Android Hell - 2022-04-26

Cat of doom2

00:04

@forest dice rolls, DM can make a map with player and enemy icons on them. mark down light soucres and traps so they don't have to rember

just a bunch of really neat resources

i think player sheets might also be uploadable there but don't quote me there. @forest

Cat of doom2

01:27

does anyone know how to get old pokemon games?

forest

@Catofdoom2 Which ones?

And do you have any system capable of playing them? Or will you play them on an emulator?

Cat of doom2

@forest you're still here lol

forest

Well, I work on my computer, so I can keep all the tabs open. :P

Cat of doom2

@forest i only have a regular switch non-modded so not likely

forest

@Catofdoom2 There are lots of places you can get ROMs, but unless you're going to run it in an emulator or have a device that lets you run ROMs, you won't have much luck.

Cat of doom2

01:30

I have a 3DS but i don't my password or nintendo account and it's fairly old

forest

You could buy the R43DS or whatever it's called.

Cat of doom2

IE i can't download digtally

forest

If you haven't updated the firmware in a while, you'll likely be able to jailbreak it.

Then you can run emulators on it much more easily.

Cat of doom2

@forest how does that work and where could i get?

forest

Go on Amazon and search "3DS R4" or something.

Then look up "jailbreak 3ds" on Google. Maybe a site like 3ds.hacks.guide helps.

Cat of doom2

01:34

@forest can you vouche for this product?

forest

Once it's jailbroken, you can put emulators on it.

Cat of doom2

wait... what does that mean?

forest

@Catofdoom2 If you get a legit copy. R4 is a famous line of homebrew devices.

There are some sites that are scams, so get it off Amazon or something.

Cat of doom2

@forest to be clear. this is a trusted nintendo product?

or is this 3rd party

forest

3rd party.

Cat of doom2

01:35

...

forest

Jailbreaking and homebrew is all 3rd party. But it's a legit device.

And the homebrew scene is healthy.

Cat of doom2

how do all the youtubers play the games on comuter?

forest

An emulator.

Cat of doom2

thats legel?

forest

Yes, but an emulator needs a ROM (a copy of the game itself), and there are legal and illegal ways to get the ROM.

But most people just pirate the ROM. I can't recommend that since it's technically illegal, but it's what everyone does.

But the emulator itself is always legal.

FWIW I play old Pokemon games on an emulator myself.

Cat of doom2

01:38

okay

forest

Actually, I play almost all old games on emulators.

Cat of doom2

do they have their online capabilities or no?

forest

Uh, probably not. Most old games don't have online servers running anymore. There are a lot of homebrew servers set up though, which you can use to play with other homebrew users.

Are you talking about an early Nintendo DS Pokemon game? IIRC they're the first to have online support.

Cat of doom2

@forest i really want to play black 2 but its currently 500 dollars. i'll naever be able to afford that

forest

Jesus.

That sounds way too expensive.

Cat of doom2

01:41

@forest yeah, i was shocked when i saw that

i'm just going to give up lmao

forest

There have got to be cheaper options. For that, you wouldn't need an emulator because the 3DS supports NDS games natively. But you'd have to download the ROM, which is technically illegal. Not that I haven't done that myself a thousand times, of course.

Cat of doom2

@forest the japnesse version is supring even cheaper

forest

amazon.com/Pok%C3%A9mon-Black-Version-2-nintendo-ds/dp/… this says $120.

Cat of doom2

only 189 instead of 500

forest

So I guess the question is: Would you feel comfortable pirating it?

Cat of doom2

01:43

@forest not only is that way cheaper then what i could find but 200 dollars is still a bit

@forest i just really want to play games before gen 7 since thats where i started

let's go eevee might be closest option lmao

forest

You might like the much older ones.

I like gen 3 the most.

Gen 1 is also quite fun but it's a lot more... unpolished.

Cat of doom2

@forest so i hear lol

forest

And if you're young, gen 1 might be a little too low-res for you.

But personally, I dislike everything past gen 4.

And I'm not a huge fan of gen 4 itself either.

Cat of doom2

@forest okay, not to talk age but i'm about to talk age lol. i'll be 15 next month so i'm defintly young but i've always wanted to play the gameboy pokemons.

forest

The Game Boy ones are really fun.

Both GB and GBA.

You could also put an emulator on your computer.

If you're fine with playing it on a bigger screen, that is.

Cat of doom2

01:48

@forest i'd have to get 1

forest

Or your phone.

Cat of doom2

this is a scholl laptop lol

forest

You can't play it on your school laptop when you're at home?

Hm, come to think of it, there might be online emulators in JavaScript for the original GB.

Cat of doom2

@forest severs block everything cagratized as games, rebulican poltics, and mature.

forest

>republican politics

heh

Well that's where proxies come in lol

Cat of doom2

01:50

@forest i wish i was kidding lol

forest

Just don't play during class time because that's a waste of school resources.

@Catofdoom2 Does this site load for you? gba.js.org

Cat of doom2

yes

forest

Online Pokemon Emerald (note: I haven't tested this)

Cat of doom2

@forest what is this

omg

pokemon emerald

wait

the site loaded but the game won't

forest

Odd. Might take a while to boot or something.

Cat of doom2

01:52

it's just a white screen

forest

There are probably other online emulators.

Cat of doom2

@forest really had my hopes up for a minute

does this save?

forest

Dunno. It might just take a little while to download because it's a few megabytes.

Yes it saves.

Cat of doom2

omg

it works

forest

Cool.

That might be legal since you're not downloading the ROM. But I'm not a lawyer.

Cat of doom2

01:56

@forest this is the most difficult decision of my life... am i a boy or am i a girl... hmm

forest

I think the girl's sprites are better.

Cat of doom2

@forest okay then lol

omg

i have a even more diffcult question now!

forest

Name? :P

Cat of doom2

whats my name!?

lol

forest

I like May, since that's the cannon name for the female in that series.

If my memory serves.

Cat of doom2

01:58

@forest may is my birth month so i guess that works

@forest i don't rember the starters for this gen so this'll be a suprise for me lol

forest

They're the good starters. :P

Cat of doom2

@forest thats a 7 in 8 chance so yeah

forest

You aren't playing this in school right now, right?

Cat of doom2

what do i set the clock to?

forest

Whatever the current time is. But I have a feeling that the clock won't work for the online version.

Not sure though. Could probably hack it in if you're familiar with ARM assembly.

Cat of doom2

02:01

@forest i don't know what that means

forest

Then you probably couldn't :P

(ARM is the type of CPU that the GBA runs, so ARM assembly is the machine code for the GBA)

If you like games and computers, you could learn how to program. It's quite fun. :P

Cat of doom2

i do indeed want to do thats

forest

Well, start learning a language like C or Python.

Avoid JavaScript, Java, and C#. They are trash languages, in my opinion.

Cat of doom2

.......

i don't like these starters......

i'll pick mudkip

only one i like of the 3 @forest

forest

so i herd u liek mudkipz

(ok, you can kill me now)

Cat of doom2

02:08

honestly the only 2 starters i don't like are torcic line and the chirta line

forest

Mudkip is good because he can learn the most HMs. He's a great utility Pokemon.

Cat of doom2

@forest what do i name him!

forest

I never name my Pokemon. Yes, I'm a monster.

Cat of doom2

@forest honestly... same lol

can he learn double team?

mudkip i mean

forest

I don't think so? He doesn't learn it himself. I'm not sure if he can use the TM.

Check Bulbapedia.

Cat of doom2

02:11

@forest blocked on the laptop consider a game

i'll just name him jared

forest

Heh.

Cat of doom2

@forest do you maybe play pokemon sord

probaly not

forest

Nope.

Cat of doom2

my english is so bad

i want dustox

how does wurmble turn into

forest

Silicoon or Cascoon.

Cat of doom2

02:15

how do i control that?

forest

It's random.

Cat of doom2

boooo

forest

Silicoon because Beautifly. Cascoon becomes Dustox.

Cat of doom2

this game underestimates my abilty to grind!

i will evole bfore the first rival battle!!

forest

Heh. I don't think you can do that, since you have to battle your rival the very instant you select your Pokemon, don't you?

Cat of doom2

02:17

not in this game

forest

oh

Cat of doom2

theres a single patch of grass full of level 2's before you battle him

forest

Ah.

You'll spend quite a while killing level 2s and 3s before you can evolve Mudkip.

Cat of doom2

i know

@forest give me a number

anything below 20

forest

65537

oh

17

Cat of doom2

02:19

ok

i'll grind to level 17

@forest ae you sure this saves? i can shut off computer and just resume later?

forest

I think you have to save it manually.

There's probably an option at the top? First save in-game, then use the option at the top.

It'll probably give you a save file to download or something.

Cat of doom2

i don't even know how to open the meau

forest

Isn't it on the top?

I saw that jsemu2.github.io/gba/launcher.html#pokemonemerald could do it.

I think that's the same code as the other one.

Cat of doom2

@forest still says thats a game lol

i think i did it

forest

Github is a game?

Cat of doom2

02:24

idk tho

@forest the school thinks so

forest

You aren't in school right now, are you?

Cat of doom2

no ma'am

i'm at home

its 8 at night

forest

ah

Cat of doom2

he won't let me buy balls!!

where do i get balls!!!

@forest where do i get balls?

forest

I think you can only do that later.

After defeating your rival the first time.

Cat of doom2

02:29

thats dumb

i can't find the rival

nvm i see him

huh

both my types are weak to him

forest

Yeah the rival always chooses the Pokemon that has an advantage.

Cat of doom2

i didn't know bothh my types though

which was dumb

since it always is both types lol

forest

Oh, because you're Ground and Water and they're Grass? Yeah, it sucks lol

Cat of doom2

i'm going to kill myself

i loaded a save trying to find what button was B @forest

uuuugh

forest

Did it overwrite your existing save?

Cat of doom2

02:38

idk

i lost progress tho

forest

You probably have to manually save from within the game, no?

Cat of doom2

yeah....

sad L(

forest

You'll get used to it. :P

Cat of doom2

does saving in game save evem if i close tab?

forest

Dunno.

Cat of doom2

02:42

@forest what button is B??

how

fucking how

i did it again

forest

I have no idea. I've never used an online emulator.

Maybe it's actually B.

Cat of doom2

i'm sad @forest

forest

Why?

Cat of doom2

honestly...

alot of stuff

@forest life has been really beating me down latly

forest

School?

Cat of doom2

02:50

@forest thats defintly a part of it. not all tho

Memor-X

@BradC though it's telling. either he doesn't believe Musk will being more free speech to the platform or be would rather his own more restrictive platform

Cat of doom2

i'm really sad

i gtg

sorry

thank you @forest

forest

I hope you feel better. :(