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TildalWave

17:01

@Adnan too late :P you were extremely lucky nobody else caught it till now, tho :))

@Adnan I'm not sure English counts as a second language when you use it more or less all the time. I bet you even dream in English sometimes. Some words (and some concepts) are just untranslatable ;)

IMHO 'developer' is not a career. At least not by itself, most of my friends can write C and Java reasonably well, and none of them are computer-science sector people, they are engineers and mathematicians. You need to start adding real proficiencies to your belt; these could be in security (pentesting, forensics, RE), in enterprise computing (redhat), in data/information retrieval (NLP and genetic algorithms), etc etc. 'Development' is a given, it is expected of you by default. Pick a discipline. — lynks 2 hours ago

@lynks If you could convert this to an answer I'd give it a +1 that actually counts

@TerryChia Congrats!

makerofthings7

17:54

@ScottPack You picked my family's Scottish plaid ... it should make anyone feel better. Our family got run out of Scotland for protecting a Campbell from being attacked from his own. (at least that is what history says)

Scott Pack

18:13

@makerofthings7 Really, I picked it because it's what the Black Watch uses. It also happens to be Campbell. :)

makerofthings7

Wow.. so similar en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Lamont

Clan Campbell

Clan Campbell is a Highland Scottish clan. Historically one of the larger of the Highland clans, their lands were in Argyll and the chief of the clan became the Earl and later Duke of Argyll. History Origins The earliest attested Campbell is Gilleasbaig of Menstrie (floruit 1260s), father of Cailean Mór, from whom the chiefs of the clan are thought to have taken their style MacCailean Mór. The byname kambel is recorded at this time. Fanciful reconstructions derive it from the Spanish de Campo Bello, but the likely source is the caimbeul, an Early Modern Irish or Gaelic by name meanin...

When the Lamonts and Campbells fought it must have been very difficult to tell each other apart on the plaid battlefield of destruction

Scott Pack

I thought clan tartans largely post-dated the age of clan warfare?

Thomas Pornin

@ScottPack What ? Scottish clan warfare has stopped ?

Scott Pack

@ThomasPornin Your poutine is getting cold.

David

morning

TildalWave

19:09

hehe I had to Google that b'cos I read it all wrong at first :))

@David morning ;) (it's dusk here)

MMavipc

12:12 here

Scott Pack

15:13 UCT

TildalWave

@ScottPack UCT? Universal College Time?

Scott Pack

Universal Chat Time. Currently symlinked to EST5EDT

TildalWave

@ScottPack I'm getting my local time, but that could be b'cos of that chat extension plugin

Thomas Pornin

19:28

@TildalWave Even in photo, it is repulsive.

TildalWave

@ThomasPornin Agreed, but it wasn't me suggesting you would touch that. Looks like cat's vomit

Iszi

19:56

WTF is this? A cat, in a shark suit, on a Roomba, chasing a duck?

M'vy

20:18

I think I just saw this on twitter @Iszi

Oh wait...

you did tweet that

Iszi

@M'vy That was awesome.

TildalWave

20:51

Who decides what questions appear in the can you answer these? section in the newsletter? Or is that automated based on last three unanswered questions? I ask, because I think the choice this week is poor and probably all three belong to SO, SF or SU even. One is a programming question (about implementing security, true - but nonetheless a programming question for SO), one is about not understanding declared classes in open-source (SO) and one about IPSEC on Win7 (SF, SU?)

Iszi

@TildalWave SEI usually keeps the "secret sauce" for these things pretty well obfuscated.

TildalWave

@Iszi this = idea! :)

@Iszi Other questions are actually moderated or it's automated as well? (in the newsletter)

Iszi

I don't even get the newsletter, so I've hardly a clue what you're talking about. But as far as stuff that determines whether questions show up in search results, get tweeted, or other special stuff happens - that's what SEI usually doesn't tell.

TildalWave

OK, so if we want the newsletter to be better top to bottom, I propose we leave 3 good questions unanswered each week and for a week. Because there simply aren't that good questions among the unanswered IMO, so that part of the newsletter will always be inverse in quality to the website.

@ThomasPornin You always have some good answers among the selected questions for the newsletter, did you notice any increase in voting on your answers once the newsletter is out?

M'vy

21:19

The best approach would be, as usual, to give it to the community. Maybe the newsletter question could be pre-selected and user could vote to remove bad questions?

Ladadadada

21:47

Interesting... that semi-spammer for clickssl... actively removing links to competing services: webmasters.stackexchange.com/posts/19701/revisions

And again and this which is strange.

CodesInChaos

why the hell were these edits accepted?

especially the last one is really weird

Ladadadada

Unfortunately, gamifying reviews can backfire. Some people just blindly click "Approve" to everything. That's why those annoying little "tests" have started appearing in the review queues.

MMavipc

QOTW author selection in 7 mins

CodesInChaos

two of those were approved by a diamond

scmagazineUK - Information security product of the year - CipherCloud Gateway

Ladadadada

22:10

@CodesInChaos Well, if it worked as advertised, it would be an amazing product.

CodesInChaos

Depends on your definition of "as advertised"

Ladadadada

@CodesInChaos Yeah, in this case I'm talking about the promises, not the demo. :-P

CodesInChaos

For example a homophonic cipher should have many of the claimed promises (apart from being secure)

It's searchable, not deterministic, doesn't have a 1:1 mapping

Thomas Pornin

@TildalWave I don't receive the newsletter so I don't have information to correlate.

Besides, I tend to assume that people upvoting my answers is just the normal way of the Universe.

TildalWave

22:39

@ThomasPornin It's sent out on Tuesdays at around 8pm GMT, but I don't know how many are actually subscribed to it, maybe mods know? I find it useful most of the times because they would have some questions/answers listed that I've missed, but I'm only subscribed to Sec.SE one so far. Just curious what impact they have. You believe there's anything normal about our Universe? I find it utterly suspicious :)

Ladadadada

@CodesInChaos CipherCloud's response is basically this:

FAA/Honeywell/Rockwell: "That hack won't work on real airplanes". Me: "Ok, so can I test it on a real plane?". Them: "No".

Tweeted by ErrataRob on April 11, 2013 at 10:49 PM

TildalWave

@CodesInChaos Pardon my ignorance, it's not my field of research, but homophonic cipher is searchable? Aren't these all about lowering the ciphertext variance to prevent pattern detection? Or something like that... but how do you search on such ciphertext then? Wouldn't you have to build a (probably) large table of all possible values on each sought after term? Just curious ;)

@Ladadadada OK but this response is actually reasonable even if their claims were true. They simply can't say yes to the last question for more reasons than just possibly being hackable. That tweet is still funny tho :)

David

22:55

LOL ismytwitterpasswordsecure.com

Ladadadada

Awww... ismytwitterpasswordsecure.com/account/resend_password