Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)

@SimonAndréForsberg It's a Windows application that can be used to show messages that have been pushed to it, and 2) you can install an app on your phone and then it shows your phone notifications on Windows

The cool thing is that you can create your own channels, subscribe to them, and push to those channels

I'd want to support Pushbullet channels for @Duga

But for that I want to build that web interface, some day

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi not sure what features you intend there...

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg If @Duga can push to a Pushbullet channel, then everyone who subscribes to that channel will see a notification in Windows whenever something happens

I'm not saying it's very useful or anything, but I would try to use it, might possibly become too annoying though

I've got some features in mind if we would use a web interface, need to write them down soon tm

You're not opposed to a web interface, right? You're just "opposed" to building it right now? ;)

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi exactly :)

skiwi

I wonder how to make it though?

Java EE or plain old HTML, etc.

Simon André Forsberg

10:39 AM

@skiwi We're already using Spring MVC for @Duga. That would be the obvious choice...

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Ah right, then yes

I'm not that familiar with the web-part of it though

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi then it is time to become familiar with it

skiwi

One more extra project can't hurt anyways

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi as if you don't have enough to do, eh?

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Yeah... right

If I'm already doing 100 things, then doing one extra thing is just 1% more!

Simon André Forsberg

10:46 AM

I have already made some .jsp files on @Duga, you could look at how I did it and follow the same pattern.

skiwi

Yeah, I'll try to write down what I want to do first

I'm trying to figure out why my 3D math is off :|

It seems like the rotation of an object is affecting its translation

skiwi

2:11 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Decided to make a little write-up

Users will have an overview of repository links, they can add, edit and remove them.

A repository link contains the following data:
- The repository URL
- The secret passphrase for the hook URL
- A list of event endpoints
-- StackExchange Chat: chat.SO / chat.SE, roomId
-- Pushbullet channel: Channel identifier, push key

(Can we simplify hooking up repositories (Github plugin?) or hire an IP address to function as DNS?)

Is there more we should consider?

Even maybe we could let the user easily link up repositories if we ask for Github access?

And also, should we block some endpoint properties from regular users? I can imagine, given it's a good webinterface, that you don't want everyone to just hook into any channel

sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ

Monking

skiwi

hey @sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi Making github "plugins" is not free. But yes, it could be simplified. I am not willing to pay for that though.

And you don't "hire an ip address to function as DNS". There are plenty of DNS'es already. We don't need a DNS. I think you're thinking of a domain (such as www.duga.net or something)

skiwi

2:28 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg Ok, I think asking for Github access on an account would open up lots of possibilities already

@SimonAndréForsberg I was more thinking of something that gives us the freedom to change domain name and url, like link to 82.35.145.49/github/payload/

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi it would. but there's two important questions to ask then: a) Is it needed? b) Is it something worth paying for?

skiwi

But duga.net could be stable enough here

@SimonAndréForsberg I meant more like linking your Github account to the Duga account, not paying for it

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi I could change it to duga.zomis.net/webhook, or something, which I have considered doing, but it won't be that easy to do and still support the old links at the same time

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Old links could redirect via a .htaccess

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi I didn't mean that the users of @Duga would pay. I meant that if we want a github plugin for @Duga, then we need to pay money to github.

skiwi

2:31 PM

@SimonAndréForsberg But maybe we don't need a plugin

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi in which case I'd need an Apache server wrapping around the Tomcat server. I know it's possible, but haven't bothered trying it.

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Ah, that complicates it, yes

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi Then we can't allow users to magically add a webhook to their own repository only by using @Duga's web-interface.

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg I'm not so sure about that... give me a minute

@SimonAndréForsberg I believe if we let users generate a token like github.com/settings/tokens/new then using that Token we have permissions to add webhooks

Might only need read:repo_hook and write:repo_hook

Haven't seen yet that applications on Github cost money though

bazola

@SimonAndréForsberg this is a dead simple way to do console logging in GWT if you ever need one

  native void consoleLog(String message) /*-{
      console.log( "me:" + message );
  }-*/;

Simon André Forsberg

2:57 PM

@skiwi that might be something...

@bazola What does Gdx.app.log do on GWT?

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg I'm personaly slowly growing a little bit tired of entering the link every single time I hook up ;)

bazola

@SimonAndréForsberg i haven't tried that yet

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi I know the feeling... I've copied the link to a sticky-note loooong ago.

skiwi

We really should be using secrets though

I'm becoming more and more tempted to actually write that interface

I'm not really too happy with creating the GUI itself though

I don't know, if say @sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ or @Marc-Andre could do that part, then I would only need to develop the logic, or how does Spring MVC work in that respect?

sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ

@skiwi Would that be a web GUI? Or something in Java?

Simon André Forsberg

3:04 PM

@skiwi Doing Spring MVC work isn't that complicated, really. And you don't really need to make it look nice at first either. I think you should be able to do a simple web interface yourself.

bazola

just learned a lesson with delimiters... you don't need delimiters at the front and back of whatever you are going to string.split().. you'll just end up with empty spaces that are a pain to debug

skiwi

@sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ Would be a web GUI in JSP pages, but @SimonAndréForsberg just said I can do something simple myself ;)

@bazola I believe that's actually fixed in Java 8

Not backported (un)fortunately

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi "fixed" how?

bazola

you know, you are right, because i did it in the first place because it didn't cause me problems on the Java 8 server side where I wrote the implementation :)

skiwi

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Q: Why does split in Java 8 sometimes remove empty strings at start of result array?

In Java 7 (and earlier) when we split on empty string like String[] tokens = "abc".split(""); split mechanism would split in places marked with | |a|b|c| because empty space "" exists before and after each character. So as result it would generate at first this array ["", "a", "b", "c", "...

sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ

3:08 PM

@skiwi Cool.

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi sounds like @bazola didn't do str.split(""); though.

skiwi

You don't need to do str.split("")

Doing "|a|b|c|".split("|") returns ["", "a", "b", "c"] in Java 7 and lower

But in Java 8 it doesn't return the first empty result

I think

bazola

well, i just successfully transferred player and region data to the GWT client :)

@SimonAndréForsberg unfortunately Gdx.app.log did not output to the javascript console

skiwi

I'm a bit afraid deploying @Duga locally now will be more of a pain

Is it maybe also time soon tm to rename GithubHookSEChatService to Duga?

Marc-Andre

3:27 PM

@skiwi You do not need to use JSP, there are template to use HTML for your views

Simon André Forsberg

3:42 PM

@skiwi Done!

4

@skiwi yes, it probably will. because of the database now being used

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Nice!

Duga

5:24 PM

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis pushed commit 68a4164f to master

> removed 'RuntimeLogService' entirely

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis pushed commit a3fbd7f0 to master

> now ignoring "What goes on Programmers.SE? A guide for Stack Overflow"

[Zomis/Duga] Zomis pushed commit 5fff8224 to master

> added Software Recommendations comment scan

TTQW!!

skiwi

Seems like @Duga is being used for so many things right now ;)

Why can't SE just hire us from remote and we can all be more happy? :P

Duga

^^ that!

Simon André Forsberg

6:09 PM

@skiwi Changing the URL broke Travis: travis-ci.org/Zomis/GithubHookSEChatService/builds/57679061

in Duga's Playground, 20 mins ago, by rolfl

@SimonAndréForsberg Duga is making the rounds in mod circles ... in part because I push it when I can ;-)

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg :o interesting

@SimonAndréForsberg Probably need to update it in Travis... somewhere

Yes, that's very vague

Duga

6:27 PM

[Vogel612/BloggingPlatform] Vogel612 commented on issue #6: allow dynamic setup of routes from database

> This one is required to allow #4

skiwi

7:34 PM

I think I'll push HearthMonitor quickly in the coming days, even with bare functionality, it might be a good idea to get it up

Current issues are getting people to install a Java program, have it automatically start up when you boot up your PC

An updater... haveno clue about that one currently

And the layout of the website will be an issue... I've got no clue how to make a nice looking website

Vogel612

@skiwi "nice looking"??

skiwi

@Vogel612 Yeah..

I pretty much want a catchy front page with a brief description, a place to advertise something and a download link right now

Vogel612

hmmm...

you mean with all the cool rounded buttons and latest google fonts stuff?

Simon André Forsberg

@skiwi an updater isn't that hard actually. I did one for work about a year ago

@skiwi what website? for HearthMonitor??

skiwi

@Vogel612 Perhaps, not quite sure

@SimonAndréForsberg Yeah

I do plan to experiment a little bit with advertising, etc.

Vogel612

7:40 PM

skiwi

Perhaps also integrate something where users can submit ideas? Not quite sure abou tthat yet

Vogel612

^^ code for that: github.com/Vogel612/BloggingPlatform/blob/master/src/main/…

(well with a little additional css)

@skiwi why not just refer them to github?

skiwi

No offence... but it doesn't quite look as fluid as I have in minds

Vogel612

sure it doesn't..

skiwi

@Vogel612 I want to focus more or less on the website itself

Vogel612

7:42 PM

hmm.... so it's basically static html you want?

@skiwi It's a quick throw-together...

skiwi

I have a hosting, etc. though it only supports PHP, I'll have to live with that

Vogel612

meh... PHP can also do static html ;)

skiwi

And a bit of not-so-static-html if I want to do something nice with ideas

Something like this even already looks quite nice in my opinion: heartharena.com

Vogel612

aside from the fact that it takes eternities to load for me..

mostly because it seems to overuse client-sided DOM manipulation

skiwi

8:02 PM

What do you all think about having a blog yourself?

Simon André Forsberg

8:16 PM

I never write anything in the blog(s) I already have.

skiwi

@SimonAndréForsberg Why not? :(

Simon André Forsberg

because I do other things

rolfl

Some write, others do.... right?

skiwi

I should write a blog entry about how to start writing a blog entry

Simon André Forsberg

Exactly ^^ (what monkey said)

Marc-Andre

11:38 PM

@sᴉɔuɐɹɥԀ I think it;s safe to merge :P

Duga

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