The Frying Pan

Vikas

11:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek hi

Are you familiar with this coffee? amazon.in/Nescaf%C3%A9-Classic-Coffee-100g-Glass/dp/B00VK0FTP0/…

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas I've not drunk anything but filter coffee in years

Vikas

Oh

Actually this question doesn't answer my problem: https://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/102511/can-you-make-coffee-by-boiling-it

Should I ask it again by making it specific?

Journeyman Geek

hm?

What's wrong with the existing answer?

Vikas

11:50 AM

1) I don't even know what kind of coffee is it the one I added in question. Is it Instant coffee? I think it has affected answers. So I will first research whether the one I added is instant coffee or something else

2) I want to know why ALL THE TUTORIALS about Nescafe Classic coffee follow same procedure, like add some coffee, a little water and keep mixing it for 5-10 minutes and then they say "it releases flavor". While the answer talks about nothing about this. I want to know what those tutorials claim makes sense or not.

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas 1) Its covers most things :D

I mean if you wanted to ask about the optimum temperature for a specific kinda coffee... maybe but most people don't fuss much about instant.

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek ?

Journeyman Geek

2) Its probably the package instructions

3) Try it?

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek How would I know it's good and other's also drink this way? I mean you can boil ladyfinger vegetable in water and eat it just like potato, it will fulfill it needs. But the right way to cook ladyfinger is to fry it.

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas Well for good coffee you're picky

this is... not good coffee. Its ... easy coffee.

Vikas

11:54 AM

@JourneymanGeek ??

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas the comments are very much... "WHY ARE PEOPLE FUSSING SO MUCH OVER INSTANT COFFEE" ... for a reason :D

Vikas

SHould I ask a seprate question first about this specific coffee I'm referring to? To ask whether it is instant coffee or some other kind of stuff.

Journeyman Geek

.....

wait

OH

NOW, it makes sense!

@Vikas He made dalgona coffee :D

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek He who?

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas the coffee in the video is a specific style of instant coffee called dalgona coffee

its not 'normal' coffee

Vikas

11:58 AM

@JourneymanGeek So all those Indian tutorials who make this method coffee is dalgona coffee?

Journeyman Geek

I'm not sure how everyone missed it, it was internet famous sometime before the pandemic

@Vikas Yes

which is korean

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek How did you know? No even one tutorial mentioned it's called dalgona coffee. I watched around 3-4 videos.

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas I remembered it from a few years back

took a moment to register

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Looks like it makes sense. I searched this term and method is similar.

Journeyman Geek

That is very much 'not' the conventional method of making coffee

Vikas

12:01 PM

@JourneymanGeek okay, one query is solved. 3 remains:

1) What is instant coffee? Is Nescafe Classic an instant coffee?

Journeyman Geek

Yes

Vikas

When I search for "instant coffee" on amazon, I don't see Nescafe Classic

It shows a lot different kind of coffees

Journeyman Geek

Instant coffee's basically some part of the 'soluble' parts of coffee, powdered

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Let me make it sure by cross google searching

Journeyman Geek

as opposed to the sort which you brew, and seperate out the 'decoction' or 'solution' with the tasty stuff, and the grounds

There's a youtube personality who does a lot of coffee brewing videos if you're interested in watching videos of different ways of making 'proper' coffee

youtube.com/channel/UCMb0O2CdPBNi-QqPk5T3gsQ

Lots of 'expresso' which is steam extracted and very strong videos but...

youtube.com/watch?v=WHmpgMsW-aA that's a good video of something similar to what you were thinking of

Vikas

12:06 PM

@JourneymanGeek What means brewing?

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas Ah, in this context? Ground up coffee beans, water, and some way to seperate them afters.

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Okay, there comes the doubt about instant coffee: amazon.in/Nescaf%C3%A9-Classic-Coffee-50g-Glass/dp/B01C5IX1PA/… and amazon.in/Nescaf%C3%A9-Classic-Coffee-200g-Glass/dp/B06XCJ1SZP/… look same but one has title Instant Coffee and other don't have.

Journeyman Geek

youtube.com/… for example is a common 'simple' way to make coffee

Vikas

So makes me doubt whether it is actually instant coffee or not.

Journeyman Geek

Usually you wouldn't get 'real' coffee and instant under the same brand

so its both instant

Vikas

12:08 PM

@JourneymanGeek means?

Journeyman Geek

And the same product

Vikas

And one strange thing is, it's not even written on Bottle itself.

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas means there's no such thing as non instant nescafe

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Oh.

@JourneymanGeek So you mean all nescafe coffees are instant?

Journeyman Geek

Yes

Vikas

12:09 PM

@JourneymanGeek I'll cross check :P

Journeyman Geek

In fact, both of those are the exact same product

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Yeah that's why I was confused. Titles are different for both.

Journeyman Geek

Different people keying it in with different levels of care :D

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Are these both also instant coffees? amazon.in/Nescafe-Sunrise-Premium-200-g/dp/B00VJYYJ80/… and amazon.in/Nescafe-Gold-Coffee-190-g/dp/B084MKCCRN/…

@JourneymanGeek Maybe marketing thing

Journeyman Geek

Instant but different 'mixes'

> Instant Coffee-Chicory Mix

Chicory is a root that's used to 'thicken' some coffees

Some would argue it ruins coffee :D

Vikas

12:12 PM

@JourneymanGeek Cool. So these 2 products also contain a similar grainy powder? Like in Nescafe Classic?

One of the products is showing some seeds on it

Journeyman Geek

"Imported soluble coffee powder for a distinctive coffee experience" is instant also

@Vikas Advertising

Vikas

This is advertising?

Journeyman Geek

Its made from coffee. Hence coffee beans

Is it coffee? :D

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek So they are just lying?

Journeyman Geek

Well no

Vikas

12:14 PM

It might confuse a confused guy like me.

Journeyman Geek

they're entirely honest about there being Chicory in it

Vikas

So basically all coffees that have this grainy powder thing is called instant coffee?

/s/has/are

@JourneymanGeek ?

they are a powder

12:16 PM

@JourneymanGeek Cool. 2 queries solved.

Journeyman Geek

Tetsujin's answer actually covers it well

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek I feel he doesn't like me.

Journeyman Geek

Well - someone dosen't need to like you to have good advice

Look at the answer and the knowledge :D

Vikas

3rd serious and scientific question is: When all those tutorials say "it releases flavor" is there some truth in it or all are lying?

Because comment in my question say you can just pour hot water and drink it. Otherwise they would mention that you will miss that "flavor" if you don't mix it a lot.

Should I show you example of video?

If you understand Hindi, you can listen to this: youtu.be/PSf5RCbTtyY?t=152

Journeyman Geek

Nope

Don't speak hindi

But since you know what its called in english, between that and the excellent video on dalgona coffee I linked earlier, you should be able to work it out

Vikas

12:24 PM

@JourneymanGeek Or maybe I ask it on main site about this flavor thing? (I'm lazy)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Up to you

Vikas

I think it will be on topic

Journeyman Geek

I find research more fun work than asking questions

Vikas

Okay last question: What about just mix hot water and milk and drink it? Does anybody make this kind of coffee or it's rare?

(I think I can ask it under same question on main site)

Journeyman Geek

Its so common no one talks about it

a little like breathing or going to the toilet

Vikas

12:28 PM

🙄

I'll hazard ask it.

Thanks a lot

Vikas

1:22 PM

@JourneymanGeek is filter coffee is better because you actually brew it?

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas Well in general, you use a better grade of coffee, fresher, less processed coffee, can control almost every aspect of it....

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Can you give some links on amazon?

Journeyman Geek

@Vikas uhhh

We don't buy coffee on amazon

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek Just name a few brands/ product names?

Journeyman Geek

amazon.in/Jayanthi-Coffee-Works-Stainless-Cups-200ml/dp/… is a filter

We tend to buy Narasu's or Wayanadan, but can't find em in amazon india

Vikas

1:29 PM

@JourneymanGeek 🙄 this is a coffee maker not a coffee?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Figured you'd ask :D

But probably best to ask locals about what their usual style is

Vikas

I mean what other better options for coffee other than nescafe instant?

Journeyman Geek

uhm

Seriously - ask the parental units? :D

That's what I'd do

Vikas

@JourneymanGeek my parents don't know much about coffee.

they just boil coffee and drink, but they drink in rare cases.

Just like tea making :D

Stephie

4:03 PM

@Vikas uh... nope? The standard procedure for Nescafé is “hot water + a spoonful or two of the granules, stirs few times, done”. (I’d add “discard” as last step, personally.

Vikas

@Stephie discard? You mean you won't drink it?

Stephie

^.^
Probably not.

You do realize that there’s also Coffee SE?

@Vikas everything that’s made from reasonably fresh and reasonably recently ground beans?

Vikas

@Stephie lolwut

I didn't know seriously

Stephie

Vikas

@Stephie I think there's already an answer on my question now. It won't be possible to move it to coffee now?

Stephie

4:18 PM

Sure it’s possible.

Done.

Vikas

@Stephie Thanks

@Stephie Imagine the person who wrote answer didn't have a coffee account?

Stephie

Btw., Dalgona is slightly different. (Assuming you are talking about the Til Tok trend.?

@Vikas they do.

Journeyman Geek

@Stephie Yeah, but its roughly the same idea of creaming the coffee and sugar first

Stephie

... until you get a stable foam.

Vikas

@Stephie How is it different? Ingredients?

@Stephie In case they didn't have? Would it still be moved?

Stephie

4:25 PM

@Vikas Yes

Vikas

@Stephie And the user would make a debut in coffee?

Stephie

@Vikas nope. It would be a post by something like an anonymous user.

Vikas

@Stephie Oh. Imagine the answer had 100 upvotes. He would lose them all? If yes, it would be unfair.

Stephie

@Vikas which is why we moderators don’t migrate willy-nilly.

Vikas

@Stephie means?

Journeyman Geek

4:32 PM

@Stephie they got a stable foam, Then poured milk on it.

Stephie

If a post is within the scope of the original site, we usually don’t migrate. And there’s some scope overlap, that’s fine. However, there’s an agreement between Cooking SE and Coffee SE, we get their more cooking-related topics, we push clear coffee expertise ones over .

@JourneymanGeek And kind of ruined the show ;-)

The “special” bit is the foam that can’t be done with “genuine”(cough) coffee, only with instant.

@Vikas btw., on Coffee SE we get a lot of posts from Indian users that struggle with the difference between instant coffee and coffee beans.

Vikas

@Stephie Oh. I thought I was the only one :D

@Stephie How's it different?

Has StackExchange updated it's font just now? I'm seeing main fonts slightly different

Stephie

@Vikas yes. There’s a Meta on that.

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@Vikas see the photo above. The “novelty” bit is that you make a stable foam with instant coffee, sugar and a bit of hot water. Then make sort of an “inverted” latte. Instead of topping coffee with milk foam, you are topping the milk with coffee foam.

Journeyman Geek

4:48 PM

@Stephie I am slightly confused by this 😅

Stephie

LOL.

@JourneymanGeek A frequent duplicate is something like this.

Journeyman Geek

@Stephie I can understand unfamiliarity with a moka pot

But least In the south coffee is taken seriously 🤣

Stephie

But not that different from the coffee maker you linked to earlier?

Neither will work with instant?

@JourneymanGeek yay!

Vikas

@Stephie Meanwhile I'm still trying to decipher it.

@Stephie My eyes behaving a bit different when I see pages now :D

Vikas

5:24 PM

@Stephie @JourneymanGeek I just read this written on nescafe bottle:

So it basically says nothing to shuffle it the way they say on Youtube. I think you can just add things and mix it till it mixes properly and that's it. Not need to spend long time.

Stephie

@Vikas yep. As I said - just combine liquid and the instant coffee, done. The sugar is optional, but helps.

Vikas

@Stephie But will be interesting to see how it tastes, because I've always prepared it the other way.

Stephie

My very personal opinion? Instant coffee is pretty vile and only vaguely palpable if combined with enough sugar and milk to numb the taste buds. (Although in a case of seriously low blood caffeine levels ... uh, let’s not go there.Suffice to say that I have a jar in my cupboard.) Dalgona coffee in my perception doesn’t fall into the “coffee” category, it’s rather “coffee-flavored dessert”, so acceptable, especially if stuck in a lockdown and cafes are closed.

Vikas

@Stephie :P So which coffee you drink?

and ground coffee isn't vile?

Stephie

5:40 PM

@Vikas Espresso roast, freshly ground per shot (the small cup serving size), with lots of milk in the morning and straight afterwards.

On my kitchen counter there’s a grinder and an espresso machine, next to each other and used multiple times a day.

Vikas

@Stephie Okay. So why would people drink Instant coffee (not sure about other countries) but here Nescafe Classic isn't rare, it's quite common. Is it because roast/ground coffee is difficult to prepare?

Stephie

@Vikas convenience, requires minimum equipment, local tradition?

Vikas

@Stephie This? amazon.in/Colombian-Brew-Arabica-Filter-Coffee/dp/B06VV27WVF/…

@Stephie maybe

Stephie

@Vikas more like this.

Or splurging on something from my local roaster, but rarely.

Vikas

@Stephie For this you need equipments and more time?

Stephie

5:51 PM