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12:00 AM
Ah yes.
I thought the "member since" meant the whole network.
 
12:41 AM
That ice cream question is bizarre. What part of the word "ice" is not clear?
 
That's why you have to put ice in the fridge with it!
 
1:15 AM
@Aaronut Maybe they are not familiar with the rudimentary science involving temperature?
I agree- weird question.
Interesting- this is the first time I've seen someone say that they like the flavor of white pepper.
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A: How can I use white pepper without having the odor dominate the food flavour?

MbenziI took the time to check the web, because my American fiancé had no experience from it until she came to me in Sweden. It is amazing to read so much about that it is used in light-colored dishes in order to not get spotty food, but so little about the difference in flavor. One cooking site, howe...

They won't make mashed potatoes without it? I think it tastes like spicy gym socks.
 
Mm yeah I'm not a big fan either.
 
 
6 hours later…
7:31 AM
Good morning.
@Sobachatina My mom always buy white pepper fsr. I think she doesn't taste the difference.
There is one dish in which I really really like white pepper.
 
 
6 hours later…
Jay
2:00 PM
I dont mind white pepper.
 
Jay
2:45 PM
 
I love punctuation.
 
Jay
@Sobachatina I love inappropriate sentences due to missing punctuation
 
3:45 PM
hello all
 
Good morning.
It's been pretty slow this morning. Everyone is getting busy all the time.
 
hello @tastefive
 
@Sobachatina i see that
 
I may have a bit of time while this mapreduce runs...
 
4:02 PM
It's weekend.
I've got time.
 
Yup, this is gonna take a loooong time.
 
I've never played this game, but my mind is now officially blown
someone built a scientific/graphing calculator in Minecraft
 
4:27 PM
Hahaha :D
 
well that was fun
Apple took a 10% downward hiccup in share price
 
4:52 PM
@hobodave that's awesome. I love seeing projects that people build in Minecraft and dwarf fortress.
 
5:46 PM
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Q: How do kosher food preparation requirements compare with what is known by modern science to make food safe for eating?

VillageAs discussed in What are the requirements for a dish to be kosher?, kosher food must follow various rules and procedures. I noticed a pattern in these rules which suggests some consistency with modern food scientists' understanding of food safety and handling. For example: Shellfish often cont...

UGH.
 
The question is overly broad and cannot reasonably be answered in its current form?
We expect answers to generally involve facts, references, or specific expertise; this question will likely solicit opinion, debate, arguments, polling, or extended discussion?
 
I think overly broad is probably the best fit... seems like it'd take pages to properly cover
 
6:02 PM
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Q: When to use chicken thigh versus breast?

Brian OrtizThe America's Test Kitchen recipe for Chinese Orange Chicken calls for chicken thigh, explaining that it has a better taste and texture for the recipe. It does not explain why, however. So that has me wondering: how do chicken thigh and breast differ in taste and texture and how do you decide wh...

wow
has OP never tasted either?
 
What do you do with a bad answer (in content) that is very poorly worded?
If it would be only poorly worded, I would edit it.
But it's both, so I flagged it as 'very low quality'.
 
@Mien if its irreparable, just flag it
which answer, btw?
 
I don't really know what the point was :p
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A: Can you make orange juice with a blender?

sallyi think it wont matter so what the heck try it if you dont have a orange juice maker be care full what you do it probley wont tase the same as other orange juice

 
@derobert I guess even if you've had them, you still might not realize what makes them fit a recipe. Some people don't think very carefully about food. (But asking how they differ seems silly, unless he thinks maybe there's something he missed?)
 
Jay
@Mien yea thast pretty terrible
 
6:07 PM
@Jefromi yeah, I'm giving an answer with the cooking differences. And a suggestion that to find out how different they taste, OP taste them.
 
If all he's had is overcooked meat and fast food "meat" he might actually not know!
 
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A: When to use chicken thigh versus breast?

derobertWell, as to the difference in taste, I suggest the best way to find out is to try both (cooked, of course). If you have access to Cooks Illustrated (as opposed to just watching the TV show on PBS), they have recipes for both roast chicken breast and roast thighs—make both, and the flavor differen...

There, I think I covered everything. At least as best I can without my copy of On Food and Cooking in front of me.
 
Jay
@Jefromi I think the difference btween breast and thigh is even more pronounced if they are both overcooked
 
@Jay the textural difference sure is.
@Jay but all you'd find from the 190°F chicken experiment is that "chicken thighs are usable, breast is crap, wonder why thighs are cheaper. Odd."
 
Jay
@derobert Because in america, something that has a healthy connotation will make it more expensive.
even if it isn't really "healthier." Just less fat
And honestly, americans are lazy(im one of them) and chicken breast is a lot easier to work with
 
6:19 PM
@Jay I donno. I mean, I think the priciest part of the bird—by meat weight, at least—is the wing. And that's definitely not for health food.
 
Jay
@derobert but its different because its not pure meat anymore where as thigh and breast is still mostly pure meat
 
@Jay Hmmm. Thigh and leg are pretty easy to work with. Even when you've screwed up and cooked part to 180°F or ##*)!#@ forbid 200°F, the thigh is still edible.
@Jay Thigh and leg are pretty high % bone. Breast isn't.
 
Jay
@derobert Well breast is always without bone while most of the time the thighs come with the bone
 
@Jay You can get both either way. At least at all the supermarkets around here.
 
@Jay True. You caught me - I don't eat much meat.
 
Jay
6:23 PM
@Jefromi Are you a tiger? do i need to let you go if you holler?
 
Actually, I'm not sure how the prices of boneless, skinless thigh compares to bonless, skinless breast. I normally buy with bone and skin
 
Jay
@derobert im almost positive bonesless thigh will be more expensive even after factoring out the weigh of the bone
 
@Jay Wait, weren't you saying that "healthy" makes the breast sell for more? /me is confused
 
Jay
@derobert I also said it was more expensive because it was easier to work with(no bones)
 
8 mins ago, by Jay
@derobert Because in america, something that has a healthy connotation will make it more expensive.
@Jay you have to wait longer than 8 minutes before playing Gaslight, even with a mushroom. At least 10.
10 minutes would probably work.
 
Jay
6:27 PM
7 mins ago, by Jay
And honestly, americans are lazy(im one of them) and chicken breast is a lot easier to work with
 
Ah! Now I understand. You assume breast is by default boneless/skinless, and thigh by default is bone-in, skin-on. Ok. Now it makes sense. And I guess, really, that assumption is true for most everyone...
 
Jay
@derobert I mean thats what ive seen for the most part in my groceries stores
I have seen skin on breast but never bone on breast
 
Wow
Really, they don't sell split checken breasts at your local grocery stores????
wow
Actually, I've never seen skin on, but boneless chicken
 
@derobert That's the case here.
However, we can buy whole chickens, and the skin and bones from the breast are included of course.
 
@Jay Are you sure that skin-on breast doesn't include the bone as well?
 
Jay
6:32 PM
@derobert i am sure
 
@Mien yeah, buying a chicken whole is also the cheapest way, even though Costco now charges 99¢/lb (used to be 89¢/lb)
1.64€/kg, according to google.
... up from 1.48
 
Hmmm, I don't know price per kg.
 
@Jay Wow. What do people grill with there.
 
Here, they mostly sell them per piece.
€4.5 for the smallest one, I think.
But they are prepared.
I don't know the price for raw whole chicken.
 
Jay
@derobert steaks! huge meaty delicous steaks
and ribs
 
6:36 PM
@Mien ah, so the chickens at Costco are around 5lb, so that'd be €3.35 for a chicken
@Mien though they come in two-packs (this is Costco after all)
Raw, unprepared (except for slaughtering and cleaning the guts out, of course)
... and we don't have VAT, so I guess you'd have to add that in to compare
@Jay steaks and ribs are good, but you don't do any chicken?
@Jay PA is a weird place.
Oh, also, I think I'm going to get a Sous Vide Supreme Demi. Haven't gotten a new cooking toy in a while.
... though Costco currently has a nice bundle, so I'll get it there.
 
Jay
@derobert i've personally never grilled chicken
 
@Jay ::shock::
@Jay grill more chickens, and fewer mushrooms :-P
 
Jay
@derobert but grilled portobellos are soooo good
 
@Jay oh, well, Agaricus bisporus and I currently aren't on so good terms. So actually, eat as many of them as you want. Preferably, all of them.
 
Anyway, party time.
Have a good weekend everyone!
 
Jay
6:47 PM
@Mien go wild whoooo
have fun
 
@Mien have fun
 
Thx :) It won't be very wild though.
 
7:25 PM
@derobert Jeez, my next cooking toy was going to be... a mortar and pestle or something.
or maybe some pyrex measuring cups. Your toys are expensive!
 
7:54 PM
sometimes I wish these rooms weren't logged
and google indexed :-\
 
@hobodave Uh oh, what'd you say?
 
8:16 PM
nothing
I just want to talk about a job offer and I don't want it to ever be found
lame
 
8:42 PM
Ah, yeah, that's unfortunate.
 
9:36 PM
I already have a mortar and pestle :-P
And a full set of measuring cups (which I hardly ever use, because I have a scale...)
 
I meant the big ones, multiple cups, mostly for liquids.
 
@Jefromi I have those... I have ½ cup, 1 cup, 2 cup, 4 cup, and 8 cup.
Those, as you say, are cheap :-P
 
I know scales are hot right now but I still measure plenty of things that are perfectly fine by volume.
 
@Jefromi I do almost everything I can by weight. Often leads to dishes to clean up. Quicker, too.
Very small things are the exception, possibly because I don't have a centrigram scale. ½ t salt is easier with the measuring spoon...
 
I'm thinking about things like 1/2 cup milk, 2 cups buttermilk, ...
Besides, they're for mixing and heating too, not just measuring.
 
9:51 PM
Oh, I'd do those by weight normally. E.g., if you make something by weight, often you only need one bowl. Sometimes two. Do it by volume, and you get your one or two bowls, a pile of measuring cups, etc.
 
meh you can measure all the volumes like that in the same thing too
 
You can, but its often hard—e.g., if you try it with the large 2qt measure, its hard to measure those ½ cups accurately at all. 5kg scale doesn't have that problem. Just tare it, and continue.
 
Yeah, I guess.
It's really not a huge difference, though, and as soon as you have a recipe that says 1/2 cup oil instead of 109 grams...
 
But, yeah, there are times I use my measuring cups. E.g., I wind up using them for ice cream (I guess, because I've never bothered to convert the recipe, and also I can't put the pot on the scale since its over heat)
I bet if I converted it, it'd be faster still though. I mean, pouring a liquid into a cup, waiting for it to settle down, adding/removing a little, takes time
... and kneeling down, since mine are the read-from-side type, not read-from-top
I suspect e.g., the OXO read-from-top measuring cup may be much nicer...
 
Yeah, those are nice - but I like being able to put things in the microwave or oven.
 
10:00 PM
I have that @derobert I love it
 
@derobert we use those at the cooking school
 
I nuke mine for small periods of time
 
@Jefromi you put your measuring cups in the oven
 
but I have a glass one if I need to do some serious heating
 
Not that often, but the pyrex kind are oven-safe, yeah.
 
10:01 PM
Oven-safe is nice, every once and a while.
 
I tend to go for general use stuff, rather than the perfect thing for every single task, anyway.
 
@Jefromi well, I'm surprised you don't use a scale then. It can measure both liquids and powders (and solids too), all accurately
@hobodave Cooks Illustrated says you can nuke non-oils, for up to 4 minutes. No idea what Oxo says.
 
@derobert I'll get around to it eventually for some things. But seriously, if I'm cooking from a recipe, it's probably not by weight anyway. I live in the US. I don't want to spend all my time converting.
 
@Jefromi I just printed off a chart of common conversions and magneted it to my fridge. That helps a fair bit. Other than that, I'll often only bother really converting things after I've decided I'm going to cook the recipe again.
Once I've decided its a good enough recipe to be worth making more than once, I'll either realize it doesn't really need measuring (e.g., I'll make it by taste), that it doesn't have enough measuring to be worth the bother, or go ahead and convert it to weight.
and like I said, I find that the tiny measurements (e.g., 1T or smaller) are still easier with the spoons. At least for things where accuracy can be off a little.
So, I'm not measuring out the oregano with a scale, generally.
 
I rarely measure anything
 
10:12 PM
@tastefive well, I bake, so, you sort of have to. But yeah, depends on what you cook
 
@derobert yep, I am no baker
 
(though, yeah, when doing non-baking, I like cook-by-taste too)
 
and I should say I rarely measure anything at home. Commercial enviroment is much different
 
@tastefive I guess in a restaurant consistency is more important? Or is it just the larger batch sizes?
 
@derobert its more about controlling costs.
 
10:16 PM
So I guess that means you measure the proteins & other expensive ingredients then? Never cooked in a commercial environment personally. But I'd guess the salt & pepper don't really matter to the bottom line.
or is it a time thing, its quicker?
 
@derobert salt and pepper is about the only thing not weighed or measured
well that and finishing herbs/oil/garnish
 
Yeah, I don't actually measure much either. Baking and crêpes and pancakes and all that jazz.
 
I guess, if you're selling a 12 oz steak, the customer gets pissed if its 10oz, and the manager/owner if its 14?
 
@derobert I'm not sure I could tell if I'd been shorted two ounces, but steaks definitely aren't my specialty.
 
@Jefromi that and more than likely the weight listed on the menu is prior to cooking.
 
10:22 PM
@tastefive I've never heard of anyone listing post-cooking weight for a steak. That'd be pretty odd.
I mean, it'd be a PITA to pull off. Not to mention, a 12oz finished rare would start a different weight than 12oz medium or (WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?) well-done.
 
@derobert that is my point it is very hard for the customer to say just how heavy a steak started.
 
@tastefive well, cooking weight loss isn't that large for rare or medium-rare (and isn't that variable). I suspect starting with a cut 20% too small would be noticeable.
 
@derobert maybe, but I am not sure if the average person would notice.
 
@tastefive Oh, I'd guess the average person wouldn't.
 
But you'd bring your scale?
 
10:29 PM
lol
that would be hilarious
 
@Jefromi no, I think I've just eaten way too many steaks :-P
@tastefive that would be, wonder what kind of looks you'd get in a restaurant weighing everything before eating it.
 
Yeah, you wouldn't make friends.
 
When anyone asks, tell them you're just curious. And don't complain about any of the weights. I suspect you'd only have to visit the restaurant twice before everyone would "know" you (here comes the loony...)
 
for sure
 
I'm imagining someone taking the patty out of a fully assembled hamburger to weigh it...
 
10:32 PM
LOL
 
ha
 
Oooh. If you were young enough, you could say its a project for school. Then people would probably not even complain.
 
excuse me, but how do you expect me to properly weigh this patty with all this melted cheese on it.
 
Make sure to separately measure and record the mayo!
@tastefive I have seen someone order the burger fully un-assembled. Thankfully, he didn't have a scale.
 
I've seen someone order four junior burgers, nothing but the meat, and he really meant it - he was a bit annoyed that they gave him buns.
(I think he said that the junior burgers were thinner so they were cooked more thoroughly?)
 
10:36 PM
LOL. Seems like he'd just ask the burger to be cooked longer.
 
@Jefromi he could have had a wheat alergy
 
But yeah, no buns isn't that weird, could be wheat allergy or gluten intolerance or being on one of those low-carb diets.
 
@tastefive Pretty sure it was neither allergy nor diet. He was just a little quirky.
Also this was at a Wendy's.
 
I think some people do weird things like that sometimes just because they get attention from it. "look at me I'm weird"
 
Yeah. Or just to mess with the fast food place.
 
10:39 PM
I used to work at Wendy's :). Do you know the official response that a Wendy's employee is supposed to say when they are asked "why are your patties square?"
 
no, I've never asked...
I just figured the machine to make square patties was 1% cheaper.
 
"It's because at Wendy's, we never cut corners"
 
Wow. Wonder how long it took marketing to come up with that one.
... or how much they paid the consultant
 
My question back was "Why are the buns round then?"
 
or, wait, don't circles not have any corners?
would be nice if they had square buns, then it'd actually fit together properly :-P
Interesting. If you put square patties into Google, you get plenty of interesting in the watch-the-train-wreck meaning Yahoo Answers posts.
 
10:45 PM
Among other things, I really love how Yahoo Answers has all these answers that are actually comments, and then they'll get chosen as best answer.
 
Sweet, got to love when the new wine shipment comes in
 
Jay
@derobert what kind of answer do you really expect for a question like that...
 
@Jay well, the question was a joke, and the answer too. Then you get the random people answering who don't get it. watch-the-train-wreck
And in the background, you can faintly hear Jeff Atwood crying about making the Internet worse.
 
Jay
@derobert people are stupid
 
10:52 PM
anyone playing SWTOR
 
Doesn't seem so!
 
NP, just was wondering what people thaught about it if they were
 
11:18 PM
Okay what's with California calling poblanos pasillas?
Apparently it's all the California produce industry's fault - they call them pasillas, then they get distributed elsewhere...
How'd they manage to get it wrong?
 
I'm glad someone else edited the Yellow Croaker title. I really wanted to, but I backed off on account of it seeming too anal.
 
Maybe I should ask that on the main site...
"I don't know, can you?"
 

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