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in Mathematics, 16 hours ago, by lyme
Hello. Can someone shorty write why the union of lower limit topology and the upper limit topology isnt a topology?
in Mathematics, 15 hours ago, by Martin Sleziak
The lower limit topology is the one generated by intervals of the form $[a,b)$?
in Mathematics, 15 hours ago, by Martin Sleziak
If the union is a topology, then singletons are open.
in Mathematics, 15 hours ago, by Martin Sleziak
It seems as a sufficient argument. Singletons are open neither in the lower limit nor in the upper limit topology.
in Mathematics, 15 hours ago, by lyme
@MartinSleziak can we say its bacause ie $(-\infty,5)\cup(6,\infty)$ and $(-3,\infty)\cup(-\infty,7)$ are in in $\tau_1 \cup \tau_2$ but intersection of these two subset $(-3,5)\cup (6,7)$ isnt in $\tau_1 \cup \tau_2$
in Mathematics, 14 hours ago, by Martin Sleziak
@lyme What I meant was that $\{1\}=(0,1]\cap[1,2)$ is an intersection of two sets from $\tau_1\cup \tau_2$, but it does not belong to $\tau_1\cup \tau_2$ itself.
in Mathematics, 8 hours ago, by lyme
sorry for interrupting @MartinSleziak thanks. can yuou tell me how can we optain $(0,1]$ and $[1,2) \in \tau_{left}\cup \tau_{right}$ I cant because my book defined these top. as $\tau_r:=\{R,\emptyset\}\cup \{(a,\infty)|a\in \Bbb R\}$ and $\tau_l:=\{R,\emptyset\}\cup \{(-\infty,b)|b\in \Bbb R\}$ so I think $\tau_{left}\cup \tau_{right}$ units should be like $(-\infty,b)\cup (a,\infty)$
I cant because my book defined these top. as $\tau_r:=\{R,\emptyset\}\cup \{(a,\infty)|a\in \Bbb R\}$ and $\tau_l:=\{R,\emptyset\}\cup \{(-\infty,b)|b\in \Bbb R\}$ so I think $\tau_{left}\cup \tau_{right}$ units should be like $(-\infty,b)\cup (a,\infty)$
Well, what you wrote as $\tau_r$ is not a topology. Just notice that $\bigcup\limits_{a>0} (a,\infty)=[0,\infty)$, so $\tau_r$ is not closed under unions.
Wikipedia article mentions that for lower limit topology the base is formed by all intervals $[a,b)$.
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29 mins ago, by Martin Sleziak
Well, what you wrote as $\tau_r$ is not a topology. Just notice that $\bigcup\limits_{a>0} (a,\infty)=[0,\infty)$, so $\tau_r$ is not closed under unions.
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The "official" definition of a quasi-topological space seems to be en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasitopological_space, but M. Ziegler in "Topological Model Theory" defines a quasitopology on A to be a set of subsets closed under arbitrary unions.
Yes, that's the text I'm referring to. He does this, because most of his results generalize to this setting. However, at least the name seem misguided to me, because it already has another definition, and because this sort of space feels quite different from a topological space. Consider products of spaces to see an example. I wonder whether semi-topology would be a better name for such a structure.
It will be difficult to find any name that does not have an assigned meaning. Google: "semi-topological space".
So he's just saying something like: This is the setting where everything from previous sections works. But no details are given there, right?
In fact answer to this question gives a different description of quasi-topology: Is an “open system” just a topological space?. (At least if the proof in the answer is correct.)
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