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Terry Chia

02:23

@RoryAlsop I don't have a kindle. :P Maybe I should get one soon. Reading text heavy materials on an iPhone is a pain on the eyes.

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Tom Leek

15:00

@TerryChia IPHONES ARE FOR SHOWING OFF, NOT FOR DOING ANYTHING USEFUL.

Terry Chia

@TomLeek Showing off and being useful aren't mutually exclusive. Besides, they aren't much more expensive than any top of the line android phones. ;)

AviD

@TerryChia why do you think android phones are top of the line? ;-)

well, maybe, until October 26th.

Terry Chia

@AviD "top of the line android phones" translates to the best phones with android on it. i never said they are good. ;)

Never really liked android.

Windows phones might be interesting though.

AviD

@TerryChia I'm enjoying my 7.5 very much. WP8 should probably mature it even further.

quick comparison dig before I drop off:

iPhone is like having one of those French artists to design your home. Everything is beautiful, but just the way *he* likes it. No matter what you want, you have to get used to it and you will *like* it, dammit.
Android hands you a pile of raw materials and lets you design your home however you want.
Windows Phone is like having an experienced interior designer, who knows how to design things great, but puts *you* in the center of his design.

Gilles

@AviD I had a phone with Windows Phone something on it once. I couldn't figure out how to use it. Fortunately I managed to trade it in for a plain phone.

What about a jailbroken iPhone?

Terry Chia

15:12

Almost every single smartphone out there can perform all the task a normal person will need, be it iOS, android or windows.

fanbois are just stupid.

@Gilles The old windows phones were quite bad. But the new ones are interesting. WP8 should be a great improvement.

Gilles

I don't have a smartphone (for my non-phone needs I prefer a computer). If I got one, it would probably be one with Ubuntu on it, or at least an easily-rooted Android.

(iPhones are expensive, and fail the easily-rooted bit. I don't want to depend on someone breaking Apple's countermeasures.)

I know from experience that if I have a computing device, it takes me about 5 minutes to want to do something that the manufacturer didn't think of

Terry Chia

Heh. My needs from a phone are the usual - sms, calls, contacts. add on web browsing, a good music player and a few game apps. any smartphones can fulfill my needs. I just prefer the iOS interface.

I prefer to do any heavy tinkering on a desktop.

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Rory Alsop

20:54

@Gilles Yep - my best phone ever: Nokia 6210i - best battery life, always had a signal, worked as a phone. My opinion confirmed when I found out all the disaster teams used the same phone

But since having to have a smartphone, so far only android works for my needs

windows annoys me by trying to be windows-y, apple just infuriates me by being generally bad at phone, audio, music but really shiny, and android annoys me a bit until I have reconfigured it to do what I want

Rory Alsop

21:11

@ThomasPornin - the blog post got linked to on gnu.org - gnu.org/software/gnutls/security.html

Gilles

21:22

@RoryAlsop and they also cite a blog post who cites “Thomas Mornin on the Security StackExchange”

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