The Frying Pan

Cerberus

00:00

Yay!

Although the fine should not be added to the budget of whichever agency issues it.

There should be no conflict of interest.

It should flow directly into the treasury.

The Ministry of Justice should not be a company generating its own income from fines.

Jolenealaska

00:17

I don't think it does. Fines usually go to the general fund or are earmarked appropriately (like DUI fines sometimes get earmarked for education or victim advocacy)

Cerberus

Good.

I know sometimes fines do go to the agency's budget.

I think traffic fines do in Holland, or they used to, some of them.

In New York, certain corporate fines go to some state agency, I think I read that somewhere.

Jolenealaska

Conflict of interest is very frowned upon in legal matters here. I'm not saying what you're concerned about doesn't happen, I've just never heard of it, and I would expect it to be loudly publicized if it did.

Cerberus

00:41

The conflict of interest was between an agency's budget and its fines, so it wasn't about individual people.

I read about it happening in New York, but I forgot where.

Jolenealaska

00:59

Whether or not an individual profited, a conflict of interest is still a conflict of interest.

Jolenealaska

01:10

I need techie advice!

My monitor is connected to my computer with two cables. On the back of my computer I have a DVI and a VGA connector.

Those both are connected to my monitor (I'd have to look to see which side is female and which side is male, but I imagine that is standard)

I want to use my television as a second monitor. I'd like to have audio in the connection, but that isn't critical. Mostly I want to be able to write in Word and here in chat both while using Dragon and to be able to see it from across the room. I have two HDMI inputs on the television.

I am getting conflicting information by Googling.

it would be nice to be able to stream videos to my computer and watch them on television (with the TV speakers), but not a big deal if the sound actually comes from my computer speakers.

Will this:

amazon.com/gp/product/…

and a DVI splitter do the trick?

The "sex" of the cable is correct.

as I have said, I would like audio, but it's not a big deal. I understand that that cable will not carry audio.

Would that work for my non-audio needs?

If so, what what I have to add at that point to get the audio signal to the television?

I don't want an identical signal to each monitor. I want the television to work like a separate tab in Firefox. An identical signal would be better than nothing (especially at that price), but not ideal.

Jolenealaska

02:00

@Cerberus They did a sonogram to rule out a blood clot. The standing differential diagnosis is staff infection (probably MRSA) leading to bilateral cellulitis.

Cerberus

@Jolenealaska I'm not sure, I'm afraid. I've never done anything with two screens. My guess is that it will work, but I really don't know.

@Jolenealaska MRSA sucks. But cellulitis doesn't sound super scary, or is this variant super scary?

Using multiple desktops (that's what they call it) on multiple screens is supposedly built into Windows, as long as Windows is able to detect the screens.

I have read about people having trouble switching between desktops and such, but the basic principle is supposedly easy.

Jolenealaska

I am not "cured" by a long shot, but I am not in danger as long as I monitor my temp and present myself back to the ER if I take a turn for the worse. No, cellulitis is not generally life threatening. The danger comes from how fever affects MS and the possibility of MRSA, which can be tenacious.

Cerberus

Maybe ask someone who uses more than one screen, maybe @derobert ?

@Jolenealaska OK I understand.

Jolenealaska

Thanks...you just did :)

Cerberus

Heh.

Jolenealaska

02:09

I may ask at one of the (gasp) techie stacks.

Cerberus

Scary!

I thought SE was all about cooking.

But you should.

I'm afraid it is my bed time already...

Jolenealaska

SuperUser I suppose. Good night!

(she says while snickering)

Cerberus

Heh.

Good luck!

You might also consider their chat room.

Or any vaguely related chat room that is active now.

Maybe even the one belonging to SO...

disappears in puff of smoke

Jolenealaska

(I'll believe it when I don't see it)

Anubian Noob

03:34

@Jolenealaska So you can plug in one to your TV and one to your monitor

But why are both plugged into your monitor now??

Jolenealaska

<shrug> the VGA doesn't seem to do anything.

I can disconnect it, and not see any difference.

A user in the SuperUser chat just asked the same thing.

So I tried the disconnect.

So my first attempt is a long enough VGA to HDMI cable?

Since my display goes blank if I disconnect the DVI, he suspects a bad VGA cable.

I connect it because it came in a box, I asked no questions.

Anubian Noob

Windows?

Jolenealaska

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Anubian Noob

What if you disconnect both then plug the VGA back in?

faulty VGA cable is kinda unlikely...

Jolenealaska

I'll check in a bit.

brb

Jolenealaska

04:55

it took a while and everything crashed, but I am up and running now with no VGA.

Anubian Noob

05:12

wat

1) Didn't you have it working with no VGA before

2) why did it crash??

Jolenealaska

When I disconnected VGA "hot" it went blank. When I disconnected and then turned it on, it didn't want to boot. I went through a Windows troubleshooting rigmarole.

Anubian Noob

05:29

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@Jolenealaska also when you dual monitor your second monitor is it's own desktop adjacent to your first monitor

like you move your mouse off to the side you'll go to your second monitor, and back

Jolenealaska

That's what I want.

The only reason that I really could see myself needing to go back and forth is to Google a reference.

Anubian Noob

:+1:

uh

Jolenealaska

05:49

Shreyas...The Indian actor??

Cute Guinea Pig though. I love Guinea Pigs.

Anubian Noob

Shreyas is a pretty common name

Well... it's not uncommon

me too :)

Jolenealaska

I used to have a very friendly one. Of all the "pocket pets" I've ever had, he was the only one who would actively seek out attention. He was also very vocal, and ticklish.

His name was LD.

Once I'm fully settled in, I will go on the search for a very young guinea pig.

I've been asked many times what makes a good first pet for a kid. The answer is always a guinea pig.

Anubian Noob

06:07

awwhh

Jolenealaska

he could hear us open the refrigerator door. He would scream for carrots.

I'm almost embarrassed to say that I would use him as bait to get terriers to hold a "stay", but no blood no foul.

Although, a gerbil was snatched from my hands and eaten that way.

That was my favorite gerbil.

Anubian Noob

T_T

Faheem Mitha

08:43

Hello everyone.

Jolenealaska

09:32

Hi @FaheemMitha

Faheem Mitha

Hi @Jolenealaska. How are you doing?

It's been raining over here, unusually.

Jolenealaska

09:48

Today was the gorgeous kind of day that serves to remind me why I live here.

7C, sunny, occasional fluffy clouds, fresh snow on the mountains, light breeze.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska Sounds nice. Did you go for a walk?

When you say 7C, you presumably really mean 7C? That wouldn't fit most people's idea of a gorgeous day.

But you must be Ok with cold, otherwise you wouldn't live there.

Jolenealaska

No, only to the dumpster and back. But I kept my windows open! A "walk" is beyond me on a good day; it was a pipe dream today.

I'll be recovering from my illness for a while.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska I'm sorry.

But you were walking dogs earlier, right?

Jolenealaska

"Recovering" is a good thing. One dog, and only to "do his business".

50 yards is not a "walk".

(to me)

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska ok

Jolenealaska

09:57

7C is perfect.

Anything warmer is too hot.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska I think you could find people who would disagree with that statement. :-)

And since when do Americans quote things in Celsius, anyway?

Jolenealaska

Many, I am sure. Me, only because I am accustomed to this room.

Faheem Mitha

44.6 F. Ok. not that cold, really. Still colder than I would like.

I lived long enough in the US that now I "think" in F. Scientifically unsound as that may be.

Jolenealaska

I only think in F. For all else, Google was created.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska You should post some pics.

Do you have super-scenic scenery locally?

Jolenealaska

10:07

Yep. More so about 75 miles away where I used to live.

Faheem Mitha

I didn't realise how isolated Alaska is till I looked at the map yesterday.

It's right off the edge there.

Jolenealaska

About 1 person per square mile.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska Very different from India.

Jolenealaska

That's Lake Hood, just down the street.

Faheem Mitha

What is your local view?

Jolenealaska

10:11

Faheem Mitha

I once read a novel called "An Old Captivity", about a expedition to Greenland (I think).

They had those special types of planes designed for landing on ice and stuff. They need special float type things.

@Jolenealaska Wow, picturesque. What's with all the planes? Are you near some kind of base?

Jolenealaska

There are more float planes here than anyplace else on earth.

Faheem Mitha

Ah, float planes? That's the term? Ok, will try to remember that.

And by "here" you mean Anchorage?

Jolenealaska

The lake is just an extension of the airport. Our airport used to be (by one measure) the busiest on earth.

Yes - Anchorage.

Faheem Mitha

So you're right by an airport?

Jolenealaska

10:16

Yep, about 10 minutes if no traffic.

Faheem Mitha

Ok

Jolenealaska

Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport

Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport (IATA: ANC, ICAO: PANC, FAA LID: ANC) is a major airport in the U.S. state of Alaska, located 4 nautical miles (7 km) southwest of downtown Anchorage. The airport is named in honor of Ted Stevens, the U.S. Senator from Alaska serving from 1968 to 2009. It is included in the National Plan of Integrated Airport Systems, which categorized it as a primary commercial service airport. == HistoryEdit == Built in 1951 as Anchorage International Airport, the airport was served in the 1950s by Alaska Airlines, Northwest Orient, Pacific Northern Airlines and Reeve...

Faheem Mitha

Sounds like a big and busy airport.

Jolenealaska

Compare the size of the city proper to the size of the airport:

Hi Cerby :)

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska The airport looks like a relatively big chunk of the city to me, unless I am misreading.

Jolenealaska

10:26

It is a very big chunk.

Faheem Mitha

You have a university there? How is it?

Jolenealaska

Of course we have a university! It leads arctic research and hockey.

I don't think there is such a thing as a city in the US without at least one university.

uaa.alaska.edu

Faheem Mitha

The university looks picturesque too.

Does anyone know the recommended software for editing PDFs on Windows? I'm thinking of like adding comments to PDFs by typing.

Jolenealaska

10:43

I have only edited PDFs using Adobe. It's an example of going where I am led.

Faheem Mitha

@Jolenealaska That would probably work. Is that Adobe Acrobat? Was it expensive?

Ok, nap time for a bit. Later, folks.

Jolenealaska

The basic is free and ubiquitous. I seem to remember that there is a free trial for the ability to edit PDFs.

Jolenealaska

11:56

I just unpacked a toy that I had forgotten and hadn't played with yet.

It's a USB microscope, and that is a fennel seed.

ElendilTheTall

@jolenealaska truly furthering the causes of science :P

Jolenealaska

Funny thing though...

I can't get it to go again.

The lights are on, but no one is home.

ElendilTheTall

13:58

@jolenealaska restart everything.

Computer, microscope... Go out of the apartment and come back in again, you name it.

Faheem Mitha

14:31

@Jolenealaska I was asking about the version for editing PDFs.

Which I imagine is not free of cost.

user116848

16:03

Good evening.

user116848

How are we all? :P

Anubian Noob

Great!

Faheem Mitha

16:28

Hi @Arrowfar. Hi @AnubianNoob.

user116848

Hi Faheem!

Faheem Mitha

@Arrowfar Actually, it's not evening for most people.

user116848

Why remove it?

user116848

Yes it is fun. Sometimes I use my own timezone, other times when I see someone say "Good Morning etc" I just say "Good Morning" back.

Faheem Mitha

@Arrowfar Incorrect statement. :-)

user116848

16:38

heh :)

Anubian Noob

o/

user116848

\o

Cerberus

21:25

@FaheemMitha I don't know what you want exactly, but any decent PDF reader can add notes to PDFs, like Foxit.

Faheem Mitha

21:41

@Cerberus Well, I use Debian. Apparently okular will do it. I'm not familiar with foxit.

It seems Foxit is available for Linux, but I think I'll pass. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Cerberus

OK good.

Faheem Mitha

23:06

@Cerberus See my answer:

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A: Text annotations and image additions to PDF file using free software

Okular can make annotations on PDFs, as of the version in Debian 8 (Jessie). This is the version: okular --version Qt: 4.8.6 KDE Development Platform: 4.14.2 Okular: 0.20.2 Here is how it works: For details, see the Annotation reference page from the Okular manual. First, you need to annotat...

Cerberus

Yay.

Faheem Mitha

@Cerberus yay?

Cerberus

Yes.

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