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MechMK1

12:38

Are you ready for a sharp decrease in conversation quality?

How do you deal with companies who have a completely warped sense of security? Like saying they don't use well-tested algorithms because they're public? Or they won't encrypt internal traffic so they can analyze it better?

@ConorMancone Holy shit, this is so fucking stupid

@J.J Hey there, old friend

Anonymous

12:53

Hey man, long time no see.

MechMK1

Indeed, indeed. How has life been treating you?

Anonymous

What an interesting question to come into... How you deal with those companies? Give up on them, lmfao. The government is included in those companies well, at least on the "don't use well-tested algorithms because they're public" so lul.

Anonymous

Alright! I got a pay rise which was nice. Still working on my OSCE honestly.

Anonymous

Driving me fucking insane.

Anonymous

How about yourself?

MechMK1

12:54

Lovely, lovely. I am the same as always, testing the same shitty webapps, writing my reports and just relaxing to some great music

I don't know if you've heard, but I've broken up with my girlfriend too

It happened quite a while ago, but I don't recall if we've spoken ever since

Anonymous

Hahaha, well the music helps with those shitty webapps and reports I'm sure :D I am doing a pen-test right now as it happens. Very borked VDI solution let me tell you.

Anonymous

Ah I didn't know that. Sorry to hear that.

MechMK1

VDI's...fuc

Anonymous

Hope you're okay :)

MechMK1

Yes, indeed I am. It was just...god, it was a toxic mess

I regret not breaking up sooner

Anonymous

12:57

Yeah, that sucks but at least you feel like it was the best decision :)

Anonymous

I'm about to break off my relationship with this stupid course lol

Anonymous

I feel so drained from this shit its really tough

MechMK1

It certainly was. It feels so heavenly to finally be able to be myself

Not dealing with constant jealousy

Or double standard

Fuck, it was a shitshow

I hope your OSCE will go fine though

Anonymous

That's good :) It's always hard so, well done.

Anonymous

Hahah, me too. I might delay it honestly I'm just not ready.

MechMK1

13:00

Perfectly fine to delay it, really

Yeah, it wasn't easy, but damn, I had to

Anonymous

Yeah tell my perfectionist brain that :D

MechMK1

It was either that or deepthroating a shotgun

Anonymous

Deep down I know it is fine to delat.

Anonymous

But I just have massive issues with believing in myself and being satisfied.

MechMK1

@J.J.Brain It's perfectly fine to delay it, really

Anonymous

13:01

Which is stupid really given my position in life but i cant help it

MechMK1

Good enough sometimes really is good enough.

Anonymous

Oh well, just gonna keep studying.

MechMK1

Certainly not a bad decision

Anonymous

I'm 20 soon.

Anonymous

Big scare.

Anonymous

13:02

That means I have been in this community for nearly 3 years, fucking hell.

Anonymous

And in cybersec overall for 4 years.

Anonymous

What is this shit.

MechMK1

Damn, 2 decades of JJ

Anonymous

Hahahahha, when you put it like that I feel EXTREMELY old.

MechMK1

I honestly have to think every time someone asks me how old I am

Because i really stopped giving a fuck after turning 18

I'm 26 now, I think

Anonymous

13:03

The only reason I know I'm 20 is because I have not achieved like 4 things that I planned to achieve by 20, not going to lie.

MechMK1

You know, no matter how bleak things look, there is always a solution.

Anonymous

Yeah the worrying thing is that things aren't bleak.

Anonymous

I'm just never content with my position really, I always want to improve and be more it's really not so healthy.

Anonymous

But I am learning to deal with it. That is for sure something that you MUST learn to accept as part of being an adult.

MechMK1

It's a state of mind. Feeling okay with yourself is a skill one needs to learn.

Anonymous

13:05

And 19 and 20 is the difference between teenager and adult so I need to get better at accepting it quicker because I'm 20 in a month lmfao

MechMK1

Pfffffffffff

Anonymous

At least I am not as bad as this VDI solution I've found a total of 23

Anonymous

ways to escape the environment

Anonymous

in 5 hours.

MechMK1

Nice!

But honestly, being "adult" is overrated

Last weekend I took mushrooms and played Unreal Tournament 2004 for 8 hours

I regret nothing

Conor Mancone

13:11

@MechMK1 In what way do you have to deal with them?

MechMK1

@ConorMancone I pentest their shit and make recommendations

Conor Mancone

Mainly: just ignore them. You're probably not going to convince anyone. If they hired you for pen test then provide your recommendations and be prepared for the fact that they will ignore everything you say

MechMK1

And then they try to be smug and try to explain me why my recommendations are shit and why AES-GCM-128 is actually really bad

Conor Mancone

If they want to pay you for your opinions and then ignore everything you say, that's kinda their own stupidity

MechMK1

So much wasted time, honestly

Conor Mancone

13:13

And it may hurt them more in the long run if they end up in legal trouble and it comes up that they paid for a pentest and then ignored recommendations which lead to breaches

When we did custom application development we would have people come by with terrible business ideas, convinced that it was going to be the next big thing

At the end of the day though we were just a hired gun, so while it was obviously more fun to work on ideas that were interesting and had a chance of actually being "good", there were plenty of times that we just said (to ourselves), this is a stupid idea but as long as you pay me, whatever

It's not always fun work, but sometimes it's enough to get paid

MechMK1

It's stuff like this that just makes me want to not give a fuck

Anonymous

@MechMK1 Hahahah i guess it is

Anonymous

im still a little kid

Anonymous

my eyes lit up when i got a powershell window via this vdi

Anonymous

then i did it 6 other ways and jumped for joy

MechMK1

13:24

Same, honestly. And it's those of us who remain kids who are really happy in this life

Because look around, what else is there?

Anonymous

Hahah

Rory Alsop

13:57

@MechMK1 and @J.J - I've got 2 decades of being in infosec... you think you feel old?

MechMK1

@RoryAlsop I'm not old, at least not yet

Just struggling with the things everyone struggles with in their 20s

Anonymous

@RoryAlsop Hahahahhaha

Rory Alsop

@J.J I'm assuming I'll hit my next big milestone birthday, but 2020 makes that more uncertain than I expected... I reckon it doesn't matter what age you are - currently many folks are struggling

Hopefully covid will be under some sort of control by next summer - I would like a party for my half century

Anonymous

Yeah.

MechMK1

I never really cared about birthday parties. Is that weird?

Rory Alsop

14:09

not really. I'm never that bothered

just figure I should make an effort next one

MechMK1

I mean, for decades or such I would understand

But to me it's always been like...not that important

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ThoriumBR

15:30

when JJ was born I was already programming... in basic and clipper (don't laugh)

I believe I had djgpp or turbo c installed on my 486 dx4 too, but without internet, without any friends knowing the language, and without any books, learning C as a first language by myself was not possible

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