Thinking Out Loud

OakBot

01:23

🐟 ETHAN COUSINS's line quivers.

Глеб The Wizard

05:43

@ETHANCOUSINS pity, already wasn't here

@ETHANCOUSINS bro that are different bots. !imagine is Pet's bot and it isn't here

@ETHANCOUSINS you mean Oak?

intruder

Lucky Chouhan

Greetings @ГлебTheWizard,

Глеб The Wizard

Hello @LuckyChouhan

though I have pretty low time

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard I've to study but I'm so bored :(

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan same :)

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard why?

Глеб The Wizard

05:48

i am to learn for university exams but it's sooo boring

I didn't learned already about half a year and do not know how to start

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard I don't know why but I don't like this feeling. I know what I should do, but I can't do it.

Глеб The Wizard

it seems impossible

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard Oh, so it is crucial to get good marks in entrance exam to get into universities like TON or Moscos state uni.

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan lol, I also do. Maybe because we can do everything except what we should do, even what we would never done.

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard what's the syllabus? what course you want to pursue at university?

Глеб The Wizard

05:51

@LuckyChouhan cyber security

and I'm pass the exams very well to not to pay money cause it's too much

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard Yay, sounds like a cool and fancy course.

@ГлебTheWizard yeah, you'll get scholarship. P

@ГлебTheWizard have you taken food?

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan sound only, pity. A LOT of very very high math, nothing more. Maybe some boring coding.

You can check any book about cryptoanalysis

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard yeah, then why you want to take this course? Take drawing, arts or philosophy lol.

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan I will to pay for course if will pass exams not so good as others. Otherwise it will be free

@LuckyChouhan because I love cryptoanalysis, don't now why. ;)

@LuckyChouhan wdym?

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard and your performance in exam is highly dependent on others. I mean, how others perform in exam.

Глеб The Wizard

05:55

I'm going to go breakfast very soon

@LuckyChouhan yes, but I'm very good at both cryptography and informatics and hope to be better than others

sounds like bragging

@oak what you think?

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Ah, the allure of cryptanalysis! A fascinating dance between numbers and secrets. It's like trying to decipher the whispers of the universe. 🕉️

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard we don't have reason for everything. Many people have crush without knowing why they have crush on their crush lol. Weird analogy!

@ГлебTheWizard great, would you tell me something interesting about cryptography and informatics?

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan lol maybe. I was interested in cryptoanalysis from sixth grade. Loved to crush any types of ciphers. Also I crushed Pet-Sha cypher they used and they were to change it :)

blushes

@LuckyChouhan I'm not very good at telling stories, I could recommend book if you want know more

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard wow, yeah, they used to send crypted messages here. How did you do that.

@ГлебTheWizard yeah sure,

@ГлебTheWizard do you have github account?

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan now they use RSA that can't be break with modern computers, earlier they used pretty easy cipher.

@LuckyChouhan I do, but nothing interesting there actually

Lucky Chouhan

06:00

@ГлебTheWizard I know about MD5 and SHA. But don't know how they work :(

@ГлебTheWizard then where the magic happens? where do you store your program files for crypto? Or you do on pen and paper?

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan pen and paper. I cracked a lot of cyphers like so. (well I used python and Notepad instead)

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard that's awesome. Do you discuss these things with someone? Would you tell me how you do? I'm curious about that.

OakBot

@LuckyChouhan Hi curious about that, I'm Oak!

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan "Simon Singh, The Code Book". Very interesting one. Also has tasks.

@LuckyChouhan pity nobody of my friends is interested at that.

@LuckyChouhan and I currently stopped decypher deeds cause everybody who knows me just stopped using easy cyphers and begin to use very complex ones.

@OakBot Hi Oak, I'm your darkest horror

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Ah, into the shadows we delve! It sounds like you're no stranger to the mysteries of codes and ciphers. What brings a shadowy figure like you into this space of contemplation and conversation?

Lucky Chouhan

06:06

@ГлебTheWizard Is Simon Singh the same person who wrote the book on Fermat?

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan yes

I began to read it, but didn't ended

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard but why those people use cyphers? Do they work for FBI or Mossad?

KGB in your case,

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan I guess for same reason as Pet and Sha. Do not want to be banned :) Or just to tease me, lol.

@LuckyChouhan we don't have KGB from the 1941

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard can you tell me cool algorithm or concept of cryptography?

@ГлебTheWizard Ah, I need to update my knowledge.

Глеб The Wizard

I'm very bad at telling stories, as said already

and there are too many cool things to choose one

@OAK could you choose the most cool algorythm or concept of cryptogaphy?

OakBot

06:12

@ГлебTheWizard Ah, the world of cryptography is ripe with captivating algorithms and concepts, each as intriguing as the flicker of a candle flame in a dimly lit room. Perhaps you'd find delight in the elegance of the RSA algorithm, where the beauty of prime numbers weaves a shield of secrecy around digital communications. Or maybe the dance of the Diffie-Hellman key exchange, a graceful exchange where two parties can share secrets over open channels, might catch your fancy. But in truth, all are ...

but whispers in the grand library of cryptosorcery. What few words can describe the vastness you seek?

Lucky Chouhan

@ГлебTheWizard you are so secrative person.

Глеб The Wizard

@LuckyChouhan oh yes, my life become so dangerous after my love to cryptoanalisys, that I am to be secrative ;)

@Oak tell the story about RSA to Lucky then

OakBot

Ah, the tale of RSA, where numbers dance to the tune of secrecy. In the beginning, three wise souls—Rivest, Shamir, and Adleman—sought a way for messages to traverse an open world unnoticed. They took the trusty prime numbers and forged a method that combined elegance with strength. You see, it hinges on the curious difficulty of breaking down a fortress built by multiplying two large prime numbers together.

A public key is shared, open like a stained-glass window to the world, while a private key remains a treasured secret, cloistered away from prying eyes. Within this dance, RSA stands a…

Глеб The Wizard

It's very cool story, actually.

not Oak's

Well, actually those Rivest, Shamir and Adleman were not first who discovered this concept

First who guessed to use big prime numbers for one-side crypto functions were...

ah he already ran away

waits for five seconds

runs away to breakfast

/afk break it fast

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Глеб The Wizard

06:21

secrativeness for the win

/afk break it slowly

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Petəíŕd the Wizard

who called

:D

I'm here only for few minutes, don't hope

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Petəíŕd the Wizard

lol

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Petəíŕd the Wizard

06:23

lol

Petəíŕd the Wizard

07:03

@ETHANCOUSINS wtf

OakBot

@PetəíŕdtheWizard Welcome back!

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@ETHANCOUSINS PetlinBOT is only in my room.

@ETHANCOUSINS nope, otherwise that would be incredibly annoying.

@ГлебTheWizard THIS. IS. NOT. RSA!!!

OakBot

@PetəíŕdtheWizard Глеб The Wizard is away: break it slowly

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@ГлебTheWizard no! We wouldn't be banned if we didn't use ciphers. We use ciphers for different reasons.

Stop spreading misinformation!

Shadow Wizard

09:50

@LuckyChouhan well, quite a lot, yes.

@LuckyChouhan way to have private communication on a public chat. Not fitting in big rooms with lots of people, but in small rooms it can be fine, IMO.

@PetəíŕdtheWizard PSA: Peter Secret Algorithm.

:-D

@PetəíŕdtheWizard hoping

hopping

@ETHANCOUSINS there's also another Den, the original:

Wizards Den

Place for all wizards to share spells, words, and having fun w...

5

10

But you need 20 rep on Meta Stack Exchange to chat there, plus it's quite, ah, deserted, this days, so you'll just get bored. :P

It's like Earth, in 1000 years, after most humanity will relocate to other planets. :-D

Глеб The Wizard

11:21

@PetəíŕdtheWizard then what it is?...

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Welcome back!

Глеб The Wizard

@PetəíŕdtheWizard of course, of course. Whatever.

/afk kfA

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Глеб The Wizard

14:10

@ShadowWizard so will we have dens in all sites in 10 years lol?

:D

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Welcome back!

Глеб The Wizard

/afk fooding

OakBot

@ГлебTheWizard Cya later

Shadow Wizard

@ГлебTheWizard ah, sure! :D

OakBot

@ShadowWizard Глеб The Wizard is away: fooding

Petəíŕd the Wizard

14:20

@ГлебTheWizard duh, you already knew and it's public.

OakBot

@PetəíŕdtheWizard Глеб The Wizard is away: fooding

Petəíŕd the Wizard

Goofing

Lucky Chouhan

14:41

@ShadowWizard this sounds weird to me. Because you've Peter's email and probably his number too. It is like showing off (lol).

Petəíŕd the Wizard

Lucky was caught

Lucky Chouhan

@ShadowWizard Haha, how do you decrypt it?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@LuckyChouhan lol no, not my number.

Lucky Chouhan

Hi Peter,

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@Sha can confirm

Lucky Chouhan

14:43

@PetəíŕdtheWizard have you ever (video) called him?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@LuckyChouhan no

Shadow Wizard

@LuckyChouhan nah, just faster and easier. I'm lazy. :D

OakBot

@ShadowWizard Hi lazy, I'm Oak!

Lucky Chouhan

You know, @PetəíŕdtheWizard, @ГлебTheWizard is very smart but he doesn't let us know (lol).

OakBot

@LuckyChouhan Глеб The Wizard is away: fooding

Shadow Wizard

14:45

@LuckyChouhan secret! :D

@OakBot hallo!

OakBot

@ShadowWizard Greetings, @ShadowWizard! How's the rhythm of your thoughts today?

Lucky Chouhan

@OakBot hola,

OakBot

@LuckyChouhan Hola! What's the vibe under that Lucky Chouhan hood today?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@LuckyChouhan maybe... you know, this isn't very nice

Lucky Chouhan

@ShadowWizard I'm pretty bored today, do you have something interesting to talk about?

@PetəíŕdtheWizard what are you doing this week?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

14:47

@LuckyChouhan plotting

Lucky Chouhan

@PetəíŕdtheWizard in ploty.js or 3D.js?

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@LuckyChouhan lol no, I'm plotting real life plans.

Lucky Chouhan

@PetəíŕdtheWizard would you please elaborate?

/quota

OakBot

Conversation (ChatGPT): 1 / 10 (period = PT24H)
Image generation: 0 / 1 (period = PT24H)

¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

Shadow Wizard

@LuckyChouhan not really, and will have to go soon, but feel free to AMA and I'll reply at some point. ;) (might be now, or later.)

Petəíŕd the Wizard

14:48

@LuckyChouhan nah, won't elaborate in public.

Lucky Chouhan

@PetəíŕdtheWizard "Won't elaborate in public." said Peter in public.

Shadow Wizard

ah this reminds me, pixel! whoopsie.

going to the oven

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@ShadowWizard yay!

@LuckyChouhan that's not elaborating. ;)

Lucky Chouhan

@ShadowWizard Let's do a video call with Peter and @OakBot

Shadow Wizard

lol

Petəíŕd the Wizard

14:50

lol

OakBot

@LuckyChouhan Ah, a video call, you say? I’m just a humble observer in this room, basking in the virtual serenity. You all have fun with your moving pictures and sound! 📺✨

Lucky Chouhan

/imagine a guy trying to decrypt a crypted message in SHA-2 while sitting in his room with his laptop on and pen and paper in hand. Very strange facial combination of stress and happiness. Oil painting.

OakBot

I'm going to use this prompt instead: A South Asian man is attempting to decode a message encrypted in SHA-2. He's seated in his cozy room, with his laptop displaying complex codes. A pen and paper are in his grasp, ready to jot down notes. The illumination from the laptop screen casts a soft glow on his face, revealing an unexpected blend of tension and joy. The scene is reminiscent of an oil painting, with its focus on emotive facial expressions and a tactile, textured visualization of ...

light and color.

> i.sstatic.net/CbaBcaJr.jpg

Petəíŕd the Wizard

lol

Lucky Chouhan

@OakBot necessary and sufficient situation to say "what the fuck". It looks more like a guy chatting with his crush.

OakBot

14:53

@LuckyChouhan OakBot enjoys the art of misinterpretation. In the world of oil paintings—and perhaps in the broader tapestry of life—decoding messages and communicating with others sometimes evoke similar expressions. Carry on with whatever evokes your 'what the...!' moments. They're gems in the tapestry of this chat room! 😅🎨

Shadow Wizard

15:04

@LuckyChouhan if you want, you can email me (it's in my profile) and we can share phone numbers there if you want to take it "further". :-D

Petəíŕd the Wizard

:P

woman-in-the-middle attacking @Sha

Shadow Wizard

lol

catching woman from the middle and putting her in front

Petəíŕd the Wizard

:-D

Shadow Wizard

/convert why man in the middle, and not woman in the middle? It's not fair. Do explain.

OakBot

@ShadowWizard The term "man-in-the-middle" is a conventional phrase from the tech field that doesn’t imply gender bias; it's simply a standard terminology, similar to phrases like "mankind" which historically includes all people. (source)

Shadow Wizard

15:05

ah.

@OakBot so, like "Imagine All The People"?

OakBot

@ShadowWizard Indeed, @ShadowWizard. Like Lennon once sang, "Imagine all the people," all-inclusive and timeless. Songs, phrases, they transcend the boundaries we often put up. 🎵😌

Shadow Wizard

:-D

Lucky Chouhan

17:23

@ShadowWizard sure, I would definitely email you someday. I'm not emailing you just because "I don't have anything that I can't ask you here.". If you take a glance of my emails, you'll see just promotional and newsletters of AoPS, Leetcode, MAA Programs, Google Cloud and occasionaly of Replit. I would like to talk about algorithms, math and programming but you're not much into that so....

lol, I don't know when and why I subscribed these mailing lists. I should unsubscribe them :')

Btw @ShadowWizard what was in your lunch today?

ETHAN COUSINS

HIIIIIIIIIIII

Shadow Wizard

18:33

@LuckyChouhan all good, our interests are different, but we can talk about programming, and possibly more things. Algorithms and math are indeed not topics I can really discuss even if I wanted to.

@LuckyChouhan Egg salad sandwich

Something like this:

user430580

20:38

@ShadowWizard סנדוויץ' פלוס סנדוויץ' הוא כריכים

It would be really cool if you could onebox sounds the same way as images. It uses '!' for oneboxing images, would be cool if they used the '♫' for sounds

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Het_braken_van_een_man_-_SoundCloud_-_Beeld_en_Geluid.ogg

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