The Factory Floor - 2017-09-11

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3:41 AM

sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170907112413.htm

Planetary class has a new upgrade taking account of notions of sustainability

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10:21 AM

would you believe how much effort it is to make meringues?

10:53 AM

Is there a SE somewhere for discussing high concept/story inspiration material?

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Q: successive versions of same question with more specific of different context

This question is due to this question on Worldbuilding, but concerns a problem that I think might be encountered often. I've searched through a few relevant threads, including On editing questions and invalidating answers Challenging Questions' Premises but I don't think any of those fully a...

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@Ash Chat is your best bet.

@sphennings Thanks, also bugger, this is far from a comfortable format for me.

Mithrandir24601

@dot_Sp0T having made pavlova before, yes

11:15 AM

@Ash The problem is that "Discussions" are not a good fit for this format. All sites on the network the "primarily opinion-based" and "too broad" close reasons because the goal is to have concrete answers.

@Mithrandir24601 Even cooked the sugar with some water to get a sirup - working with 118C sugarwater is no fun

@Secespitus Yeah fair enough, the word discussion wasn't quite right but it would have the same issues regardless.

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11:40 AM

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Q: Which takes presidence the absolute value of the speed of light or Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle?

What the relationship is between the absolute nature of the speed of light and the indeterminate nature of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle? If an object is moving at very near to the speed of light, does the uncertainty principle impose any “fuzziness” on the consistency of the speed of light...

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Mithrandir24601

1:00 PM

@dot_Sp0T can't be worse than making caramel, right? :P

@Mithrandir24601 caramel is burnt sugar - you must not burn it or you can start again

@DaaaahWhoosh Hey you.

Mithrandir24601

@dot_Sp0T yeah, but caramel is sugar that's only just burnt to a very specific point and it has to be taken off the heat (unless you've got a fancy system or something) at a specific point before it's actually burnt, so it's quite hard...

sugar sirup is 3 spoons sugar with 1 spoon water (scale up to the amount you need), cooked up to somewhere between 110 and 120 C. just before it would brown

it's terrible

1:15 PM

You guys are making me hungry.

@Secespitus give me an address and I'll post you a bunch

@dot_Sp0T Yeah, posting my address in an open chat room is definitely the best idea of the day.

@Secespitus uhm, could've just exchanged skype or something. Or email. or a throwaway chat on another site

e.g. create a hand full of throwaway email addresses and chats and then send parts of the address with each channel

"somewhere between 110 and 120 C" is incredibly specific. Didn't know it was that difficult

maybe use a dead-drop

Mithrandir24601

1:18 PM

@dot_Sp0T yeah, sounds oddly like making caramel :) Enjoy! :P

I'm glad for each meringue I can send to someone. Can't eat too many myself and got 2 trays of them

@dot_Sp0T Why did you make them if you can't eat them all?

@Secespitus because I really wanted to make some

Also baking is oddly relaxing

and I need to practice more with hot sugar and eggwhites

Mithrandir24601

@dot_Sp0T so true. Even when it's caramel :)

@dot_Sp0T Baking something is not only relaxing, but delicious

Mithrandir24601

1:21 PM

@Secespitus :o You cannibal!

So again: Anyone interested in getting some of the produce just find a way to provide me with an address to send it to

@Mithrandir24601 But is it "Cair-ah-mell" or "Cahr-mell?"

@Mithrandir24601 :D Damn, typo of the day

Mithrandir24601

@dot_Sp0T If you ship to the UK, I would, only I can't have egg :/

@Secespitus I should have left that comment until after the edit window

@NexTerren The first one, obviously

@Mithrandir24601 It was close. That would be a very weird message to find in the star board on the right for others.

Mithrandir24601

1:24 PM

@Secespitus Welcome to Worldbuilding!

@Mithrandir24601 Now I wonder whether I could make a question on the main site about that...

Hail glarnak

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But I don't think I would want to read that...

Mithrandir24601

@Secespitus I'm sure at least one already exists...

Future Historian

I am back......

And so far, I need a set of rules for the air and naval battles (which will be simulated per the story).

@DaaaahWhoosh?

Any rules for air and combat simulations?

Just for the really plot-essential air and naval engagements?

1:36 PM

I'm out

Future Historian

sighs

I will take that as a "no".

As in leaving, or not doing air and combat simulations? :P

Future Historian

^

And NOTE: I just need some rules for these simulations to set up dice rolls.

Alright?

Now, since the first draft, I need a way to kick off the book, especially since I am starting work on the prologue from a post-War point of view.

Setup an attack value (+0 to +5) for vs fast, vs long range, vs large target, vs heavily armored, vs air, vs sea, vs under water, vs land, and vs troops.

Give each unit a defense of "attacked by fast," "attacked at long rage" etc.

Give each unit a rough health, 1-10.

Give each unit a rough range (blocks, maybe make each block a mile? Less?). Position forces.

Figure out a "turn order," roughly. Add in random.

Each unit attacks by rolling the most appropriate two checks. Each unit defends by countering with the two corresponding checks. The difference between the two are the damage value…

For the dice you roll, roll 4DF. Fudge dice produce a bell curve.

Future Historian

So, that is for air combat and naval combat?

1:42 PM

Yep

Future Historian

Fair enough.

Aren't there RPGs that focus on war scenarios like the one described? I think I've read something on RPG.SE about old "wargames" or something like that.

Future Historian

There are, but I do not have the sets for them.

I have to make this a homegrown rule set.

Higher defense bonuses will make attacks more likely to miss. Note a +1 attack cannot damage a +5 defense.

Lower health makes combat more deadly when a hit does land.

The two rolls and fudge dice help smooth out (but not remove) the random factor.

System is roughly based around the Fate system.

Future Historian

Oh.

NOTE: I only need for air and naval combat.

I already have the ground combat operations set up in place.

1:52 PM

If you want to really fast have an estimate: I like the Cats of Catthulhu approach. For each fighter on the team you favour throw two dice - on 3, 4, 5 or 6 it's a plus and on 1 or 2 it's a minus. Two Plus mean you accomplished your goal. One Plus means you accomplished your goal, but something negative happened. Two Minus means you failed.

@NexTerren hey. Oh, by the way, I have bad news

Future Historian

Why that approach anyway?

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@DaaaahWhoosh.

@FutureHistorian !

@DaaaahWhoosh ?

@Secespitus ,

1:56 PM

@DaaaahWhoosh ;

Future Historian

So, I am wondering something.

@FutureHistorian ?

Future Historian

The book is going to be written from the perspective of a young adult born after the War, which is a compilation of interviews, recovered historical records, such as audio logs, documents, memos, diaries, etc.

Mithrandir24601

Nt gn!

Future Historian

And I am thinking: since his father was born before the War, how would the narrator know any of the pre-War luxuries if he was born after the war?

1:59 PM

@FutureHistorian Told about them. Seen documentaries.

Future Historian

And NOTE: He actually lives in the Oceanian Commonwealth, along with his father, whom was alive when the ICBMs launch.

How would someone from the Southern Hemisphere born into the post-War world be aware of the pre-War luxuries compared to someone born after World War III in the Northern Hemisphere?

And the book in-setting is published in an alternate 2017.

@dot_Sp0T Hail Glarnak

Hows it goin all

@James ave

@James The Snorter of Beverages has come down to us mortals!

How does it feel to have a diamond?

James in the Sky with Diamonds

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Mithrandir24601

2:07 PM

@James t's gng wll, xcpt 'v lst th blty t typ vwls gn

@Secespitus Its like having the power to shoot fireballs out of my fingers tips...and not doing it.

Mithrandir24601

Thnks

so...you know, good and bad

@Mithrandir24601 How often does that happen to you that you can say "again" (or your equivalent of that word)?

Mithrandir24601

@Secespitus ths s he scnd tm

2:08 PM

@Mithrandir24601 You should really see a doctor about that...

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Mithrandir24601

:o tcrrct! :)

Future Historian

So, question: someone from the Oceanian Commonwealth would have how much access to pre-War luxuries?

@Mithrandir24601 You can use vowels in faces but not words?

@FutureHistorian Not a lot.

Mithrandir24601

@Bellerophon tcrrct dd t fr m! :)

Future Historian

2:10 PM

Like.....say for example: an automobile, a really expensive house, a telly, radio or the like?

@James if you need help: github.com/dotSp0T/ncdr

Future Historian

And besides, this is in the Southern Hemisphere, since New Zealand leads the Commonwealth, though Australia is still standing (mostly).

And Australia is the only nation in the Southern Hemisphere to have nuclear warheads detonate in its face.

Mithrandir24601

@Bellerophon r myb t's psychlgcl prom?

@Mithrandir24601 Prom?

Did you mean prblm?

Future Historian

And only because NATO submarine bases.

Mithrandir24601

2:12 PM

@Bellerophon bh! tcrrct! Prblm

Future Historian

So, how would someone native to New Zealand born after the war have access to pre-War luxuries, if at all?

Say a telly, an automobile, an expensive house, etc.?

@Mithrandir24601 I'm studying psychology. Give me two years and I'll cure you.

@FutureHistorian After the war this would only be available to the wealthy people, not for normal people.

Mithrandir24601

@Bellerophon tht mght b sfl, bt ths s gd fn :P

Future Historian

So, basically, our narrator would have to be very wealthy to afford all this, even though his father and uncle were able to travel to the nuclear-ravaged Northern Hemisphere to gather the interviews and written records this novel is composed of?

2:14 PM

Time to confront my first Dragon

@dot_Sp0T Kill it! With fire!

Actually the Royal elfroot is way moe impo

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

Okay I've had this sentence sitting at the top of a blank page for over a decade without getting anywhere with it, I don't think it will work well here but hey you don't know if you don't ask, the question is simple: Does knowing prevent you from believing?

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Future Historian

3:55 PM

Back.

So, as I was trying to say: how does one from the Southern Hemisphere afford a trip to the regions north of the equator?

Especially with most infrastructure, communications, transportation and the like knocked out in nuclear fire?

How long are they willing to spend travelling?

Future Historian

Well, enough that they can make some interviews with people who fought in the conventional stage of WWIII and some of the survivors from the nuclear exchange old enough to even remember the exchange, recover historical records such as diaries, memos, documents and the like, and finally, ensure that those can be compiled into a WWZ-style novel by the time this alternate 2017 kicks in.

@FutureHistorian No, I meant, how long do you want them to take reaching the North.

Future Historian

Oh..........

Well, to be perfectly clear, that depends on how many harbours and airports are still intact to get from New Zealand all the way to North America and Europe in the first place.

If all infrastructure is gone they are best sailing. Assuming they can sail constantly including overnight it would take somewhere between 30 and 60 days.

Future Historian

4:05 PM

Not all of it, per se.

That's between New Zealand and the USA.

Future Historian

Oh.

Well, I have to say that I want to get to North America from Wellington to Central America to North America or Europe.

Is the air safe?

Future Historian

Well, some airlines are still functioning.

Though finding a surviving airport in either North America (aka: the States and Canada) or Europe is difficult.

They could just land on a road.

I assume there won't be many cars.

Future Historian

4:08 PM

Agreed, but they better have enough to get back to New Zealand when they are done.

@FutureHistorian Sure.

How many people are going?

Future Historian

The narrator's father and uncle are travelling to the nuclear-ravaged Northern Hemisphere to collect historical records, interview people who remember their experiences of the war, some of which actually fought in the conventional stage of the conflict, and recover written records, as well as any other information of historical value.

@FutureHistorian So two people. Plus a pilot. Will they buy food over there?

Future Historian

Probably, in addition to extra storage.

And they might also bring in some guns and ammunition in case of anyone trying to steal from them or something.

And purchased from East Texas, which is an ally of the New Confederacy.

And they have to go from there to Auckland, to Santiago in Chile to Panama and then land in some random spot near a major city what used to be Texas, but not inside the city (because radiation).

Now, @Bellerophon? How long would a flight take from Wellington, to Auckland to Santiago, to Panama City to Texas with a 1970s commercial plane?

@FutureHistorian One minute. i'm trying to work something out.

Future Historian

4:16 PM

Oh.

And I am going with a Boing 373-200, even though most of them should be out of commission due to the fact that the Middle East and Africa have both collapsed into chaos.

I can't find anything on that plane.

There's a lot on 737s but not 373s.

Oh, and do you want imperial or metric units?

Future Historian

Oh, metric.

And I meant to say ""737".

Oops.

:(

So, how many pitstops would the Boeing 737-200 need to take before arriving in either North America or Europe?

Not including taxi times and take off/landings it takes 30 mins Wellington to Auckland, 10 hrs 45 mins Auckland to Santiago, 5 hrs 20 mins Santiago to Panama City and 3 hrs Panama City to Houston, Texas. So a roughly 19 hours and 35 mins flight time.

Future Historian

Assuming that it is just these two.

Plus the pilot.

Still, I think we might need some refueling.

Stops wise I don't know.

At max payload it can go 2960 km.

Future Historian

4:29 PM

And with just a pilot and two passengers?

No idea.

Future Historian

Well, hopefully, not that much refueling necessary.

I mean. You are carrying roughly 50 times fewer people.

That's got to up the range a bit.

But you plan to do a 9900km journey across water at one point so I don't know if the range would be high enough.

Future Historian

Agreed.

So, we might need to refuel at least once.

Unfortunately it is over open ocean.

Future Historian

4:38 PM

So, we might need a tanker.

Either that or find an alternate route.

The only other way would be to head North. Over Asia then across to the USA.

Or down to Antarctica if you can refuel there.

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Future Historian

6:03 PM

Hmmmmm.

I wonder how much longer Verdun would need to last to allow a victory (albeit a costly one).

Anyone know a good design for a pilots helmet for a space combat pilot?

Future Historian

No idea, but you could come up with one.

@Bellerophon what is your goal?

Future Historian

And what kind of pilot are we referring to?

Spacecraft pilot (for a capital spacecraft) or a "fighter" pilot?

A pilot who flies a quick, recon spaceship.

I'm trying to work out his combat suit.

Future Historian

6:09 PM

First off.....I need to know specifications for the spacecraft itself.

@Bellerophon I mean 'goal' regarding aestethic of the pilot and piece

Future Historian

And I am thinking of a somewhat more sleek version of NASA's launch suit.

@dot_Sp0T Near-ish future.

Future Historian

The orange-ish one, but more sleek.

With a sort of fairly wealthy kind off feel to the suit.

As in it is one of the richer millitaries.

Future Historian

6:10 PM

@Bellerophon? Any specifications on the spacecraft?

@Bellerophon Well then you'd probably cross current-ish spacesuits with jet-pilot-suits. I personally like the version they used in the new PREY game: google.ch/…

Future Historian

And why reconnaissance? Is there a reason that drones are not doing that?

@Bellerophon.

I am also wondering about the specifications for the spacecraft.

Anything on basic defences, main propulsion method, RCS thrusters, etc.?

Yes. Drones are used for long range reconnaissance, looking at a new planet etc. The piloted ships are more for analysis. Looking at formations and stuff but they are needed in real-time and there is no FTL communication.

Future Historian

FTL travel is a no-go as well?

Or is that a no-go?

No FTL.

Future Historian

6:13 PM

So, STL only?

@FutureHistorian Yes.

Future Historian

:D

Alas I do not like the helmet itself. There's this amazing helmet in Lost in Space. Or at least the idea behind it is amazing. I would personally try to create something akin to that or to the one from Dead Space. At least in term from functionality of having a shield whatever close over it

Future Historian

Finally someone who prefers some #SCIENCE!

:D

@FutureHistorian honestly that remark seems silly. FTL is not any less #SCIENCE than STL.

Future Historian

6:15 PM

Also, NOTE: you should perhaps consider adding in some basic defences as a precaution.

@dot_Sp0T I like the Lost in Space one.

Future Historian

I just meant as in: hard science = :D

@Bellerophon you'd still have more bulk I'd say. But having some shielding layered on top always makes everything cooler

Future Historian

Just for a precaution, @Bellerophon, any weapons that thing has?

Also, I need propulsion system, life support capacity, etc.

@FutureHistorian hard science or not. Science is only a term we use to describe a collective of models people have created based on observations they made and did not yet manage to prove wrong

Future Historian

6:17 PM

True.

Now, back to figuring out the design specifications for that scout craft.

@FutureHistorian It is fully life supportable as in he only needs the suit if he is in combat in case of a hull breach. It has fairly weak kinetic weaponry and I think nuclear propulsion.

Future Historian

What kind?

NTR Solid Core? NTR Liquid Core? NTR Gas Core? Nuclear Pulse Fission? Nuclear Pulse Fusion? What?

I need to check that. I think the long range ships use liquid core. Need to check on the scout ships.

Future Historian

NOTE: Did you consider Project: Orion as a basis or is that still illegal (per our timeline)?

Mithrandir24601

@dot_Sp0T the difference is that FTL is sci-fi and not hard science as we don't yet have a way that works given the energy resources we have

Future Historian

6:20 PM

Well, FTL is technically soft science fiction/science fantasy.

Mithrandir24601

However, if you magic that bit away, then yes, FTL is hard science :) (Currently anyway)

Future Historian

Firm science fiction has FTL as well, but it also has a set of constraints, rules and limitations.

@Mithrandir24601 indeed, finally someone that #GETSIT!

@FutureHistorian I'm more going fore fusion powered rockets than Orion type stuff. I think that would probably have been around earlier on and may still be used in slightly dodgy cheap industrial ships.

Future Historian

Still, if you do NOT magic that bit away, then you have a problem with FTL.

6:21 PM

@Bellerophon had a quick google and found these few to please me (aka I'll put them into my map of inspirations): egosoft.com/x/xnews/gfx/22_concept_terran_helmet.jpg , badasshelmetstore.com/wp-content/uploads/walteriffic-helmet.png , pre13.deviantart.net/903c/th/pre/i/2014/200/6/8/…

Future Historian

Hence my reluctance to add in FTL in any science fiction settings I have, and if I DO add FTL, I try to make it expensive, because cheap FTL is a nightmare if you account for the Fermi Paradox.

sigh

@dot_Sp0T Thanks.

Future Historian

@Bellerophon? What do you have for the setting anyway?

is interested

I want to see how I can use this to compare with the Planetverse (aka: the main fictional universe I am working on, which is unrelated to 1973: Al-Qaiyama).

The fact that you need to create numerous future technologies that only have slight bases in current-day tech only to get enough ships and people into space that FTL would become a topic often makes FTL less of a magic-issue

Future Historian

6:23 PM

The only thing both projects have in common is an alternate history background.

For example: Planetverse managed to have the USSR reach the Moon first, which prolongs the Space Race as a result, jump-starting technological progress in the aerospace field, while also having this timeline's 2017 seem a bit more....early 2020s - mid 2020s technologically speaking.

So far not much. The Solar System is colonised and trade ships travel between stationary satellites which sit somewhere near a planet or bases orbit. Pirates rob some of the ships taking advantage of a conflict between a major military and a small mercenary type fleet.

Future Historian

Well, Planetverse also focuses on the Solar System in a span of 600 years (with plans to expand to the Black Hole Era of the Universe).

@Bellerophon sounds like a somewhat future of the scifi setting I am using for a game I try to make ^^,

That's the general background. I haven't got that far in.

@dot_Sp0T Great minds think alike.

Future Historian

However, unlike your early Solar System, I had detailed explanations into the Extraplanetary Wars, so the Solar System is more developed in the Planetverse than your setting.

And the Extraplanetary Wars were two conflicts that raged in the late 23rd Century and mid-24th Century respectively.

6:28 PM

@Bellerophon Indeed. I once spent an entire afternoon creating a system of measuring time and happened to create a bunch of small stories and tidbits in turn (e.g. the first station at earth-luna-l1 having 3 shifts of workers. Thus the time being measured in a 24h fashion as well as in an 8h fashion annotated with the name of the shift

Future Historian

And the second made WWII suddenly look like the Falklands War in comparison.

And now I start realizing that I didn't really think about these shifts making a lot of sense as i based them on the portion of earth that has their dailight/business-hours during the shift.

I don't want to make that a question on the main because it seems to be a yes/no thing: If I have an object at the earth/moon-L1, does the object stay relatively put during a full rotation of earth?

Future Historian

And NOTE: The setting's current year is 2600 CE, or in the Tranquility Calendar featured in Orion's Arm (also featured in this setting). Faraday 25, 631 AT (After Tranquility), Virgo 22, 536 of the Darian Calendar, which is more commonly used among Martians and a few Belter colonies, while the Tranquility Calendar is more prominent on the Moon and most Belter settlements. The Gregorian Calendar is still prominently used by the few pockets of civilisation left on Earth + the Outer Sol colonies.

To be specific, the "present day" is the 1st of January of 2600 CE.

@dot_Sp0T? Is that reasonable?

That Martians and a few Belters use the Darian Calendar, the Tranquility Calendar being used on the Moon (now occupied by the Martian nations and most Belter colonies), and Outer Sol still using the Gregorian Calendar?

Am I the only one that doesn't see a question asking about singular mountains? Like, can they form without volcanism?

Future Historian

Because I was wondering about the calendars affecting lifestyle on the colonies.

6:37 PM

@James I can't remember one. But I don't think they can

Future Historian

Or should I say....the young interplanetary nations that have emerged since the Second Extraplanetary War?

@dot_Sp0T Neither do i, hence the question.

@James put it on the site then! I don't think anyone will dare downvoting it or even think of a vtc

Future Historian

@dot_Sp0T? You are aware of the Tranquility and Darian calendars, correct?

Because just to let you know: these are ACTUAL calendars.

@FutureHistorian I am sorry, but I don't really care

Future Historian

6:39 PM

:(

Fine. I will see if Bellephoron can help out.

I do want to know how timekeeping can affect the lifestyles on the colonies.

Timekeeping as such greatly affects how you perceive the world around you. E.g. the format (24h vs 2 x 12h for example) affects how you plan your day; the latter being prone to cutting your day into 2 halves.

Future Historian

So, how would Martian lifestyle be like compared to their Gaian counterparts?

Would the calendar not end up hopelessley out of date after a few months?

Future Historian

Which one?

The Tranquility Calendar or the Darian one?

Is volcanism a word?

6:42 PM

Same goes for things such as history, etc. E.g. having a calendar that starts as a certain event makes this event way more known and important to the people using the calendar.

@James sounds like a swear if you ask me - but honestly, you shouldn't ask me

Nevermind the internet says it is.

@FutureHistorian Gregorian

Future Historian

Oh.

On the Outer Solar System?

Well, it would have the wrong length years.

I'm off know. See you all in about half an hour.

Future Historian

Well, technically, they are using Earth's calendar to cope with the fact that Europa, Ganymede, Callisto, Titan, Hyperion, Mimas, Iapetus, Rhea, etc. all have years spanning weeks.

For example: a local Titan year is 16 days.

6:46 PM

I also went the direction I did with all the fancy timekeeping because i wanted to have subjective and absolute time a thing that influences gameplay and brings confusio

If anyone wants to delve into my mind. Here's the doc I wrote on the time stuff when I was working on it the last time: docs.google.com/document/d/…

Future Historian

So, I started with the first permanent settlement on Mars around the 18th of September of 2042 CE or in the Darian Calendar, 22nd of Rishabha of Year 230, or in simple terms, Vanguard Day, named after the first Martian settlement. In the meantime, the 5th of Saggitarius 201 or 5th of April of 1987 CE is known as Dunbar Day to the Martians, named after the first human to walk on Mars, whom is a real person in our timeline. In this timeline, she is the first human on Mars.

The first semi-permanent outpost was established on the 14th of February of 2017 or the 7th of Tula of 216, which is basically known as Humanity Outpost.

Not sure if that should be of importance to Martians to celebrate the establishment of the first human settlements on Mars, and the landing of the first human on Mars respectively.

Now that I think about it, how would a Martian colonist's lifestyle be like in your opinions?

7:13 PM

How can we form a good opinion? Why should it be different from any of the miriads on earth?

8:11 PM

VTC privilege! Finally. And not a single Close or Reopen Review to test my new powers...

@Secespitus Careful. Use it too much and you'll go blind.

Mithrandir24601

@James make sure to heed your own advice, o diamonded one :P

@James I'll watch whether my eyes turn red the first time I use those powers :D

@Mithrandir24601 Where are you...come here and stand still so I can smite you.

@Secespitus Oh they won't glow the first time, or the time after that but once you get comfortable the power starts to weave its way into you...and before you know it...

user image

You look like this guy.

@James Wasn't that the Overlord?

8:25 PM

...I just googled evil overlord...I have no idea what the picture is from but its pretty sweet.

Mithrandir24601

@James o diamonded one: the things I ought not to do: I beg forgiveness

@James Yeah, the guy is the Overlord from the game Overlord. Those guys were pretty creative with their games title

@James It's a game that's been on my Steam Wishlist for a long time. It feels like a new edition of Dungeon Keeper.

@Green I played Overlord 2. Pretty funny game.

@Secespitus Cool :) If I ever have time for games again, I'll get it.

@James in case you were worried about it: I'd recommend looking up Dungeon Keeper 2 Mistress at home. It's borderline NSFW.

8:33 PM

@Green I thought Dungeon Keeper was closer to War for the Overworld. But I haven't played Dungeon Keeper.

@Secespitus Without having played Overlord, I'm not making a strict comparison. Just the marketing feels similar.

Weren't you building a dungeon in Dungeon Keeper? Overlord is basically just running around with his minions destroying cities.

@Green Ah, okay.

@Secespitus Yep, DK is about building a dungeon.

If you liked the gameplay I would recommend looking at War for the Overworld. If you liked the Mistress at home part Overlord might be a good idea ;)

Future Historian

I am back.......

And so far, I am still wondering about timekeeping affecting the lifestyle and culture of the Martian colonists anyway.

8:59 PM

@Green Definitely borderline

Oooh more [people

hello Sesce, Hello Green

@dot_Sp0T Are you drunk?

Anyone willing to take a shot and spare me from writing an actual question? chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39942542#39942542

@Secespitus no. Should I be?

@dot_Sp0T Maybe :D

@Secespitus I'd need something stronger than German beer then though :/

9:06 PM

@dot_Sp0T Belgian beer is the only acceptable beer

@Secespitus good boy!

@dot_Sp0T Make it a general question like "Where to place stuff so it stays relatively put during a full rotation of earth?"

Then you don't have the yes/no question and will still get your yes/no answer.

@Secespitus that's always a possibility :/

@dot_Sp0T Hey, being Captain Obvious is not easy :D

Anyway, good luck with that question. I gotta go.

@Secespitus And you're probably getting those VTC reviews you desperately wanted

@Secespitus stay 10 more minutes and you will sleep better

9:09 PM

@dot_Sp0T Yeah, I can finally VTC stuff directly instead of sending all those questions to you guys for reviewing.

@Secespitus it's up - And I even managed to smuggle in some lore and a link. I am not too content but it will have to do.

@dot_Sp0T hi!

@dot_Sp0T ...I barely have the motivation to post my own questions, let alone someone else's.

Quit trying to infringe upon my laziness.

@James what?

@dot_Sp0T Its not that far back, you can figure it out yourself.

9:20 PM

@James are you talking about you not having posted your anti-volcano question yet? - No can't be you wrote taht

@dot_Sp0T I already posted that.

16 mins ago, by dot_Sp0T

Anyone willing to take a shot and spare me from writing an actual question? https://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/39942542#39942542

@dot_Sp0T Good boy

I'm sorry I really don't get it James....

I feel stupid now.

More stupid than other days...

Oh dear god, I got it.

I might be tired.

9:37 PM

I am going to prescribe a nap that is at least 90 minutes long. If your nap lasts longer than 3 hours, contact a physician.

it.s 23:37 here. i think more than 3 hours is the norm :)

@Secespitus I think that would be along your preferences. Go wild when you see it in the morning!!!

o/

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