The Frying Pan

derobert

9:00 PM

@Mien so, you managed to get rid of Kenny here already?

Mien

Sshht, he's sleeping.

I think he just forgot about all of you.

rumtscho

@derobert is it already so hot in va that you need two ac?

Mien

:D

rumtscho

@Mien this sounds like you are a princess in one of these fantasy humor novels - maybe the gordon ones - and your guarding dragon just fell asleep.

Mien

@rumtscho Now, who wants to save me??

rumtscho

9:03 PM

@Mien don't look at me, I haven't liked princesses since I grew out of the obligatory "pink is the best thing in the world" phase

Mien

I never liked pink.

Your move.

rumtscho

Maybe it should be @hobodave? But he is probably busy now.

Why would you want to be saved, anyway.

In this kind of novel, the dragon is usually a friend of the princess.

@rfusca if you shot magnolia blossoms in daylight, would you make the light warmer (to look like a nice sunny spring), cooler (to have a better contrast between sky and magnolias) or leave it as it is?

rfusca

@rumtscho i'd probably leave it color balanced as daylight and do a local contrast boost if it needed it

i'm a fan of the colors being what they really should be

rumtscho

OK - I just noticed that it looks quite warmish already at the daylight preset

derobert

@rumtscho Well, the main AC in the building doesn't really blow any cold air into that room, unfortunately

@rumtscho its a server room that predates me being here, they just threw servers in a mechanical room :-(

rumtscho

9:09 PM

Wow, a reading off a petal is 500 K above the camera "daylight" preset

OK, so the petals are slightly pink, not pure white. But still.

derobert

@Mien Ya' know, before you go adventuring, you should gather the proper supplies. Like a good climbing rope. So you could save yourself.

rfusca

pic?

rumtscho

of the magnolia?

derobert

/me takes note of @Mien's dislike of pink, sends word to mushrooms everywhere to play with pink sharpies for Mien protection.

Mien

I've never eaten a pink mushroom.

derobert

9:12 PM

@Mien Exactly.

Mien

But I bet your safe as you are.

I've never eat a gay mushroom as well.

(I hope you're not gay :p)

(well no, I don't care)

rfusca

@rumtscho yes

Mien

How do I get myself out of this mess? :(

rumtscho

@rfusca left half is "daylight", right half is spot white balance read from the petal tip.

derobert

@Mien I don't seem to be safe, with how often you invite me to baths in your stock pot.

rumtscho

9:14 PM

@Mien you can delete your messages?

rfusca

@rumtscho left half better imo

derobert

@rumtscho wonder what happens if we star it, before she can delete it?

rumtscho

@derobert Now I see where she got the idea for gay mushrooms for. Probably all mushrooms agreeing to go to a public steam bath very close to other mushrooms are gay.

@rfusca OK, thank you

Mien

I think you can see the history even if I delete it.

rumtscho

Will keep it that way.

Mien

9:16 PM

But I won't delete it, I'm not a wuss.

rumtscho

@Mien I can see it. Non-mods can't.

Mien

@derobert Did I tell you that my bf and me ate mushroom sauce this weekend?

derobert

@rumtscho Hmmm, then I guess I'm not a gay mushroom, as I've never agreed to her steam baths.

@Mien Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

rfusca

@Mien murderer?

the bf looks shifty, prolly his idea

derobert

@Mien Do you know, they've printed up posters with your picture, and the words "run & hide"?

Mien

9:18 PM

@rfusca Haha, I thought you said 'shitty'.

rumtscho

@derobert I think you mixed up the necessary and the sufficient condition. But hey, it isn't an evening for advanced logic, I've already had a beer.

rfusca

@Mien works either way ;)

Mien

:O

You're just jealous!

rumtscho

Actually, I am finishing the last few gulps of it.

derobert

@rumtscho Definitely. Its about time to leave work. Too much thinking today already.

rumtscho

9:19 PM

A local organic brewery has recently started making dark lager. I am happy.

rfusca

@rumtscho the mere fact you brought it up indicates you've not had nearly enough

rumtscho

(even though it is expensive, and visiting the organic shop is even more expensive, because I buy lots of other stuff there)

rfusca

well the kiddo is starting to have periods of being awake but not eating today and yesterday

Mien

@rfusca I agree.

rumtscho

@rfusca saying that I've had a beer means that I haven't had enough beer? I know some people who love this kind of logic. Sometimes, I agree with them.

@rfusca Is this good or bad?

rfusca

9:21 PM

@rumtscho no, the logic points

its good for his development, bad because it means we have to actually start parenting soon ;)

up till now he's been more like a really clingy and needy hamster

3

Mien

@rfusca Like my cat?

rumtscho

@rfusca you are aware that these chat logs are preserved forever, right? They will probably be around when he is a teenager and has his own SE account and decides to read what you have said about him.

derobert

The logical confusion is fine. It means everyone has missed the bigger issue.

rfusca

you're giving cooking SE a lot of staying power

rumtscho

Hey, this is one part of social networks I haven't thought about yet

So, currently, people know to avoid saying things in public which makes them look unprofessional, because bosses look at FB of new hires, etc.

and children keep mumm because their parents read their pages.

rfusca

9:25 PM

fcdvcc,m

that was him saying hi

with his foot lol

rumtscho

But the fun will start when the current babies grow up to be in the "I have to fight my parent over everything" age and read the history of what their parents said and did when they were teenagers themselves

@rfusca I see you haven't started parenting yet. Your first task should be to teach him to use his hands on the keyboard.

@derobert And what was the bigger issue?

rfusca

he hasn't discovered his hands yet ;)

derobert

@rumtscho Well, mushrooms don't have male and female. So what's a gay (or strait—sp?) mushroom?

rfusca

hee's got the hiccups...again

rumtscho

hey, darktable 1.0 is sweet

It has L*a*b curves

rfusca

9:29 PM

@rumtscho interesting

rumtscho

So I can make the blue bluer without touching the yellow

rfusca

ah, ya, LR has had that stuff for a long time

rumtscho

But besides costing money, LR needs an apple OS

Or does it work on Windows?

rfusca

@rumtscho Windows

rumtscho

rfusca

9:31 PM

@derobert quite shocked that lens Q is as popular as it is

@rumtscho waaaay too blue

rumtscho

This is exaggerated to show the effect, of course I won't keep it that way

derobert

@rfusca lens Q ???

rfusca

ah ic

@derobert the one on photo.se about 2.8 lenses

derobert

@rfusca ohhh

@rfusca yeah, that did get a lot of popularity

rfusca

@derobert yup

rumtscho

9:33 PM

@rfusca I haven't been on Photo in weeks, link?

rfusca

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Q: Why no zoom lenses below f/2.8?

I can understand that a zoom below f/2.8 would be difficult and costly, but it seems like something pros would kill for. Surely it can't be more expensive (if its possible) than some of the $10k+ lenses and they exist to sell in limited quantities. Is it just near impossible or is there another...

lens

rumtscho

Oh, what a question.

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Q: What adjustments are specific to RAW files?

When I edit a RAW file in Photoshop or Nikon's ViewNX 2 software, there's a wide range of things I can adjust. For example, when I open a RAW file in Photoshop, I see the following options: White Balance Temperature Tint Exposure Recovery Fill Light Blacks Contrast Clarity Vibrance Saturation...

post-processing raw

He seems to need a textbook for beginners.

derobert

@rumtscho Yeah...

rfusca

@rumtscho he's new to a lot of it, he's a mod on one site i think

i thought at least

rumtscho

OK, so he is new. Why does he have a camera which can shoot raw at all, but hasn't read even the most basic info about photography?

rfusca

9:36 PM

@rumtscho gotta start somewhere

derobert

Well, mod on Cognitive Science

rumtscho

(yes, it is a rhetorical question. Still, I hate this attitude).

Stack Exchange

9:48 PM

0

Q: Parmesan Cheese Substitute

What cheese tastes most similar to Parmesan Cheese? Note: I am not looking for a fake-cheese substitute, just a real cheese that tastes similar to Parmesan.

cheese

0

Q: Confectioners Sugar or Brown Sugar

I have a dilemma! I have ran out of granulated sugar, and only have confectioners sugar and dark brown sugar left! :( Which one should I use as a substitute for granulated sugar in sugar cookies?

sugar

derobert

@StackExchange Wow, now there's a way to make a recipe fail.

rumtscho

@derobert I think that many recipes will produce a good cookie with brown sugar. It will be a moister cookie with a different taste, but still a tasty cookie.

derobert

@rumtscho It'll be tasty, yes, but it probably won't have the right texture. And texture is important in a sugar cookie

rumtscho

@derobert I'm not even sure I've ever had a "sugar" cookie

derobert

@rumtscho ahh, the main flavor is sweet (sometimes, with some vanilla as well). They are supposed to be soft, chewy, and maybe just a tad bit gooey.

rumtscho

9:54 PM

Ohh, we have such a productive new user >.<

Mien

I don't know sugar cookies either, I think.

derobert

Maybe they're an American thing.

rumtscho

I am quite sure they are an American thing. Most of the baking you do over there differs from ours.

derobert

(And Romano is nearly identical to Parmesan? Really?)

rumtscho

I don't know, I haven't tried them side-by-side.

I suspect they are identical if you buy the supermarket stuff which doesn't have any flavor, only differs in hardness between "gouda" and "parmesan"

Mien

9:57 PM

Are eggs sold in the US refrigerated?

rfusca

@Mien yes

rumtscho

Btw, I spent lots of money on food today

Part of the stuff I bought was real Romano

Haven't tried it yet.

But the shop was good, I tried their salami.

So I suspect the cheese will be good too.

Had better be, at 3 Eur per 100 g.

Mien

Hah, that's expensive indeed.

rumtscho

I decided to finally make the Kenji chili

Mien

You already know it's expensive if they put prices per 100 g ;)

derobert

9:59 PM

I've had real Parmigiano-Reggiano and real Romano, and I wouldn't say they're nearly identical

rumtscho

Went through three small butcher shops to look for meat

Mien

I only had the P-R I think.

@rumtscho What did you look for?

rumtscho

And none of them had any really good cooking beef

Mien

Meat-wise.

Ah yes, that chili isn't with minced meat.

rumtscho

@Mien short ribs

The beef they had was all different kinds of roasts

I got something the seller assured me would be up to a long cooking, but I am skeptical

And also, did somebody (maybe Aaronut) mention that bones for stock are 50 cents per pound in America?

(can't have been Aaronut actually, with dollar prices)

I paid 6.60 per kg of bones without meat

Just big marrow bones.

derobert

10:02 PM

@rumtscho Canadians have dollars too...

rumtscho

I hate the food availability here.

Mien

Sometimes you can get the bones for free.

@rumtscho I agree.

derobert

@rumtscho I'll have to check price for marrow bones, much cheaper than that here.

rumtscho

@derobert OK, but I thought I would have remembered if he had said "canadian cents" or such.

Mien

33% of available meat is minced meat in one way or another.

rumtscho

10:03 PM

No, here it isn't minced meat

derobert

@rumtscho well, possibly he considers his Canadian dollars as the real dollars, and ours the fake ones. Who knows.

rumtscho

It is mostly white bird meat here. And schnitzel.

It is also easy to find chicken thighs and roast meat.

Mien

We have minced meat, sausages, burgers etc. But it's basically all the same.

Yeah, chicken is easy.

rumtscho

But steaks? slow cooking meat? ugh.

derobert

@rumtscho what type of beef did the seller give you for long cooking?

Mien

10:04 PM

Steaks are easy as well.

Slow cooking meat isn't.

rumtscho

@derobert I have no idea

Mien

I think.

I never looked up the correct term here.

But we have 'stew meat'.

rumtscho

It didn't have a label as the part of the beef.

The "stew meat" here isn't nearly gelatinous enough.

derobert

@rumtscho hmmm, that sucks. If you at least knew the primal cut, that'd help a lot in knowing how to cook it

rumtscho

@derobert If they call it "stew meat", it should be suited for any kind of slow cooking, I think.

derobert

10:06 PM

@rumtscho well, for braising, at least. May or may not be so good for smoking.

rumtscho

I don't smoke meat. I don't have a smoker.

This is my meat for the chili.

I hope it will work. Although this marbling looks more like fat than like fascia.

I didn't find fresh herbs for a sachet either, I put a pack of herbal tea in the stock :(

derobert

I think, more or less, anything works for chili.

Sobachatina

10:23 PM

@derobert I've had them both- but not at the same time.

Mien

@rumtscho So you're not making the Kenji chili then!

rumtscho

@Mien I am making it, he didn't specify the herbs for the homemade stock.

I won't be using his spices anyway

I don't like star anise etc.

And I didn't feel like buying soy sauce only for this dish.

Much less anchovies.

But I will use his findings on alcohol, chocolate, dried chillies, and beans.

Mien

Do you have W-sauce?

Sobachatina

I didn't buy anchovies. I'm surprised that you don't have soy sauce though.

Worcestershire is necessary. Always necessary. Everywhere.

Mien

@Sobachatina Right! Even in the bath tub!

rumtscho

10:31 PM

I don't know if I have W

Mien

Did you make your tapioca pudding already?

rumtscho

I used to have it, but had to throw out a lot during the weevil days.

Sobachatina

@Mien I haven't done it but I'll bet it would be amazing.

rumtscho

No, I don't plan to use it soon.

Sobachatina

@Mien I haven't been home yet.

I'm leaving work shortly.

Mien

10:31 PM

Oh okay.

Sobachatina

In fact. Now.

Goodnight.

Mien

Bye ;)

rumtscho

lol, I thought you are asking me. But yes, for @Sobachatina, it sounds like a good idea.

Mien

I'm off as well.

rumtscho

@Sobachatina good nicht and bon appetit

Mien

10:32 PM

Good luck with your chili @rumtscho :)

I hope Kenji don't let you down.

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