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11:14 AM
They took my hats away... Waaaahhhh.....
 
11:33 AM
@Pᴇᴛᴇ ah hah! But not mine! <--- #modabuse
 
 
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3:14 PM
hmm, there's a user named 'guest' who's giving one-line answers that are mostly jokes. Does anyone know where we store those pre-baked comments for such users?
 
just flag em
and downvote
 
yeah, but that doesn't help the user learn
it just makes them leave
 
3:28 PM
also, there's a user named Frezzley who's asked two questions about spies, both of which have been closed. I think maybe one of them can be reopened, or at least that they shouldn't be closed for being too story-based
if their main question is 'what qualities make for a good spy?' I think that is definitely on-topic and answerable
 
I've always found the "story based" closure reason a little odd. Building a world is all part of telling the story anyway...
 
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Espionage

Proposed Q&A site for spies, spymasters, people interested in the world of espionage.

Currently in definition.

 
@Pᴇᴛᴇ yeah, but that's the point. We're not here to give them the plot of their novel, we're here to give them the tools they can use to write it themselves
if you're asking what your characters will do next, that's not going to help you with the step after that. Asking about the mindset of your characters given their environment should help you get them out of any situation
 
@JourneymanGeek That's funny. What kinds of questions would you get there that can be answered in a reasonable way? I feel like all the questions there would have implicit , equivalent tags.
o/ @HDE226868
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Welcome to the world of a mod. Thanks for the heads-up, by the way - I dealt with his other post.
He'll hit some sort of roadblock eventually.
@Green Hi there!
 
3:37 PM
@Green beats me
someome mentioned it elsewhere and it seems amusing enough
 
@HDE226868 Your time travel question has stuck with me. I keep having new ideas about how the second and third order effects would play out.
 
Green beats me as well. Apparently, I'm not very good at matching his socks after I've washed them...
 
@Green I'd still love to hear about them. My own attempts have not been so good.
 
@Pᴇᴛᴇ ........I can't even make a "DAMN RIGHT! THEY BETTER MATCH!" joke. I just can't.
@HDE226868 If it's okay with you, I'll just ping you in chat when I make substantial changes.
 
@Green Sure.
I'll be here all of today, EST. Tomorrow I'm chaperoning my old high school's first Science Olympiad tournament, which should be interesting, so I'll be out.
 
3:41 PM
aww, I just realized the MathCounts people haven't asked me to grade tests this year
I wonder why not, that was a good time
 
Hello.
 
@JourneymanGeek Well, that's my five question contribution to the cause.
@MarkGardner Hey
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Espionage

Proposed Q&A site for spies, spymasters, people interested in the world of espionage.

Currently in definition.

 
I highly doubt that amateur spies are going to be asking questions on a public site
but hopefully it gets greenlit so that WB isn't the shadiest site on the stack
'shadiest' as in 'most shady'. For some reason, it looks like it's spelled wrong.
'shadiest' looks like it should be pronounced 'sha-deest', and is the name of some sort of desert assassin
 
Not "shaddiest" then, to rhyme with "baddiest"?
 
3:55 PM
I don't even know
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Agreed. It seems the kind of place where no one who actually knows would answer or the information will be so old that's not much use in a modern intelligence environment. Kind of like how the Spy Museum in Washington D.C. has lots of info but it's terribly terribly old.
 
Maybe there's a call for an espionage/intelligence writers. But then again, why is WB restricted to Fantasy/Sci-Fi?
 
yeah, I mean I guess that kinda information is still cool to have, but they could probably just ask on History
@Pᴇᴛᴇ it's not, but with such a broad scope sometimes it's good to pass off a question to somewhere else
 
4:44 PM
by the way, does anyone here know Arabic?
 
Has anyone here considered making a Doctor Who "crack in the wall" wall hanging for themselves or think that doing so would be very very cool?
(Fezes are cool too.)
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I've just heard two people ask that in about five minutes.
 
@Bellerophon did the other guy get a 'yes'?
 
I don't think so.
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I have two friends who do but I don't.
 
4:48 PM
I just need to know if 'shadiest' is a real word, and if so if I can still use it for the name of a group of assassins
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ask google, keeper of all knowledge and falsehood.
 
@MarkGardner yeah, but I don't know how to spell it
especially not in Arabic
 
use the speech interpreter thing
 
hmm, maybe, but I'm currently at work
 
@DaaaahWhoosh الأكثر شادي
I translated "most shady" though shady doesn't probably translate properly.
معظم خادعة
That's probably better. Translated from "most deceptive".
 
4:55 PM
@Green oh, no, I mean if there's a word in Arabic that sounds like shadiest, not that means shadiest
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Oh, I have no idea. Ha! Sorry.
 
nah, it's fine, I'm in the same boat.
I was going to try to learn the Arabic alphabet so I could type it into Google Translate, but man, the Arabic alphabet is hard
it also kinda looks like tengwar
 
what is tengwar?
 
cool
 
5:27 PM
I'm thinking regardless of if I can call them the 'Shadiest', I'm gonna make a group of mercenaries in my sci-fi world that are like Dune's Fremen but with those invisibility cloaks from Ghost in the Shell
I'm thinking they were left on a planet that quickly became inhospitable, so for generations they learned to live in the harshest of environments, fighting with each other to survive. Until one day one man gathered all the tribes together, and they rediscovered how to make space ships.
 
5:52 PM
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Q: Bug in the pinned Blog links on the sidebar

TylerHThis morning I saw the link on the sidebar to the pinned blog post, "Calculating Political Power", which I thought was interesting, so I clicked on it. However, it took me to the Stop Saying Rivers Only Converge, instead. Even when I try to type in the URL or copy the location for the political p...

 
6:04 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh How did they maintain the baseline technology level to quickly rediscover how to build space ships?
This sounds like the prologue of the first Homeworld game.
 
@Green well... I guess maybe everyone kept some baseline technology active, whatever they had enough knowledge and parts to maintain, and then maybe only once they got together did they have enough combined knowledge to put things together into a space-worthy vessel
plus, maybe there was just a super-advanced city that was buried in a sandstorm, there's plenty of automated technology there but it takes a monumental effort to get to it
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Something like a unified world with 1930's era technology? It's only a two decades step from simple rockets to orbital satelites.
 
@Green I was thinking originally something like 22nd century tech, then after the apocalyptic event there'd be something like seventeenth-century tech with a few exceptions
most of the modern infrastructure would've been lost, but some stuff that was built for such scenarios could've survived
the problem would be that everyone who had advanced technology wouldn't want to lose it, so no one was willing to share, but that ended up meaning that most of what they had was useless
 
@DaaaahWhoosh So they maintained pretty advanced iron working. That's a good start. Did they preserve standards for weights and measures?
More importantly, did any libraries survive?
An example of what they might have had:
A finery forge is a hearth used to fine (i.e., produce, refine) wrought iron, through the decarburization of the pig iron. The fining process involved liquifying cast iron in a fining hearth and removing carbon from the molten cast iron through oxidation. Finery forges were used as early as 3rd century BC, based on archaeological evidence found at a site in Tieshengguo, China. The finery forge process was replaced by puddling process and the roller mill, both developed by Henry Cort in 1783-4, but not becoming widespread until after 1800. == History == A finery forge was used to refine wrought...
 
I suppose some of them could have preserved the pre-apocalypse knowledge, but I'm thinking there was widespread use of EMPs during First Contact, so there's only a few good hard drives left and not many places to plug them in
 
6:19 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh But EMPs aren't going to do anything to the nonconducting pages of university libraries.
 
well yeah, but this isn't Earth, it's a colony planet, I don't know if they'd care about printing new books
 
Sure, nukes would take out a lot of infrastructure but there are scattered libraries in places where no one would bother to nuke.
@DaaaahWhoosh Ah, I missed that important detail.
Were they a self-sustaining colony? Did you mention that and I missed it?
 
I didn't mention it, but I guess they probably would've been
it was the early stages of colonization, I don't think good trade routes would've been developed yet
 
@DaaaahWhoosh How is their population distributed? A bunch of big colonies or are there a few homesteaders?
I'm implying that the broader the civilization has spread out, the more likely that the knowledge of how to do things will have survived. Especially, if there are little largely-selfsufficient hamlets that make a lot of what they need for themselves.
 
I'm thinking there'd be hub cities where a lot of the finished goods would've come from, then smaller and smaller settlements radiating from there
so maybe some of the really remote places would've known how to handle themselves, but the intermediate villages and stuff would've been dependent on the cities
or, city. Not sure how many there would've been
as many as there were space elevators
 
6:27 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh You can get a rough estimate using a power law estimation.
There's only going to be a few giant cities but those cities will hold most of the people. It's basically the 80/20 rule applied to everything.
 
yeah, but that doesn't say how many cities there would've been, just how many there would have to be based on how many people there were in total, which I don't know
I started inventing this world literally an hour ago
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Oh, ha!
 
I guess based on the rough history of humans, they were headed for the nearest star cluster, and I don't want this planet to be there, so it was either an early settlement or had some sort of important resource
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Do you have an initial starting population and time since that population?
Is this a colony ship or a colony on a planet?
 
it's a colony on a planet
I'm thinking 2-300 years after the apocalypse they would've started back out into space, but I still haven't decided how many of them there would have been
maybe the population at the time of unification was similar to the population of the middle east during the sixth century
 
6:34 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh how many people is that?
 
lol I got no idea
I really probably do need to start putting numbers onto things, I still don't know how many human colonies there were
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I think that's reasonable.
Just keep in mind that economy is roughly related to the size of the population. While it's possible to have a big population and small economy, it's not possible to have a really small population and giant economy. Economies of scale just don't work when there aren't that many people around.
 
Pirates!
 
@James Ninjas man. They win every time.
 
@James yarr?
 
6:41 PM
So I'm working on an answer, and I'm curious about something...
 
@AndyD273 do tell...
 
I just decided to interject a random word without having read anything
 
It's for the cooling a space ship question. I have an idea about using the ships heat to turn water into steam, and then because it's more efficent at high temperatures split the steam into hydrogen and oxygen. but I'm curious what happens to the heat when it's split.
You'd have expansion, which usually means that you get cooling
 
@AndyD273 Is splitting water exothermic?
 
6:45 PM
but in a closed system the heat would just have to go somewhere...
@Green I dunno
 
making water is endothermic, does that imply that destroying it is the opposite?
 
@AndyD273 In my 30 seconds of looking, there was one guy on Yahoo Answers who said it was endothermic.
 
Water is stable so you have to add energy to break it apart
 
Which I guess makes sense. Water is a crazy stable molecule. It would take a lot of energy to break that up.
 
according to this: greenoptimistic.com/hydrogen-steam-electrolysis-20080920 it's easier to split water when it's in a high temp steam state
Less energy to put in
 
6:48 PM
@AndyD273 That's because there is already a lot of energy present
still requires the same amount of energy
 
Right, so I'm curious if the process would be heat negative in the long run if it was done in a vacuum where the heat couldn't radiate away easily
 
@AndyD273 wouldn't that violate some law of physics?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Well, if the heat energy is turned into something else, then maybe not
The energy can't be destroyed, but it can be changed, I think
 
so you're suggesting turning heat energy into chemical bonds?
or... using it to break those bonds?
 
Breaking the bonds
 
6:52 PM
and then you can use the hydrogen as fuel
 
take the heat in the water steam and break it into hydrogen and oxygen
 
@James Huh, that makes for an even more interesting cooling method.
Pump the water full of heat, have a sealed vacuum chamber near the surface. Spray the hot water out which would cause it to boil and then freeze, sticking to the walls of the chamber. Have a robot that goes around and scrapes up the frost to reclaim it... Probably still breaks physics somewhere...
 
@AndyD273 waste heat from the pumps?
waste heat from the robot?
 
well there is going to be waste heat all over the place. The system just has to be able to get rid of more heat than it builds up
 
7:00 PM
wait, where does the energy to freeze the water come from?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh If you look at that link James posted, it talks about what happens if you spray water into a vacuum (like in space). The water instantly boils, then desublimates into water crystals.
They see this happen when they vent urine from space ships
 
@AndyD273 right, but still, where does it find the energy to do that?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Steals it from the universe?
It's just a property of water; the lower the atmospheric pressure, the higher the boiling point
 
right, but like, why though?
oh, wait, so water wants to be a solid, but applying energy to it causes it to not do that. Right?
so it boils because it's working out the energy it had before going into the vacuum, then it just sticks together because that's what it wants to do
 
@DaaaahWhoosh That sounds about right
It takes less energy at lower pressures, so in a vacuum you can boil water at -67 C
 
7:09 PM
but that implies that there is initial energy as it goes into the vacuum that then disappears. If the molecules don't use it to connect to one another, where does that energy go?
 
But once the energy is used up it turns into ice crystals which stick together
 
@AndyD273 yeah, but what's it using that energy on?
 
The act of changing it's phase from liquid to gas?
So it uses the energy to perform a phase change
 
oh, okay, sure
maybe
does it also use energy to go from a gas to a solid?
 
if solid is the natural base state, it takes less energy to go back down
 
7:13 PM
I really feel like I should know this stuff more than I do
 
Like if you excite an electron by pumping energy in, it then releases that as a photon to get back down to it's base state
In quantum mechanics, an excited state of a system (such as an atom, molecule or nucleus) is any quantum state of the system that has a higher energy than the ground state (that is, more energy than the absolute minimum). Excitation is an elevation in energy level above an arbitrary baseline energy state. In physics there is a specific technical definition for energy level which is often associated with an atom being raised to an excited state. The temperature of a group of particles is indicative of the level of excitation (with the notable exception of systems that exhibit negative temperature...
It might be like that for water too...
Radiate off the energy as IR light, and then phase back into a solid
 
if that's true, then it won't work for what you want it for
 
It might, if the vacuum chamber is transparent to IR
shining out into space
 
but then the chamber would heat up
I think...
I feel so incredibly stupid right now, I hope no chemistry experts are sitting by and laughing at me
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@DaaaahWhoosh In my experience they like to chime in and let you know when you're wrong, and so since it's quiet they probably aren't watching
 
7:20 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh Unless they're saving up your mistakes to destroy you with later.
 
You only have to worry about the ones that will come along later and read back over the chat log
 
@Green in that case, for the sake of mankind I should talk at length about my lack of knowledge on cold fusion
 
With any luck this chat will be lost to history before anyone with knowledge on the subject comes along...
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@DaaaahWhoosh Please make a separate room for that discussion then include a link to it here.
 
Just for the record when you are talking about chemical standards water is a really bad choice...water does all sorts of weird stuff. It gets BIGGER when it gets cold...
 
7:23 PM
@James It could be ammonia. I know that's what they use on the space station for cooling.
Darn it, whoever stared my post... You beat me to it. I was going to do that to @DaaaahWhoosh
Oh, why not
 
@Green eh, all I was going to say is that cold fusion is when two atoms get really cold, they decide to cuddle to share body heat
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Awww isn't that sweet
 
@DaaaahWhoosh That's an excellent way to put it.
You know those times when you build up a dev environment, get it working just the way you want, finish your work with it, delete it then find out months later that your boss wants a demo based on the env tomorrow? This is one of those times.
 
@Green that sounds like one of those precious few times when you shouldn't be in a chatroom
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Pfft. :)
It's more frustration than anything else that I can't just spin up the env.
But you make a good point. See you in a bit.
 
7:37 PM
@Green good luck to you
 
7:54 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh Thanks. Editing raw XML is not my idea of a fun time.
Granted, I'll only need to do this once but still...grosss.
HA! No I don't! I saved the working copy.
And my apologies to the room for the work-log.
 
@Green whoo!
@Green in that case, I apologize for most of what I've said here
 
@Green You're assuming we were paying enough attention to you to be bothered by you
 
@DaaaahWhoosh No, you were right. Blowing time on WB chat != getting work done.
@James I'm sorry. Did you say something?
 
@Green Wonder if it would make sense to archive the env on a dvd or blueray or whatever before deleting it next time
 
8:10 PM
@Green For my response I was trying to find the clip of SNL celebrity jeopardy where "sean connery" tells a joke and the punch line is "I don't remember the rest but your mothers a wh...."
...alas it is not readily available on youtube
 
@James your mother's a whale?
 
Exactly
Also...I just pinned your starred comment :P
 
8:25 PM
D:
actually, if they provide answers to my questions and don't kill me with fluorine gas, then I guess I'm okay with it
 
@James I don't remember how it ends, but ones a sick duck, and your mother is a wh... nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/jeopardy/n11411?snl=1
 
@AndyD273 Nice work :D
 
Afternoon, Realm Constructors.
 
@James Brings back memories of when SNL was funny... *
*It may have been funny since then, but I stopped caring at some point
 
@AndyD273 That pretty much me too, with a couple small exceptions I haven't paid attention in years
 
8:37 PM
@NexTerren Hey, it is afternoon!
 
Mainly I have really enjoyed the Lonely Island Stuff
 
@James I don't know what that is
 
Random question for you guys:

If you were tasked with constructing a MP3 player of just 100 songs to survive the human (near) apocalypse, so future humans could hear our music... what artists, genres, or specific songs would you make sure that got on that MP3 player?
 
The songs Justin Timerlake did with Andy Samberg did
 
@NexTerren Darude:Sandstorm 100 times. Let the world burn.
 
8:40 PM
You don't answer to anyone, so it doesn't have to abide by what academia might say should be on there (or can, if that's your take).
@DaaaahWhoosh You are a horrible, horrible person.
 
Like D*ck in a Box, and Yolo, and I'm on a Boat, and Jack Sparrow.
 
@James Slightly worse.
 
you should really watch their videos on youtube...freaking hilarious.
 
@James I've seen two of those...
 
@James My roommate insisted on setting Lonely Island's stuff on repeat on YouTube when a friend stopped by. It was hilarious.
 
8:42 PM
I think the best way to preserve music would be to give an example of pretty much every genre. Or maybe two songs, to imply diversity. Like there's that one jazz song in 5/8 time that you have to include, but it's like the only song in 5/8 time, so they'd get confused
 
@NexTerren Every song I save would be polka or include the kazoo in some way.
 
@NexTerren I kind of want to put folk music on there - like, actual folk music, not that modern country stuff - but then I realized that I'd have to include something from every culture on Earth.
 
@HDE226868 Nah, just the important cultures
 
@HDE226868 If you tried to tackle every culture you would run the issue of "well over 100," most certainly.
 
you'd probably have to have one of those Asian songs that sounds like a mother who's just lost their only child
just in case they like that sort of thing
 
8:44 PM
@James Oh, that decision should be fun.
 
No pressure.
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I'm trying not to laugh, as I feel like laughing would make me a bad person.
 
I used to listen to some instrumental hip-hop (I think that's what it'd be called), it sampled a lot of other music, that might be the best way to cram diversity into a small space
 
@NexTerren You already are, go with the joy
We should all play Cards against humanity the next time we get together for the podcast...the game is amazing
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Instrumental hip-hop, 'eh? Haven't heard of that before.
@James My moral compass is way, way too tame for that game. :P
Maybe one of the podcasts that I sit out?
 
8:48 PM
@NexTerren yeah, I'm not sure if that's what it's called, it's like rap except without words, so the beats get to be really good
 
@NexTerren I think everyone should have to play that game...it desensitizes people and they could get over perceived insults easier
Kidding there is no way I would document a session of that game...
I am pretty sure every time people play cards against humanity at least three hate crimes are committed.
 
The bigger question is, where are you going to find a 300mb MP3 player to put these songs on
 
@James Watching people play that game makes me... sad and upset, in the same way reading about rape victims does. It's not a pleasant experience for me.
 
@AndyD273 I may have an old one laying around
Well...you may be a slightly better person than me then...
 
I mean, any good MP3 player is going to be really empty with only 100 songs
 
8:51 PM
Just for the record my favorite answer card in that game is:
 
@AndyD273 Agreed, but 100 forces you to make hard choices instead of just brainstorming anything of value that you can think of.
 
"Pooping in a laptop and closing it"
 
Because a modern MP3 player can easily have 64 GB+ of songs, which is... 10,000s of songs. Not exactly sure how many songs that is.
 
@NexTerren the weird thing is that there's, like, technically brilliant pieces of music out there, but I'd just want to include the stuff that sounds good. I wonder if that's wrong
because you're not trying to preserve the songs, but rather the idea of music
 
Right. I mean, you'd still have to make choices, but 100 is so absurdly low as to be farcical.
 
8:54 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh I'm kind of the same way. That's why I put in the "you don't answer to anyone with your list" rule in, because if the selection of music because too... accommodating, logical, and dispassionate I think the question looses something.
@AndyD273 But if you made it, say, "100,000 songs" then it becomes... again just a brainstorm, more than anything. You're not forced to make hard choices.
With 100, picking a few slots for, say, jazz, puts a clear importance on jazz.
 
@NexTerren I know. Those kinds of questions bug me because they are silly
 
maybe you have, say, three CDs upon which you can store the songs
@NexTerren I do think jazz is pretty important
 
Hmm, ok, I'll buy that. You could say one blank CD, which would be about 100 songs give or take depending on compression
 
you gotta include that one song from Cowboy Bebop
 
@DaaaahWhoosh The series, or the movie?
 
8:58 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh I'm not sure why, but "Jazz" holds the same place in my mind as "Classical." Like it's highly varied music I associate with quality, like I do "Classical" music, just in the modern (or semi-modern) musical era.
 
@AndyD273 there's a movie?!
 
yeah
 
Cowboy Bebop: The Movie, known in Japan as Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Japanese: カウボーイビバップ 天国の扉, Hepburn: Kaubōi Bibappu: Tengoku no Tobira, lit. Cowboy Bebop: Heaven's Door), is a 2001 Japanese animated space Western action film based on the 1998 anime series Cowboy Bebop created by Hajime Yatate. Multiple staff from the original series worked on the film, including director Shinichirō Watanabe, writer Keiko Nobumoto, character designer Toshihiro Kawamoto, and animation director Hiroshi Ōsaka, and composer Yoko Kanno. The original English and Japanese voice cast also reprised their...
 
9:00 PM
@AndyD273 Blows smoke off quick draw pistol
 
@NexTerren I have developed problems with classical music, mostly that it's an incredibly broad term
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Agreed, but isn't "jazz" really broad itself?
 
@NexTerren yes, probably, but less so
most genres are broad, but classical music spans centuries
I like a lot of stuff from the late 19th century onward, but before that it's much less interesting
but then there's weird stuff like monk chants, which are great but completely different than most classical music, but still end up in the same genre
 
@AndyD273 Not really. The env is defined by script. My problem was mostly that I didn't update my definition script to reflect the environment. When I wiped the disk images, those changes went away. This time I'm going to update the config scripts so I can wipe out disk images with wild abandon!
 
Hmm, if we go with the CD idea more strictly, I wonder if none of the classical music would make it on there, as they tend to be very long pieces that would take up more space.
 
9:06 PM
@NexTerren I think there's a lot of dead space in classical music, most of the good stuff is only a few minutes long
 
oh wow, just realized, you'd still have to preserve the dead space, otherwise you'd give rise to the 'where is the drop' people
 
But dead space on an MP3 wouldn't take up as much disk space... I don't think?
 
it depends on what kind of space it is
like, silence maybe not? but I'm talking about the part of a song that isn't energetic, except that it builds up your anticipation
 
Well, this one might after all
@DaaaahWhoosh Bach, readers digest version, where all the boring bits are cut out.
 
9:12 PM
@AndyD273 yeah, but I'm thinking that a lot of songs are more interesting because of the boring bits
they present more of a journey, give you a more well-rounded character
it's like a movie, you could have plot and characters and stuff or you could just have one and a half hours of fight scenes.
the fact that there is no film that is one and a half hours of fight scenes implies it wouldn't do well
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Anyone who's seen Hardcore Henry will know exactly what this looks like.
I'd say that Hardcore Henry gets really close. Or maybe, I remember the fight scenes more because they're done in the first person perspective instead of the usual third person perspective.
 
I guess it really is a matter of optimizing the ratios. Like, Tarantino movies are either action movies with way too much dialogue, or dialogue movies with way too much blood
but I think the juxtaposition makes both parts better
the dialogue is more important because people are going to live or die because of it, whereas the violence is more important because you care about the characters
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Hateful 8 is a perfect example of this.
 
aren't most Michael Bay movies just several hours of non stop fights and explosions?
 
@AndyD273 actually, I wish. I stopped watching the second one because it was wasting sooooo much time
if it was just robots fighting each other the whole movie, it probably would've been better
 
9:26 PM
I stopped watching after the first one because it didn't make much sense, and also because once the robots started fighting it was hard to tell who was who
 
yeah, so Transformers movies are basically the opposite of good action movies.
I just don't understand how you can get 'giant transforming robots are fighting each other' wrong
 
I kinda want to watch a Mech Warrior movie now
Pacific Rim was close. Just make it bigger, like galaxy spanning
 
kinda like Gurren Lagann?
 
I haven't seen that one yet. It's actually on my list though
 
it's pretty good. Except for the minor pedophilia.
 
9:33 PM
I'm thinking a real Battletech licensed live action MechWarrior movie
 
I don't know, video game movies seem to be a bad idea
 
They have been done, and some well. Most of the bad ones come from a small group of directors
 
9:51 PM
So this one is kinda cool. They are taking jelly fish cells and turning them into polariton lasers for use in quantum experiments. Yes, jelly fish lasers.
Even better than sharks with lasers...
 
but what you you call them? Jellyfasers? At least with shark lasers, you can call them shasers.
 
Well, the way they traditionally make polariton lasers is by lazing super cold bose-einstein condensate. These jellyfish lasers work at room temperature.
All righty, time to head out I think.
 
oh, that is pretty cool
or... warm
o/
 
o/
 
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10:14 PM
@DaaaahWhoosh The truth.
 
the more I think about it, the more it doesn't make sense that bad movies are bad
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ...be careful. Your logic may create a singularity that will consume the galaxy
 
it's just, they pick the coolest concepts, and fail at them
 
This is true. Transformers should have been good. But they are not. You are of course hoping that transforming sentient robots can over come the bay effect....
 
maybe that's what it is, people who make good movies don't go for the easy route
 
10:20 PM
The first time I saw pacific rim my first thought was: This is the style and feel transformers should have had.
 
yeah, that was a great movie I need to watch again
as I recall, the main theme got stuck in my head for a long time
 
@DaaaahWhoosh I watch it at least once every two weeks...or at least it is on in the background while I play games
When Gypsie Danger smacks the flying dude with the container ship...minor nerdgasm every time
Just like Théoden's speech and the subsequent horns and cavalry charge...bam. Nerdgasm
 
remind me to never sit down in any of your chairs
 
@DaaaahWhoosh But they are so firm and comfortable
...bahahaha, ok I am going to stop now
I just snorted at work.
 
Do they satisafactorily explain why the jagers need two pilots instead of just one?
That never made sense to me.
 
10:30 PM
@Green they needed more processors
 
@DaaaahWhoosh They needed more grey matter to run the jager?
 
@Green yeah... or something
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Dang, that breaks suspension of disbelief to me. I can understand a crew but I don't know of anywhere in large craft where there are two captains.
 
well, in this case it's the fact that it's, like, a neural interface? Or, wait, but they're moving too
huh
in the back of my mind, I was thinking it was a neural interface, so you needed two brains to not fry the humans, but maybe they only plug in their brains to drift...
which wouldn't make sense, because just don't do that
 
@DaaaahWhoosh Bingo. The most plausible explanation I came up with is that it makes for more drama in the cockpit.
 
10:44 PM
well yeah, there's that, for sure
 
@DaaaahWhoosh And if that's the only reason for it then, boo-urns. Suspension of disbelief goes out the window.
 
I recall they explained it in the beginning, but I can't remember what was said
SFF might have an answer
OH I FOUND IT
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ....
 
oh sorry, I'm on a meeting and someone asked me a question
it is a neural link. They move because they're neurally telling the robot what to do, which makes them do it
but you can't take too much stimulus or your brain explodes, so they split the load between two pilots
 
Meh, I don't buy it but starting an argument about technologies that don't exist isn't worth too much (although this is WB and this is what we do here....I guess it's just not worth it to me.)
 
10:56 PM
yeah, I mean in general there's no real reason to have pilots in the robots at all
it'd be better to have them in those helicopters that drop the robots off. That way your pilots stay safe and don't get killed by acceleration forces
or what is it called, jerk forces? Change of acceleration forces? When your robot falls over and you've basically fallen ten stories?
 
@DaaaahWhoosh There's ways of handling the physical challenges of dropping off a 10 story building. I can understand why having pilots in the jaegers is important (both from an engineering perspective and a story-telling perspective. I don't disagree with those.)
 
there's also the fact that giant robots are impossible
but I think we can all agree to forget that fact
 
@DaaaahWhoosh ...and that kaiju that large could collapse under their own weight....or that airbreathing creatures would stand to go that high in the atmosphere or anything coming up out of the Marianas Trench is going to have a really tough time adapting to the pressure differences.....the list goes on and on.
 
yep, so it's best to answer such questions as simply as possible
why do they need two pilots? Because one wasn't good enough
why are they using giant robots? Because normal-sized robots weren't good enough
 
@DaaaahWhoosh yeah, jerk is the rate of change of acceleration. Also, 5/8 is so... common... Don't you want that piece that alternates between 7/16 and 3/8 at random intervals (with the occasional 5/4 bar thrown in for good measure)? :P
 
11:06 PM
@Mithrandir24601 if that's a real thing, I definitely want it
 
I have played a piece like that before. It was really, really confusing
 
I have no doubts about that
 
Oooh - what about Petrushka? Different sections of the orchestra have different time signatures. At the same time
 
this seems to be something I need to learn more about
perhaps I will look into it when I get home
which reminds me, whoosh!
 

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