out there.
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This might be a good resource.
14:11
@professorfish I click see full text but no more text shows up
yes i know
there isn't any more text
some weird bug
If only the output wasn't "Goodbye World!"...
@Sp3000 that'd make it too easy
if we can make this challenge type work, maybe we could make a similar one where two teams working against each other try to build up a program? it would need some work though. i've mentioned it before: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1677/16402
... to be honest, I think this question shouldn't have started with python
such a single line leaves you with MANY MANY MANY languages all possible of doing the same
there's no clever hax involved
starting with a semi-stripped java class or C# would have been better IMHO
14:16
what if we banned comments? that would be fun
maybe
at the moment all that everyone is doing is commenting out anything they can't remove
Yeah.. Comments are just an easy way out
kinda
I have to say, the challenge would've ended at GNU DC without comments
so if we ban comments there has to be some incentive to actually not lead the chain into a dead end
and there is at the moment (if you have the most answers, you can just end the challenge by posting in some obscure language, and win)
well, maybe a goal?
14:19
Maybe award a bounty to the 50 th answer or somehting
like uh...
well for this question it would be like making a java version, for instance
yes, that's good
so not only has each answer to work in some language
the goal is to end with one that works in java
how about this: you start with a fizzbuzz program

and your goal is to turn it into quicksort or something
winner= first answer to make it a working quicksort
@professorfish is also an idea, but what do you do with the intermediate steps
14:21
So it is actually like evolution...
i'm not sure
quicksort is a bad example because there are builtin functions for it
but something like that
How do you check what time you posted?
It's by your username in the bottom right corner
isn't there a date next to your profile picture in the bottom right
@Sp3000 You posted 7 hours ago
14:26
I mean to the nearest minute, not just "X hours ago", by highlighting over it seems to work
mouse over the answer
where it says X time ago
how about a modification of this where you start with fizzbuzz

and there are two goals: a. to turn it into A b. to turn it into B

and two teams - team A want to make program A etc

the first answer is by team A
the second is by B
they alternate
until one of the objectives is achieved
winner=team whose objective is achieved
accepted answer= the one which achieved the objective
(definitely ban comments there)
Sounds like a fun thing to do in chat :P
Faster responses
but if the original evolution challenge works on the main site then we could do it there
maybe there could be something with a time limit - "if team A doesn't produce an answer within 4 hours of the previous one, they are out"
i like the idea of making things more real-time though
@Sp3000 You can go for another one now
14:38
how much attention does a hard question get on PCG
because it's pretty stupid to post an answer, go to bed, next morning well you lost
depends how hard. really hard ones tend to have 0-2 answers
i posted one on GPS
it got 1 answer
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Q: GPS: Golfed Positioning System

professorfishYour mission, should you choose to accept it, is to write code for a GPS receiver. Input The current time, as nanoseconds from the Unix epoch. [EDIT: This is optional, please state whether you require it] Four satellite signals, in the following format: The time the signal was sent, as nanose...

Yeah. With Be an Epideimiologist, for a long time there was only one
@BetaDecay Thanks - might take a while though
look around here:
there are only 41 unanswered questions
And Organise a Student Timetable only had an answer just as the bounty was ending
14:52
I have a question about this question: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/40376/… would cshell be considered a different language than bash?
I think you could go from a#="*#[.>]trac": "@Hello World!
to
#="*#[.>]trac": "
echo Hello World!
-a =1, + newline = 2, + echo = 6, replace @ with space = 7
:/ I can't loop in Fish from the current one, oh well
@pimgd do you think that would that count as a different language than bash? I feel like shell scripting languages are really similar in syntax
well how is cshell different from bash
I don't really know the differences that well which is why I'm asking here haha
15:05
I had a similar idea, but in zsh.
Someone's used H9+... At least we've got that out of the way
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A: Evolution of "Hello World!" (testing new type of challenge)

MegaTomAnswer 33 - H9+ Distance 7 from Answer 33 "*#[.>]trac": "@Hello"+" World!"

A quine version of this challenge would be good.
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H9+ prints the wrong thing though :/
15:26
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A: Evolution of "Hello World!" (testing new type of challenge)

user23013Answer 34 - Zsh ah="*#[.>]trac":;<<@ Hello World! @ Distance: 7 from Answer 33.

I get distance 6 for that answer
because I'm stupid
a#="*#[.>]trac": "@Hello World!

a#="*#[.>]trac":;"@Hello World!

a#="*#[.>]trac":;<@Hello World!

a#="*#[.>]trac":;<<@Hello World!

a#="*#[.>]trac":;<<@
Hello World!

a#="*#[.>]trac":;<<@
Hello World!
@

ah="*#[.>]trac":;<<@
Hello World!
@
or...
Yeah, that's 6 right?
The newline after !?
that's it
see told you I'm stupid
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A: Evolution of "Hello World!" (testing new type of challenge)

DennisAnswer 35 - Dash ah="*#[.>]trac":;cat<<@ Hello World! @ Distance 3 from answer 34.

Are we picking up the pace again =D
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A: Evolution of "Hello World!" (testing new type of challenge)

magnetometerAnswer 36 - batch ::ah="*#[.>]trac":;cat<<@ echo Hello World! @ Distance: 7 from the previous answer. :: adds a comment and @ suppresses console output of any command that follows it, thus it doesn't do anything here.

=D they're getting longer and longer
15:43
I'm pretty determined to get Fish in at some point, so this is good :D
Script file/ command line
I think that's the distinction being made
run it on the command line it works
run it in a script it fails
16:40
Wow, it's hard now...
Nothing seems to fit
 
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18:09
Oops, I'm late to the party
This seems like a fun challenge, and all of my "home" languages are taken :p (well, most of them at least)
Sorry for the changes, but I just emptied all deleted answers to clear up some space and stop others from stealing early posted answers
(well, to some extent)
18:43
Someone please get rid of the a#="trac":; stuff :/
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Q: -ENDED- Do something that looks like something else

OltarusWrite a snippet, a function, a programm, ... that is obfuscated in a way that it looks clear at the first sight that it does something else. For example: write a bit of code that adds two number, but when you ask someone "what does it do?", he will tell you it prints "Hello, World!". Rules Th...

the Racket answer is invalid :/
that is a chaling that may do well converted into this format
19:02
@Optimizer working on it... a few characters at a time
Though I guess arguably my braces made it worse
@nyuszika7h you should've used the remaining edit to remove one of the special characters in the first line
hmm I can do that real quick maybe
Should be fine
Nice
Hmm. The problem is that people prepend new comment symbols instead of replacing the old ones, even though the cost is the same
Like how Timtech just prepended ::
19:29
New idea: instead of erasing characters in the first line, replace them with something meaningful. For instance, building up a #include in the first line for a future C answer
Just tossing my two cents in as someone who isn't a regular, but does pop by from time to time.
#include doesn't sound particularly useful, you don't need stdio.h for the program to compile
This question was a lot of fun. Challenging, but not impossible. The "real time" aspect of the question makes it interesting.
I'd be interested in other versions of this kind of challenge in the future.
@nyuszika7h hm, right. But, something like an import for a future Java answer (heh, good luck) then
that or \typeout{ for TeX
19:39
Yeah
I can't believe this is still going o.O
It's going to be hard to add any more on-esoteric languages with how the code currently looks like..
20:01
doesn't #44 need an @echo off at the beginning?
my batch is rusty
thank goodness :p
20:14
I've written a new #44, if the batch one is validated somehow, I'll delete mine
20:26
@Stacey why not do something about the special characters with the remaining 2 edits?
Woah, ah="*#[.>]trac";cat<< is still there?
@FireFly yeah, and Nit added an extra comment character instead of removing the # too
20:42
I'm trying to make a leaderboard (for users with 2+ answers) I'm sure I'm missing a few.
I'm open to suggestions, anyone have any ideas ?
re the last two edits I have available
@nyuszika7h speak quick before someone answers next :)
@Calvin'sHobbies try the data explorer?
21:41
we're trying to remove characters from the first line, and some idiot comes by and adds extra characters "to make future answers more challenging"
I know nothin about SAS. should this be valid
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A: Evolution of "Hello World!" (testing new type of challenge)

user3490Answer 46 - SAS Distance 6 from #45 *#ah="*#[.>]trac"cat<< #&&alert; put "Hello World!";

Mig
Mig
@nyuszika7h, thank you for "idiot", what respectful you are.
@Mig I'm sorry, that's a result of me being in an IRC community for a prolonged period where things like that are usually not taken seriously. that's not to say it's your fault, because it's clearly my fault
22:04
The question has been auto protected by Community ♦️. Should it be?
If it has been when i answered, i wouldn't have been able to.
@Scimonster I advocated for that so existing users couldn't make new accounts and answer again, setting themselves up for future answers. With the rapid answer rate this hasn't really been an issue, but it doesn't hurt.
@Calvin'sHobbies It can hurt - that was my first PCG post, so i didn't have 10 rep without the association bonus.
22:20
What's up with deleting this answer
Scala is blatantly missing
Hmm things would be a lot easier if the "Hello World" was on the first line
22:37
@Calvin'sHobbies Yes it is valid; although it has to be in a data step that is default... so it's pretty legit
22:55
Can someone unprotect the question?
grc
grc
yes
@iokanuon done
@grc thanks, but it's too late now.
@Timtech Sorry about that. I wasn't sure if it was valid but I believed the other commenters that it wasn't. Go ahead and edit/resubmit.
Rapid answers are rapid, "print"'s gone again :/
23:11
@Sp3000 It currently has a princ, which I suspect is a typo.
Except the last one changed it into an echo
Is the SMT-LIBv2 one invalid? It's echo
Apparently we're doing lisps now. I wonder how long that'll last
@FireFly Cool. I haz learned something.
Since we're on the LISP train, might as well - I think my one's valid?
23:52
are there any languages we are working towards? I think I'll have some extra characters in my answer
to set something up for the future
I'd post it but it looks like Dennis's is invalid
I'm not-so-secretly gunning for ><> (Fish), so that's why I got rid of an r in trac :P
That's just me though
Someone commented that the matlab answer is invalid
Sp3000 I might be able to help!
@user23013 It can be saved by changing it to Octave
... oh but that's taken already
Scilab?
That was me. It can be saved, but you lose the Octave language late ron
23:57
I think Scilab works
Can I post a new answer 52 or should we wait for Dennis to fix it?
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