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1:24 AM
@AnnonomusPenguin I'm good. Nothing to eventful in my neck of the woods today, so that's good
 
1:46 AM
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Q: How to deal with being away from moderating for extended periods of time?

StupidBreadCookerI have a sub in which the other mods are not entirely reliable. There is a spam filter and the sub runs smoothly for the most part without moderation, but is/are there better ways than to just hope for the best?

 
 
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5:04 AM
^ Does that question feel to broad to anyone else? There was a small amount of clarification in the comments, but still a lot of open questions.
 
 
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3:13 PM
@AnnonomusPenguin don't be mad at me please! I posted an edit suggestion on one of your answers
 
3:35 PM
@Andy Yes.
 
4:15 PM
@bjb568 I voted to close earlier today; maybe others will too.
 
4:29 PM
is this
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Q: Fingerprinting the webpage content

SF.I'm moderating a closed section of a forum - think 'covered by NDA' (not actually, but it's a good equivalent of the situation), with restricted access. Sometimes we find screenshots from that forum posted by some rogue user anonymously in places where they definitely shouldn't appear. And the s...

really on topic?
it seems more like systems than community building and/or moderation
 
I've thought about it a few times. I think it falls more on the concept side than the implementation side.
 
not to mention it is very product recomendationy
 
And as a concept, it's well within the realm of a Community Manager's role.
 
but it isn't asking for the concept, it is asking "how do I do this" including commentary that he has tried and failed
he's looking for "I'd like to learn of some way to affect page appearance so that a screenshot of it could be traced to the author of the screenshot - maybe some kind of steganography that can survive lightweight compression, or other inconspicious elements that would allow to identify, whose account these screenshots were made from? Specifically, possible to appear broadly enough that even a relatively small part of the screen (say, one post) is sufficient to identify the culprit?

I tried "cooking my own" embedding something akin to low-contrast barcode in borders around posts, but it was
that's not concept, that's very clearly implementation
maybe not the technical part of how to install it, but looking for a product that does it
 
Well, you have votes. Use them if you think so. ;)
 
4:34 PM
yeah, I'm discussing first to figure out what other people's thoughts are to see if I'm out in left field on my own
want to consider the relative merits before I personally make a decision :)
 
@AJHenderson I agree. That question seems to be implementation/product recommendation. However, with a few edits, I think it could be salvaged.
 
possibly, I am also slightly biased as I think it is a strong fit for IT Security
which I think is probably a better venue for this particular question specifically
it isn't talking at all about how to form or grow a community or how to deal with community issues, it is dealing with a data security issue from information leakage
I don't really see that as community management related
certainly not strongly so
not technical measures to prevent it anyway
maybe how to approach training users not to do it
that I think would be more on topic
 
@AJHenderson That certainly makes sense to me. I've got to admit that I've only visited IT Security a few times so I'm not entirely sure what is/isn't on topic there
 
@AJHenderson /cc: @avid
 
@AJHenderson Flagged off-topic.
 
4:53 PM
@FEichinger not sure he's actually been in this room before, so may have to use your new-found superping
 
@AJHenderson I did in fact use it. And successfully so.
 
@FEichinger the @avid was originally just a normal ping, I altered it to super-ping
I think
 
@AJHenderson No, it was a super ping.
 
odd
it didn't show up as a super ping when I viewed it in "edit"
but maybe that's a weird chat display thing
 
@AJHenderson Neither does yours, after refreshing the page. I assume it doesn't actually recognize the super ping once it's converted.
 
4:56 PM
@FEichinger well hey, guess I learned something new today
 
Now the question is "Will I take 'too busy to care' for a 'Yes' or a 'No'?" :P
 
yes if it would be closed here or if you feel it's a marginal fit that would get better answers there, no if it is on topic enough here and likely to still do ok
 
I still think it mostly fits, perhaps needs some rewording.
 
5:03 PM
then leave it for now but file away that if the community does decide to close it, it should be migrated
 
6:02 PM
Hi folks. Anyone know of a meta.SE Q/A or blog post that addresses the oft-repeated claim that "comments are second-class citizens?" My search-fu is weak this morning and I want to provide an explanatory reference to a new user...
 
This kind of explains what comments are for
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Q: A guide to moderating comments

Shog9Commenting is one of the unsung heroes of Stack Exchange. The help center suggestions that you should submit a comment if you want to: Request clarification from the author; Leave constructive criticism that guides the author in improving the post; Add relevant but minor or transient i...

 
@FEichinger Thank you, Captain Obvious... my search-fu is hardly that bad that I haven't read those
 
@AirThomas It really depends on just what you're looking for.
 
@MattGiltaji Not bad. Kind of verbose though. I guess it's either that one, or meta.stackexchange.com/a/214174/254929
 
What are you trying to explain to the user in question?
 
@FEichinger They're explaining/clarifying in comments rather than by editing, so I just want to give them a note that comments are not the right place for that, with a "more info" link
@Andy Nice and direct. I'll go with that and the FAQ.
I came across the original revision in the VLQQ where it must have been flagged NAA, but was pretty confident it was meant to be a self-answer
 
Well, a question about editing rather than using comments would be more dedicated, then. ;)
And I'm pretty sure there's something like that on MSE.
 
 
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9:23 PM
@Andy If it fits on IT security, might as well leave it in its current state and ship it over. Should I contact a mod on that site?
@FEichinger I hate closing as a mod on a newly found beta. Not everyone agrees on betas and it is hard to go to meta every day for a new situation
 
@AnnonomusPenguin Read the remainder of the discussion first. :P
@AnnonomusPenguin Yeah. I usually wait for at least two other votes before I cast one myself. And that's just because we have so few people with close votes.
 
@FEichinger Well... :D
@FEichinger I think for that one question that there is something on meta, hold on while I check.
@FEichinger Ahh, this question touches on this subject (cc: @Andy @AjHenderson)
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Q: Should this site cater to those trying to build community platforms?

jcolebrandFor example: If you're building software for chat, should you be able to ask on [moderators] about "how can I recognize that a person is likely coming from the same computer on an IP range to block them from being abusive?"

 
5 hours ago, by FEichinger
I've thought about it a few times. I think it falls more on the concept side than the implementation side.
 
Is that enough to close? It looks like a consensus...
 
I'd consider 5+ a consensus.
 
9:29 PM
Ahh, thank you for that edit! That made me happier :)
 
But I'd still wait it out and see if we can get another close vote.
 
@FEichinger Look now.
:P
 
@AnnonomusPenguin :P
@AnnonomusPenguin I saw it a few hours after I had posted it and it bugged me ever since.
 
@FEichinger Still, I think that the general idea on meta is that we're more working with people, not technology.
 
@AnnonomusPenguin Well, then, let infosec have fun with it instead.
 
9:32 PM
I don't know.
This seems like an implementation thing... they're asking how they should do this, even if it isn't directly related to code.
 
AviD said he agrees with it being better served on infosec, we decided we close it anyway, so it's no use keeping it here.
 
@FEichinger yeah.
 
We could do with a question more focused on concepts than on specific implementations.
But it's not that question.
 
Inbox cleared... time to do important stuff.
A nap, perhaps?
 
Naps are always good.
 
9:42 PM
Yep.
 
besides, I need more rep on Sec.SE. I've been slacking on there since Moderators started
 
Me? SO rep.
 
@AJHenderson I still don't even have a Sec.SE account.
Despite sitting in the DMZ all day...
 
bad @FEichinger, very bad
 

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