The DMZ

MechMK1

09:42

I hate OpenVPN

timuzhti

what about

um

wirethingy?

do you hate that too?

Journeyman Geek

10:20

wireguard

ThoriumBR

11:41

wireguard is a good one... it's troublesome to configure the first time, routing was a mess when it first came out (and I don't know if that changed), but it's light and works fine

I use wireshark on my phone every time I got out of home

SPArcheon

12:10

hi @MechMK1. Just dropping by for a rapid question since I know you are interested in this topic. This is something that came up while chatting in another room.

Do you by chance know if there even was any actual case of a gatcha game that was proved to use some "AI" based rigging? Meaning an automatic system that rigs luck for whales players to make them spend more.

nobody

12:42

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Q: How to manage an army of not-really-devs trying to write code for the sake of project management?

We recently adopted a new management methodology that says there are no roles on the team (a "cross-functional" team where "all team members are developers") and everyone should we doing everything so we now have UX designers and QA engineers trying to ship code with some copy paste and online co...

project-management

WTH???

ThoriumBR

answers are hilarious too... one dev that works at the hospital is wondering when nurses start writing code and he starts doing heart surgeries...

Conor Mancone

13:12

@nobody Oh man, that's great

nobody

I'm not even really sure this isn't a troll

I mean, yeah, I know management can be pretty dumb most of the time, but this?

SPArcheon

@nobody trust me, totally plausible.

MechMK1

13:40

@SPArcheon I know something similar happened with EA's FIFA

Can't wait to become cross-functional, where I have to do tasks I am not qualified for.

What even is the supposed gain there? Like, why even do that?

SPArcheon

@MechMK1 I know that EA had that scandal about workers selling rare cards but nothing about actual server side drop rigging to make whales spend more

Journeyman Geek

@ThoriumBR one of the things I want to test/get running eventually is that ;D

MechMK1

@SPArcheon Well, I don't know any concrete cases, sorry. Sometimes FGO feels that way though. I rarely spend money on it, and when I do, I always seem to get 5* cards

ThoriumBR

I have a setup now that have 3 different interfaces and static routes pushed to clients so they can talk to each other

it's a kludge, if I format the server I won't remember how to bubblegum all together again, but it's working

Journeyman Geek

@ThoriumBR oh my current setup is mostly documented on my blog

problem is the next build is going to use netplan (easier to replicate from scratch if the race issue between netplan and dnsmasq dosen't crop up still) - but the whole thing is kinda compartmentalised

ThoriumBR

13:53

I have to create an ansible playbook for that... so I learn both wireguard and ansible at the same time

or create a wizard using bash and zenity

A. Hersean

14:07

I can see where this stupid company policy comes from. A friend is working with a similar policy: in their team, everyone has the same job. The purpose is to train faster the new members (qualified developers) in the specifics of the job (language, frameworks, process, etc.).

I can imagine a stupid higher-up reading on a blog post on LinkedIn that this works well and decides to apply it to the whole company...

Journeyman Geek

14:21

@A.Hersean that's a wierd way of seeing a 'flat' structure with no specialisations

SPArcheon

@MechMK1 Yep, look, I don't play those in the first place. Just curious if anyone actually managed to ever get actual proof of a scam

for example since you mentioned that.

reddit.com/r/OnePieceTC/comments/71ulgr/…

> From what I have access to, there is definitely a mechanism in place that can change the set of rates each individual player is pulling from based on some remote value. It is probably implemented to handle step-up mechanics, but could be used either way.

MechMK1

@SPArcheon Hard to consider "this guy on reddit said so" as hard evidence

SPArcheon

now, the fact that the CLIENT would send the server a "pull frequency variable" that is used to rig the odds against you (the more you spend, the less luck you have and so you sped more" seems utterly stupid....

yet consider that there is a case with actual proof of a company getting caught because the 10 item multi was not random but taken from an array of available 10 item sets so only some combinations were possible (they didn't even scramble the order!)

reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/jvm56y/…

banner taken down because "bug"

yeah.... bug....

(notice that the reddit post links to an actual official twitter post)

MechMK1

@SPArcheon Not saying it's not true, just that I'd prefer seeing some code than just some random claiming his uncle works for Nintendo

SPArcheon

14:38

@MechMK1 I know I know. Alleged that user was a dataminer, yet obviously that is no proof. Anyway I didn't want to claim that happened, I just listed that as a sample or what was in my mind.

Basically, a system that use some sort of "learning" to get targeted users to spend more.

MechMK1

@SPArcheon My verdict is "I have no proof, but I wouldn't be shocked if this is exactly what they did"

SPArcheon

@MechMK1 That is the point and that is why I was looking for cases where that actually happened in the past.

MechMK1

@SPArcheon I don't know of any. The gacha industry is essentially earning unchecked

A. Hersean

Just from my experience with FGO (I started playing a month ago) : 1st time I do a 10x summon (on an event), I get a 5* servant, making me believe that it can happen. All the other ones I did (also on events) and I got nothing of interest, as if to bait me to spend a bit of money to be able to try my luck again.

Also on the "bit of money": what are those prices? There's no way I'll spend that much for a tiny hope of getting a virtual card. I can spend as much on Steam to get a full game of better quality.

SPArcheon

@A.Hersean whales can spend thousand of $ for a single rare drop. Gatcha is funded on exploiting the small userbase that spends a lot.

MechMK1

14:45

Yeah, but Raikou

Who cares about money when you can have Mama Raikou?

I got her in my first 10x roll during her banner

A. Hersean

I got Kama.

@SPArcheon Yeah, I know about wales. But there's no mid tier. I'm not against spending a bit of money for a game that I enjoy. Having a small tier for low value tokens and a wales tier for higher value tokens would intuitively seam smarter.

MechMK1

You see, FGO isn't about stats

It's all about getting that one servant that you're really into

It's essentially a waifu simulator

SPArcheon

@MechMK1 I fear most gatcha are

A. Hersean

@MechMK1 You might have a point.

MechMK1

@SPArcheon Why do you think they're so popular?

Why do you think characters like Raikou from FGO or Atago from Azur Lane are so popular?

A. Hersean

14:51

Too bad I'm not into virtual waifu.

MechMK1

Virtual Waifu is all I have

SPArcheon

and I would not be surprised if that is the reason that made Nintendo jump from Pokemon collection Gatcha to Pokemon MASTERS collection gatcha.

A. Hersean

I just wanted a casual game on my phone.

MechMK1

@A.Hersean And you chose FGO!?

SPArcheon

before you collected pikachus... now you collect the trainers...

MechMK1

14:52

That's like saying you felt a bit tired, so you did a line of cocaine

A. Hersean

@MechMK1 I played F stay/night and saw the anime. So I know the premises of the universe.

MechMK1

Basically modern gacha games

SPArcheon

@A.Hersean Casual... I suggest One Piece Treasure Cruise, from what I saw that probably is one of the most abusive game mechanics on the market.

MechMK1

@A.Hersean Well, enjoy :D

A. Hersean

It also has a bit of strategy that I like. And their take on historical events is entertaining.

MechMK1

14:56

Yeah, especially their interpretation of the American-Irish war

A. Hersean

Not yet done.

MechMK1

Then I won't spoil

Fucking Blackbeard though

A. Hersean

I'm in the pirates chapter.

MechMK1

He literally gave me upskirt photos as a token of appreciation during valentine's day

And Raikou...mama Raikou gave me the best gift of all

She cooked for me <3

A. Hersean

Did it taste good?

And do you have a Raikou pillow? (Please keep the real answer for you, I might not want to know.)

SPArcheon

15:03

Disclaimer: I have a grease monkey UI button macro to scold uncouth replies

MechMK1

Pretending that she hugs me every night is the only form of physical affection I have

I don't know what's so different between me and other people that they deserve to receive love from someone and I don't, but at least I have a pillow, which I can pretend to be a person who loves me.

It may not be the same, but it's all I have

A. Hersean

But did it taste good? Have you tried to replicate it in you kitchen?

@MechMK1 I can count on the faithful support of my right hand.

@SPArcheon Was my reply uncouth enough for you?

SPArcheon

@A.Hersean The idea that the user may not be joking... it fill you with awkwardness

A. Hersean

*fills

^ awkwardness inside

SPArcheon

MechMK1

16:23

Why is the DMZ so depressing? :D

ThoriumBR

18:30

I don't think so

it's dark some times, but usually I like it

nobody

18:58

@MechMK1 Its because everything we ever talk about is depressing. love, politics and security are all depressing topics if you really understand them. Well, maybe not exactly depressing, but pretty gloomy.

MechMK1

19:34

@nobody "The DMZ is depressing because life is"

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Anonymous

@MechMK1 lol, true.

nobody

19:50

@MechMK1 :D, nailed it

So how do we steer the conversation away from life?

Anonymous

Change it to booba.

Anonymous

The only good thing in life.

Anonymous

lul

nobody

That's bound to depress mech currently

plus i'm sure there are other good things in life

MechMK1

21:37

Nah, talk about booba if you want

I don't want to be that guy who dictates what you can and can't talk about

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