The Frying Pan

@rumtscho It makes some difference, but not that much when you add lots of other ingredients. I might try frying and not frying side by side (in soup) and compare the result.

Mien

Blog post?

Cerberus

@Mien I press win-Q. Then I shift-drag a rectangle around the area that I want to have a screenshot of. Then I wait for the file to upload (a few seconds), then the link to the Imgur image is copied to my clipboard. That's what Zizorz does.

See how fast it is?

Mien

I see :)

Can you do anything else except selecting the area?

Cerberus

10:18 PM

No.

That's why it is blindingly fast.

Mien

heh :p

I think you copied it before you pasted it!

Cerberus

But I can just open the Imgur link in another tab, then use ImgOps (a bookmarklet, i.e. a button in my browser) to load the image in an on-line editor to add and change stuff.

@Mien How is that possible?

It has to be in chat before I can take a screenshot of it.

Mien

You've got to be a superhero.

It's the only explanation.

Cerberus

Notice the rounded corner.

Mien

Yes.

Cerberus

10:21 PM

@Mien And you can be one too, with Zizorz!

Let me know if you want to try Zizorz.

(It's freeware, but I can instruct you.)

Mien

No, it's fine :) I hardly need to take a screenshot of something

I might ask you for the name one day.

Cerberus

OK.

I paste images in chat and elsewhere all the time, somehow.

Do you like maps, by the way?

Mien

what kind of maps are you talking about?

Cerberus

Mien

halkidiki?

Looks like Greece to me :)

Cerberus

10:29 PM

Ding!

Mien

Ah no, I'm mistaken.

Cerberus

Mien

Ah, it is Greece, but a different part.

Cerberus

It was the Peloponnese.

Mien

This is a guessing game?

Cerberus

10:30 PM

Yes.

Only if you like to play.

Mien

Okay.

Sure.

Can I use the google?

No.

Okay.

Only your mind!

Well, it's partly green.

So no extreme heat or cold.

Cerberus

10:31 PM

Do you see a city?

Mien

It doesn't look like an eastern asian or american part.

Is it middle-eastern?

I see a white part. Is that a city?

Cerberus

Yes!

Mien

It's not saoedi arabia

Cerberus

Here it is again, with a scale.

Mien

that's more squary

Oh.

I don't know :p

Quite a few islands.

Cerberus

10:34 PM

This is the city.

Mien

Yes, that's what I thought

Cerberus

6 mins ago, by Cerberus

Now look at this again.

Mien

Oh

Dirty :D

Cerberus

The scale is a bit different.

Dirty?

Mien

Ah, it's not the upper right part of that picture?

I see similarities

Cerberus

10:36 PM

Mien

That's Greece again

Cerberus

Do you see both areas?

Yes

And the white city?

Athens.

10:36 PM

Ding!

And do you know what the Athenian peninsula is called?

Mien

Do you have qwerty keyboards in the netherlands? :o

Euh.

Cerberus

Hehe.

Mien

Evia?

Cerberus

I'm just a sloppy typer.

Attica.

Mien

Ah

the old name of Athens

I knew that :)

Cerberus

10:38 PM

No, it is the name of the region.

Mien

I think the Romans referred to Athens as Attica, no?

Cerberus

The city was Athênai.

Nope, they called it Athenae.

Mien

Hmm, yes.

Cerberus

But the adjective used to refer to Athens is atticus, attic in English.

Mien

And the goddess Athena?

@Cerberus Top of the world? :p

Cerberus

10:39 PM

@Mien Athênê or Athêna.

Mien

With what do your ^ correspond?

Cerberus

@Mien Heh, yeah I don't actually know why it is called that.

@Mien ê = η

Mien

I'm not sure if you're speaking Latin or Greek now.

Ah, Greek.

Cerberus

ô = ω

Mien

You got me confused by attic-us.

Cerberus

10:40 PM

Heh.

Mien

makes sense :)

Cerberus

@Mien Yes, that was Latin.

> **attic:**
"top story under the roof of a house," 1855, shortened from attic storey (1724). The term Attic order in classical architecture meant a small, square decorative column of the type often used in a low story above a building's main facade, a feature associated with the region around Athens (see Attic). The word then was applied to "a low decorative facade above the main story of a building" (1690s in English), and it came to mean the space enclosed by such a structure. The modern use is via French. attique. "An attic is upright, a garret is in a sloping roof" [Weekley].

Mien

Nice :)

I got smarter today.

Cerberus

Mien is a silly goose.

Mien

Good to know

Cerberus

10:43 PM

Hmm wait...

Mien

Too late.

It's starred into our annales.

Cerberus

Oh, yes alas.

Nothing I can do now.

Mien

Oh, it's annals in English.

Cerberus

But kudos to your Latin!

Mien

Oi!

Good thing I saw your edit!

Cerberus

10:44 PM

Hey! You stole my star!

Mien

Heh, thanks, It's been a while though.

Cerberus

Yay!

Mien

Tssk

but don't tell anyone.

Cerberus

Never.

Mien

So, you did Latin in high school as well?

Cerberus

10:45 PM

Yes.

Greek-Latin?

You only Latin?

Yep

Are the two commonly linked in Belgium?

Mien

Latin-Modern Languages

But I did the 10-hour obligatory course in the first year, and in my second year I chose Greek-Latin. I was bored of it, so I changed to regular Latin by the third year.

@Cerberus Yes and no.

They are linked in the sense that both are old, dead languages.

There are hardly schools where you can learn Greek without the Latin.

Cerberus

10:47 PM

But no link in the curriculum?

Ah.

Mien

But I think you can learn Latin on all schools without Greek.

And where you live?

Cerberus

Here, if you are on a school called a gymnasium, you get Greek and Latin, but you can drop one language after 3rd grade.

Mien

And you can choose which one of the two?

Cerberus

There are a very few schools that have only Latin, and there it is not compulsory, I think.

@Mien Yes.

Mien

Do you have G & L starting from the first year?

Cerberus

10:48 PM

So what percentage of people learn Latin in school, you reckon?

Mien

(and what age is the first year? :p )

Cerberus

@Mien Latin from first year, Greek second.

Ehm I don't know when the first year starts, but it's probably the same as for you.

The 6th year ends when you're 18.

Mien

@Cerberus I don't really know. In my first year, there were 3 Latin classes, and 6 "Modern" classes. Those two form the ASO (algemeen secundair onderwijs)

Ah yes, it is :)

Cerberus

So you start first grade at age 12, I think.

@Mien Hmm so modern languages are packed into one subject?

Mien

It's not really about the languages.

Cerberus

10:50 PM

We have separate classes for English, German, French, Dutch, Greek, and Latin.

Mien

We just have Latijnse klassen and Moderne klassen.

@Mien Huh?

Twee richtingen

Ahh OK.

in ASO

10:51 PM

I get it.

And what % of people does ASO?

(Which means asocial in Holland, btw. Wat ben jij aso!)

(Asociaal is used to mean rude here.)

Mien

Later on, the Latins can choose to have Greek as well. Or just Latin and then more math, more science or more modern languages. The modern 'group' can choose for econonmy, math, science or languages

We know aso as well. But you pronounce ASO letter by letter.

There isn't really the link :)

@Cerberus Most people.

Cerberus

Ahh I see.

@Mien Really? Oh!

Mien

We have ASO, TSO, BSO and KSO.

ASO > TSO > BSO in grades of intellect, if I may be so rude.

Cerberus

It is called VWO here, and only about 20 % do VWO.

Mien