The DMZ

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ThoriumBR

00:54

is the room empty?
no, nobody is there...
so it's empty!
no, nobody is there.

nobody

ThoriumBR

tomorrow I can spend a few days at the office again. Since pre-covid I am working from home, so it's a good change for a few days

I don't look like my face on the badge anymore, hope security don't mind

nobody

they check the face?

ThoriumBR

I don't know, it's been more than a decade since I went to this office...

a lot of things changed

@JourneymanGeek this part: autopublic.org/en/carpart/…

my team meets once a year in a bar to eat something, talk and see each other... when we arrive, one by one, it reminds me of that scene on Skyrim where you define your char with Ralof asking: "and you? who are you?"

and the next one is in a month... manager pays your tab up to a value, but I doubt I can reach half of it...

nobody

@ThoriumBR I know this is old, but I just want to add, you don't need to be worth that much yourself to be targeted with million dollar exploit. Economy of scales can apply to zero days too, so you just need to be part of a group of people that's worth over a million dollars to someone.

That said, even in that case, no one is going to bother with arcane persistent malware. Its much cheaper to just reinfect a valuable target every time they wipe.

ThoriumBR

01:07

@nobody didn't thought of that... someone with access to a valuable target can be the receiving end of a 0-day... like the secretary of a CEO... she isn't worth a million, but her boss is.

@nobody and usually a 0-day isn't something an unsuspecting target would easily notice

nobody

@ThoriumBR Yeah, or like an authoritarian regime might consider it valuable to target a "problem" group with a million dollar zero day, since it makes sense when the cost is spread over a group of thousands.

@ThoriumBR exactly

@nobody I think the chinese did it with the Uighurs and iphone zero days at some point.

ThoriumBR

I believe it... they could even ship pre-loaded zero days if they wanted to

time to get to bed... tomorrow I have to walk half an hour to catch a bus to travel one hour to the office

nobody

good night!

1 hour later…

security_paranoid

02:13

@nobody the more people we have “chatting” here the better! nobody is better than negative-one-body!

Journeyman Geek

02:40

@security_paranoid I have a theory that you need at least half a dozen regulars and no more than about 20 for a good, lively chatroom

too many and there's noise. Too little and the chat dosen't flow

1 hour later…

security_paranoid

04:02

@JourneymanGeek hmm, interesting. I see where you’re coming from. Then again, The DMZ would still probably benefit from a few more people

It’s pretty limited in chatters as it is

Journeyman Geek

Yup

I mean I've opined on some of these problems at length :D

security_paranoid

Right

Chats are hard, always will be

8 hours later…

ThoriumBR

12:07

don't know if you guys are old enough to remember IRC... my city had a small provider that hosted an IRC server, and every night people that weren't sleeping hang on that server... it was 20 years ago, it was fun.

I got an IRC client last year, got to the server, and only the guardian bots were connected. got to an once popular channel and was the only one, so I got operator and fulfilled my dream of being operator of the most popular channel on the server

2 hours later…

ThoriumBR

14:11

sharing a service I use: https://notica.us/

it's a website, you open on your browser and it creates a "channel" for you... you add `notica() { curl --data "d:$*" "https://notica.us/?your-channel-id" ; }` on your bashrc, and run `notica upgrade finished` on any server you have, and you get a desktop notification on your browser.

it's very useful to be reminded when something that takes time finishes, without having to install anything.

you can run the same "channel" on multiple browsers, or multiple people, so everyone gets the same message when someone notifies something

8 hours later…

security_paranoid

22:33

I am too young to remember IRC. I know what it is.

I’ll have to check out notica… I don’t really get what it does though?

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